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Hamas has not done any terrorism. They are fighting against a colonialist occupier.

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That will sound like a weird ideology for the world.

As no country nor a nation can be occupied if they hadn't exist yet before the occupation (48).
 
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Why would Israel did killing and oppression of Palestinian, if she was not threatened, terrorized by the Palestinians?

Have you heard about numerous intifada attacks in WB before that?
Have you heard about the Nakba ? It was the organized terrorizing, killing and expulsion of Palestinians in 1948 by Jewish militias so that they could carve out a Jewish majority state in Palestine. The Israelis didnt stop at the Naqba, they kept going.



You blame Palestinians for defending their land, lives and futures. You have been deceived by Zionist propaganda.
 
Have you heard about the Nakba ? It was the organized terrorizing, killing and expulsion of Palestinians in 1948 by Jewish militias so that they could carve out a Jewish majority state in Palestine. The Israelis didnt stop at the Naqba, they kept going.



You blame Palestinians for defending their land, lives and futures. You have been deceived by Zionist propaganda.

Whats your point with the Nakba?

Should the world always only buy Palestinian/Arab's narrative?

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Whats your point with the Nakba?

Should the world always only buy Palestinian/Arab's narrative?

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My point with the Nakba is that Palestinians have been under attack ever since the European Jews arrived in the region after Balfour declaration of 1919. The Jews reject any Palestinian identity or ownership of the land and instead claim God gave them everything. This is not "narrative", its facts and history.

The Nakba happened less than 30 years after the arrival of these european jews who immediately began organizing militias.
 
My point with the Nakba is that Palestinians have been under attack ever since the European Jews arrived in the region after Balfour declaration of 1919. The Jews reject any Palestinian identity or ownership of the land and instead claim God gave them everything. This is not "narrative", its facts and history.

The Nakba happened less than 30 years after the arrival of these european jews who immediately began organizing militias.


That is not true; that is typical "playing victim" claim from palestine supporter like usual.

On the contrary, it was jews palestinian who faced several persecution in Palestine territory, not arab palestinian. There were riots and progrom against jews before the independence of Israel.

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That is not true; that is typical "playing victim" claim from palestine supporter like usual.

On the contrary, it was jews palestinian who faced several persecution in Palestine territory, not arab palestinian. There were riots and progrom against jews before the independence of Israel.

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Riots happened because British overlords were allowing unlimited jewish immigration, helping them seize land and build an economy, organize politically and train militias, while denying Palestinians all this. No people like being colonized by foreigners.

I would recommend you read this book

 
Riots happened because British overlords were allowing unlimited jewish immigration, helping them seize land and build an economy, organize politically and train militias, while denying Palestinians all this. No people like being colonized by foreigners.

I would recommend you read this book



The concern of Palestinian with the influx of jews at that time was fully understood, the same as the concern of Jews to migrate to safer place palestine territory as their sanctuary was fully understood as well.

But what happen already happened; NOW the Israel territory has been populated by Israel citizen (with 70% jews and 30% arabs), not by arab Palestinian anymore nor by Palestine citizen. So nobody can claim that land as their ownerships except Israel citizen themself.

Just like native Indian can't claim US land as theirs anymore, nor aborigin claim Australia as theirs anymore, or just like ainu claim Japan territory as theirs anymore, or malay can't claim Singapore as theirs anymore.

It is the human right principle.
 
That will sound like a weird ideology for the world.

As no country nor a nation can be occupied if they hadn't exist yet before the occupation (48).
There are many countries in Southern Europe that did not exist before First World War and were part of Ottoman and Austrian-Hungarian empires. Even disintegration of Yugoslavia has created new countries.
 
The concern of Palestinian with the influx of jews at that time was fully understood, the same as the concern of Jews to migrate to safer place palestine territory as their sanctuary was fully understood as well.

But what happen already happened; NOW the Israel territory has been populated by Israel citizen (with 70% jews and 30% arabs), not by arab Palestinian anymore nor by Palestine citizen. So nobody can claim that land as their ownerships except Israel citizen themself.

Just like native Indian can't claim US land as theirs anymore, nor aborigin claim Australia as theirs anymore, or just like ainu claim Japan territory as theirs anymore, or malay can't claim Singapore as theirs anymore.

It is the human right principle.
Palestine was never a sanctuary for foreign Jews. It is an ancient land where many people have lived throughout history and was was well settled by Palestinians in modern times, but was portrayed falsely by the Zionist movement in 18th centrury Europe as a "land without a people for a people without a land".

Israel does not allow Palestinians it kicked out in 1948 and 1967 the right to come back to their homes and lands. It instead seized their lands and homes and gave them to Jews all over the world. Israel also continues to kill and expel more Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. Only in the minds of Zionists are these "human rights principles".

We have gone off topic. My objective was to show the neutral readers that Palestinians are not terrorists or bad people here but the true victims of Zionist violence and terror.
 
There are many countries in Southern Europe that did not exist before First World War and were part of Ottoman and Austrian-Hungarian empires. Even disintegration of Yugoslavia has created new countries.

There were nations in that territory before Ottoman occupied that territory.

After Ottoman expelled, they were entitled to determine their own nation.
 
