Trainer Aircraft of Pakistan Air Force

[Ak01]

TAI Hurkus seems like a good fit for us, and we can rely on Turks

its a project that can potentially be taken on alone, with some time.

 

[Yasser76]

If it's something that's going to be inducted in the hundreds, it's worth developing it locally.

We never had hundreds of basic trainers, no need for that many.

IAF has 74 PC-7s.

Turks (air force about same size as AF) had 50 Hurkus

 

[Toxic]

We never had hundreds of basic trainers, no need for that many.

IAF has 74 PC-7s.

Turks (air force about same size as AF) had 50 Hurkus

It's an intermediate trainer, something that can replace both T-38s and eventually even K-8s, then have something like the L-15 as a Lift

 

[Yasser76]

It's an intermediate trainer, something that can replace both T-38s and eventually even K-8s

T-38?

"Intermediate" has always been a strange one I think. Different air forces seem to have different approaches here

Some do

Primary-Basic-Advanced then straight to OCU

Some do

Primary-Basic - Straight to front line (often by air forces who do not have many high end fighters)

Some do

Primary-Basic-Intermediate-LIFT (Or Fighter conversion as it was once called)


Unsure what the right thing is for PAF. As transport/helicopter/VIP part of PAF is very small vis a vis other air forces (and Pak Army does chopper training for PN/PAF anyway)

Basically our entire training system is designed to produce fighter pilots, while other systems have to produce also multi-engined and chopper pilots on a large scale. That makes PAF some what unique (only other country like this is maybe Israel, Scandics and maybe Taiwan).

 

[Toxic]

T-38?

"Intermediate" has always been a strange one I think. Different air forces seem to have different approaches here

Some do

Primary-Basic-Advanced then straight to OCU

Some do

Primary-Basic - Straight to front line (often by air forces who do not have many high end fighters)

Some do

Primary-Basic-Intermediate-LIFT (Or Fighter conversion as it was once called)


Unsure what the right thing is for PAF. As transport/helicopter/VIP part of PAF is very small vis a vis other air forces (and Pak Army does chopper training for PN/PAF anyway)

Basically our entire training system is designed to produce fighter pilots, while other systems have to produce also multi-engined and chopper pilots on a large scale. That makes PAF some what unique (only other country like this is maybe Israel, Scandics and maybe Taiwan).

Sorry I meant the T-37.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

Flight Lieutenant Abid Ali Shah Shaheed During His FCU Days.

Flight Lieutenant Abid Ali Shah Shaheed Tamgha-e-Basalat was born on 26th January 1966, Graduated from PAF Academy on 06th November 1986, Bagged Best Over All Performance Shield at PAF base Mianwali at No.1 Fighter Conversion Unit-1987, Then had
1st Posting To Masroor Air Base in No.8 Sqn.

Qualified First MISTRAL Weapon system, Also Operational Use of AM 39 Weapon System on Mirage-VPA3, On Jan 29 1992 On a Training Mission His Mirage Developed fault near Hub and Crashed, what we heard was his Ejection system failed and Abid Tried to Bring his plane back to His Base But didn't Succeed. Only Allah Pak Knows Best what Actually Happend.

May Allah Pak Elevate His Ranks In Jannah.

 

[ghazi52]

T-33

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Fatman17]

Turkish Super Mushshak Deal​

1. Aviation Features
2. Turkish Super Mushshak Deal

15th December 2016
Feature


TURKEY HAS signed a Memorandum of Understanding to buy 52 Super Mushshak basic training aircraft. Pakistan’s Minister for Defence Production, Rana Tanveer Hussain, announced the MoU at the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) 2016 in Karachi on November 22. Deliveries will begin eight months after the final contract is signed.

The deal had been expected for some time – plans were confirmed on July 15 by the Pakistan Ministry of Defence Production. They will have glass cockpits and improved environmental control systems.

The aircraft will be flown by the Turkish Air Force’s 123 Filo at Kaklic Air Base, Izmir. They will replace the current fleet of SF260TD trainers, which had entered service in the mid-1990s.

Source: key aero​

Does anyone have a update on this please. I know atleast between 6-12 examples were delivered.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Does anyone have a update on this please. I know atleast between 6-12 examples were delivered.

By December 2025, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) completed the delivery of all 52 MFI-395 Super Mushshak basic trainer aircraft ordered by Türkiye in 2016 during the IDEAS Defence Fair in Karachi.

idk what went wrong , took us 10 years to deliver 52 basic training aircraft

scramble.nl