The Case for Pakistan as a Civilizational State

[ThunderCat]

Natural identity of Pakistan is Indo-Aryan.

No it is Indo-Iranic of which Indo-Aryan is a subgoruping.

Pashtuns, Baloch, Wakhis are Iranic peoples, which is also a subgrouping of Indo-Iranic. Calling our national identity Indo-Aryan is alienating them.

 

[ThunderCat]

Historians and linguists are politically aligned. The evidence of Urdu being a camp language outweighs the notion that it was not.

Farsi - language of the Mughal Court
Urdu - language of the Mughal army

the article he linked argue otherwise. And "urdu" was a name coined by a poet in 1780s. Hardly 350 years in contrast to almost 1000 years of history of this language, beginning in late 1020s.

You are circulating myths that it's a "mixed language." It's an Indo-Aryan language that merely incorporates words from other languages, much like any other language.

It was not formed during the Mughal period.

 

[Master Chief]

it is one of the bars for historians

No it isn't. The script of a civilisation does not need to be deciphered in order to confirm the civilisational status. Plenty of confirmed civilisations existed without deciphered script.

 

[Master Chief]

Let me rephrase
Arabian peninsula has never been colonized by an European power

No I won't let you rephrase. Stick to your guns ma nigga. Double down on that.

 

[nahtanbob]

No it isn't. The script of a civilisation does not need to be deciphered in order to confirm the civilisational status. Plenty of confirmed civilisations existed without deciphered script.

confirmed civilizations worth discussing have some kind of historic continuity

 

[ThunderCat]

confirmed civilizations worth discussing have some kind of historic continuity

I guess now modern Egyptians need to be able to read ancient Egyptian to prove their heritage.

Bharati trolls and their funny fallacies.

 

[ThunderCat]

Pakistan did not capitalize on this and instead made claim on every invading force that for the most part plundered and looted the locals of this land.

You mean Islamic empires. Pakistanis would probably almost never claim the Sikh Empire let alone the British Empire.