Time to help Iran: Here's Why

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Iran has non-existent air force

Iran's air force acquisitions since the 1979 revolution is
small number of Chinese J-7
70+ Iraqi air force jets which were flown to Iran
maybe 2 squadrons of Sukhois
Unfortunately
 
Also time to tell China to get involved. They would regret the most if Iran falls. Plus Pakistan needs to develop ICBM and SLBM, it should be clear by now that we would be next. Produce more nuclear warheads and have some in deployed condition work on long range missiles for conventional strikes also. And increase the size of Air Force.
 
Or, it could be as simple as they don't have the range even with the additional tanks they now have.

Israel has limited air refueling capability. Those aircraft are not going to be at risk over Iranian airspace. Perhaps Iraqi but even then I'm skeptical that would allow the IAF the range needed to operate deep in Eastern Iran.

I wouldn't put it past the UAE to allow Israeli airforce to use the US bases there. They probably wouldn't even bother denying it.

If the US turns the FATF evil eye on them, it's curtains for UAE.
 
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Also time to tell China to get involved. They would regret the most if Iran falls.
oh yes definitely, Putin already got a handful and he benefits from the hot mess in ME which drives up oil price, so we can't ask much from Russia, Pakistan's only role is to keep Indians at bay and it has already done an outstanding job, we can't ask for more from Pakistan either. China on the other hand is the only county right now who can provide real assistance but choose not to, Xi will go down in history as the massive cuck that he is, very unfortunately
 
Buddy they already have air supremacy over Iran. I will avoid saying this on the Iranian thread because I don't want to make Iranians feel bad. I genuinely feel sorry for Iranian people.

But you need to stop listening to braindead IRGC fanboys claiming 6 F-35s shot down, they are just as delusional as Indians.

And if the west wanted to take over Pakistan's nuclear arsenal, they would've done it when the Taliban was 20 miles from Islamabad and 2008 Mumbai attacks happened.

The West doesn't need Israeli air supremacy to threaten our existence, the USN and USAF already de facto rule the world's skies except over China. Neither will Israeli-style strikes work on Pakistani nukes, that ship sailed decades ago.

And before some blue haired PTI activist comes and starts blabbing about Musharraf, WOT, junta and whiskey, just know that Iran fully supported the US invasion of Afghanistan
You're probably too young to remember this but NATO was deployed in Afghanistan between 2001-2021.

Pakistan was hosting US drones at its Shamsi Airbase and US Navy was also regularly flying fighters from its carriers over Pakistan during that time.
 
Also time to tell China to get involved. They would regret the most if Iran falls. Plus Pakistan needs to develop ICBM and SLBM, it should be clear by now that we would be next. Produce more nuclear warheads and have some in deployed condition work on long range missiles for conventional strikes also. And increase the size of Air Force.

In fact, neither Israel nor the US has enough ammunition reserves to support a long war, and Iran is not without a chance of victory.

But Iran has lost credibility with its previous betrayal of Hamas and the Arc of Resistance. If Iran wants aid, it must first be seen to be worthy of it.

If Iran thinks China has no other options, it will be disappointed.
 
Just a genuine question, not trying to troll. Isn’t the development or use of nuclear weapons considered haram in Islam, especially given their indiscriminate and mass-destructive nature?
 
Just a genuine question, not trying to troll. Isn’t the development or use of nuclear weapons considered haram in Islam, especially given their indiscriminate and mass-destructive nature?

As deterrence, I dont consider it as Haram in Islam.
 
In 1982 the domino plan was established by Zionists for the greater Middle East

Everyone said was a conspiracy theory and laughed

Now all the conspiracy theories have been proved correct over the last 40 years killing over 2 million Muslims

They called for destruction of nations like Libya , Yemen , Lebanon , Palestine , Iraq, Iran and in the end Pakistan

Israel wants to be able to fly anywhere in these nations bomb and return whenever it likes

All of the above are done and Iran is close for sure Pakistan is next

Rather be clever and intelligent these nations should have united but instead they were picked off one by one

Iran is now probably going to get nailed for sure

Guess who is next ? Pakistan

You can call it a conspiracy theory you can call whatever you like but it is now become fact

Facts don’t lie and just google Netanyahu interview from 1982

Pakistan will be easier to destroy because Pakistan has too many traitors and many ethnic and religious fault lines

They will probably take Pakistan down very easily easier than Iran

Ask the citizens of the above destroyed nations how they feel about the home of thier forefathers and ancestors they will tell you sad stories

I hope I don’t have to do that one day
 
we cannot do anything more for them as now, we are not in a position, this was a calculated attack, for us to help them in any form we will need the pressure from indian border to reduce which is not happening anytime soon. as long as india Pakistan border is hot there is nothing we can do for Iran other than what we are already doing.
 
Also time to tell China to get involved. They would regret the most if Iran falls. Plus Pakistan needs to develop ICBM and SLBM, it should be clear by now that we would be next. Produce more nuclear warheads and have some in deployed condition work on long range missiles for conventional strikes also. And increase the size of Air Force.

What Pakistan should do is to fix its economy and industry, Pakistan military is fined

Dont act like USSR that get defeated due to economic matter
 
Utterly false argument. Pakistan should do only what serves its OWN national interests, nothing more, and nothing less. Getting involved needlessly in somebody else's war never works out well.
He is clearly saying that Pakistan should act in what he believes is in Pakistan’s national interests, whether he is right or wrong is another matter.
 
Pakistan cannot afford to allow Israel to achieve air superiority over Tehran, as this would grant the Israeli Air Force unchallenged dominance over Iranian airspace, posing a direct and existential threat to Pakistan’s security. Given the proximity between Pakistan and Iran, unrestricted Israeli operations near Pakistan’s western border could embolden future aggression, especially considering Israel’s past attempts to strike Pakistan’s nuclear facilities in 1984 and 1998. If Israel establishes control over Iranian skies, it could not only threaten Pakistan directly but also collaborate with India, creating a dangerous two-front scenario. A militarily dominant Israel in the region could share intelligence, technology, and even coordinate strikes with India, leaving Pakistan vulnerable to simultaneous threats from the east and west. This strategic nightmare would undermine Pakistan’s deterrence capabilities and destabilize the entire region. Therefore, supporting Iran’s air defense is not just an act of solidarity but a vital necessity for Pakistan’s survival. To counter this looming danger, Pakistan must strengthen alliances with Turkey, China, and Russia to bolster Iran’s defenses and ensure that neither Israel nor India can exploit the situation. Failing to act now could lead to an irreversible shift in the regional balance of power, putting Pakistan at the mercy of hostile adversaries. Proactive measures—including joint military exercises, advanced air defense systems, and diplomatic coordination—are essential to prevent this dual threat from materializing.
Turkey’s NATO membership brings its own constraints and priorities, so it’s unlikely to deliver major support. A more effective strategy would be to encourage Turkish defense firms to invest in our defense industry and transfer key technologies, paving the way to true self-reliance.

Russia has shown itself to be unreliable failing to back India when called upon and now absent for Iran in its hour of need.

Our only reliable partner is China the sole non-Western power with genuine economic and military clout.

Although Pakistan may offer Iran support such as intelligence sharing, I doubt it would deploy forces deep into Iranian territory to defend its own interests. A wiser move would be for Pakistan to secure Afghanistan first, before Israeli and Western influence penetrates Iran and spills over into Afghan soil, creating an unwelcome 3 front conflict.
 
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