Cancel culture is a tactic as part of the culture war. The left went too far and the electorate pushed back. Trump and MAGA will push their agenda as far as they take it and many are aware that now is a now or never moment to push, and accept the pendulum will swing back, as fundamentally younger people are socially liberal, especially women, as defined by that new poll on goals (what people define as success).

Roe vs. Wade was one example.

All this culture war stuff will advance or recede on the back of how the economy is doing over the next 12 months. Hysteria will die down if the economy faults and people have real priorities to focus back upon. 9/11 hysteria didn’t really fully die down till the 2008 Great Recession.
I think we may be in a special phase where a media invention so grips the minds of the people that whatever it says is accepted as the truth. It happened once before with radio , then television, now its social media. The disinformation/propaganda machine that the right-wing has built is truly something and is able to fool the people into focusing on culture war only, even at the cost of their own economic well being and civil rights. I don't know how long its omnipotence will last, maybe another 7 to 10 years.
 
Palestine was never a sanctuary for foreign Jews. It is an ancient land where many people have lived throughout history and was was well settled by Palestinians in modern times, but was portrayed falsely by the Zionist movement in 18th centrury Europe as a "land without a people for a people without a land".

It was. Jews did'nt move there by force but by their own willingness in order to flee from persecution.

Demography changed along the time.

There was time when arab population far exceed jews population there; but there was time jews population compete with arab population there. They were all Palestinian, either jews and arabs.

Israel does not allow Palestinians it kicked out in 1948 and 1967 the right to come back to their homes and lands. It instead seized their lands and homes and gave them to Jews all over the world. Israel also continues to kill and expel more Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. Only in the minds of Zionists are these "human rights principles".

We have gone off topic. My objective was to show the neutral readers that Palestinians are not terrorists or bad people here but the true victims of Zionist violence and terror.

It is another false claim by Palestinian.

There was barely arab palestinian's property seized by jews palestinian; the jews purchased many private properties from arab palestinian. The rest like desert, lake, mountains, river, etc was public land governed by authority (under british mandate)

Purchase = legal, the new owner pay to the prior owner by willingness, not robbery.


Therefore it was a normal and legal demography dynamic, not by force unlike what happened during conquest by power in the past (Ottoman, etc).
 
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Going to disagree. When Fox News canceled Tucker Carlson, the left cheered loudly. When Jimmy Kimmel said the unvaxxed should just die, the left cheered. Rolling Stone once had a cover article stating why cancel culture is good for a democracy.

Now that the right has finally started to wake up and play the left's game by the rules they (the left) established, they immediately play the victim card.
Individuals acting in a personal capacity, attempting to convince the public to boycott or ‘cancel’ someone or something, is far different from the State using its influence and power to repress speech and individuals.

When did the ‘Left’ use the FCC to threaten broadcasters?

When did a Democratic President threaten reporters asking difficult questions?

What has become obvious in all of this is that not only is the current Republican party and its supporters a cesspool of corrupt racists and degenerates supporting genocide and pedophilia, but also the biggest bunch of whiny snowflakes on the planet.
 
Which path of peace when israeli closed their entire Gaza Strip like a fortress??.

Not only they closed Gaza like a cage.
They also forbbiden concrete importation (just to keep them basically without constructive capability). Also Israel disconnected Gaza from fresh wáter grid (fortunately Egypt and other countries paid them desalinization plants). And finally they disconnected from electricity grid also.

All this shit was well before 7 October.

From 7 October to right now 1000 civilians have been murdered also in West Bank. Houses raided and destroyed. Even the cameraman of the last Óscar have been killed by settlers.!!!! They're expelling people, building new settlements and also closing them in cages. Whenever a illuminated fanatic group appears and make another killing spree this time in West Bank It will be also a Israelí responsability. It was a place virtually free of Hamás personnel.

So, let me tell you again. When militiamen are fighting in occupied territories they're not terrorists, they're Resistance. Like french Resistance killing women and civilians cooperative with nazis. The same.

I ignored this moron long ago. Plays the victim, blames the victim.

Pretends Israel wants peace, when in reality Israel by nature wants more land. It's nature is a a Jewish supremacist state on land populated by non-jews. Violence, terrorism, genocide is therefore inevitable.

They then have to change reality to fit their narrative and hasbarra. Israel is a cancer and chemotherapy, despite all the side effects, is the only rational conclusion.
 
It was. Jews did'nt move there by force but by their own willingness in order to flee from persecution.

Demography changed along the time.

There was time when arab population far exceed jews population there; but there was time jews population compete with arab population there. They were all Palestinian, either jews and arabs.



It is another false claim by Palestinian.

There was barely arab palestinian's property seized by jews palestinian; the jews purchased many private properties from arab palestinian. The rest like desert, lake, mountains, river, etc was public land governed by authority (under british mandate)

Purchase = legal, the new owner pay to the prior owner by willingness, not robbery.


Therefore it was a normal and legal demography dynamic, not by force unlike what happened during conquest by power in the past (Ottoman, etc).
Few properties were bought, mostly in the Ottoman era, the land during British mandate was seized from Palestinians. This process has continued to this day as we see in Gaza and West Bank, Israelis continue to attack Palestinians and seize their lands. Israel also refuses Palestinian refugees from coming back to their homes and lands. It's why the Palestinians are refugees in the first place.

You sound identical to Israelis that I have encountered before, same lies, same fake history , same obfuscation and same justifications for violence and land theft. Please update your flags.
 

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