Trump said five Indian Jets were shot down

[Master Chief]

there there. don't get too worried.
Trump will help you as long as Pak keeps paying his ransom via bitcoins.

Has Modi responded yet to Trump's allegations?

 

[Yasser76]

Has Modi responded yet to Trump's allegations?

No, funny, he loves giving speeches punching the air with his fists so much. Hard to do when Trump has his fist up Modis .....

 

[Taimoor]

Scratching pretty low if Trump is your evidence.
Understandable. Obviously Paks here haven't gotten over their slave mentality yet.

Our evidence is the IAF wreckage pics and videos made by Indian citizens themselves and posting on their social media. From horse mouth as they say.

Not sure what's at play here between Modi and his Du-Lund pharrand. You better ask him why he is humiliating your nation.

 

[Yasser76]

Our evidence is the IAF wreckage pics and videos made by Indian citizens themselves and posting on their social media. From horse mouth as they say.

Not sure what's at play here between Modi and his Du-Lund pharrand. You better ask him why he is humiliating your nation.

With every passing day the silence gets defening. If the strikes acheived their objectives and "losses do not matter"

Why the silence?

One can only speculate that the drubbing was much worse then assumed. If it was not Modi and CDS would have given us the numbers by now. Thats what makes me think (along with Alan Warns statements) that kills are actually 7 or 7 plus....

 

[Baibers_1260]

Whatever dude. Unlike you, I am not obsessed with Sanskrit and the Indian Air Force.

Strange response from a patriotic Indian who doesn't understand the motto of his own country's air force.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Scratching pretty low if Trump is your evidence.
Understandable. Obviously Paks here haven't gotten over their slave mentality yet.

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[Baibers_1260]

Where did you think Trump got the 5 figure came from?

A) Watching Pakistan TV ?

B) trolling PDF ?

C) CIA's military grade Intel briefings?


Pick one.

More important, how come President Trump didn't mention "destruction of air bases and terrorists killed " without naming the country in the same breath. Also, yet no official contradiction from India about the manner in which the ceasefire was negotiated.

 

[krash]

Pak mil is not corrupt. But they have to do underhanded tactics to get access to the funds they need to develop. If Pak had been a proper democracy from the beginning its mil would be the same as India and other 3rd world countries.

There is some merit to your latter statement. However, the Pakistani military is as corrupt as the rest of the nation. Just because most of it happens not at the detriment of military capability does not make it better.

 

[Pradotlc]

True, my point was their focus on fighter jet purchases that get news headlines rather then force enablers.

EW/AEW/Refullers they are so so so woefully short

Integration seems non existent, not just between services but within the IAF itself.
Inter service rivalry also adds to the chaotic state of affairs (Both Army and IAF demanded they have exactly the same Apache choppers and US Predators for the same tasks but operated seperately)

IAF is cursed with caste system...

 

[Pradotlc]

More important, how come President Trump didn't mention "destruction of air bases and terrorists killed " without naming the country in the same breath. Also, yet no official contradiction from India about the manner in which the ceasefire was negotiated.

jokes aside every body knows what happened except the indian janta.... ignorant and stupid to the max

Trump just stated obvious ... ie indian planes were getting knocked from the sky and their bases were getting pounded forcing them to seek a ceasefire.


the rest is just noise.

 

[Pradotlc]

This is the sate of their denial.

Arnub Goswami v the CIA....

it happens when they think they are "superior" .... they cant accept it. even though deep down inside they know they got their arses kicked.

 

[Yasser76]

IAF is cursed with caste system...

To be fair many are cursed with same problem, either by budgets or culture they just focus on fighters.

In the case of smaller NATO countries it is not too bad. Czechia, Hungry, Belgium, Denmark can all just but small pools of fighter but they have huge pool of US and NATO assets like C-17s, AWACS, Rufuellers tec.

A great example of a country that gets this right and is this able to deliver more punch then its pure fighter size represents is Australia

Only 100 odd fighters (72 F-35s and 24 F-18Fs) but backed up by

6 E-7 AEW
12 EA-18G Growlers - SEAD/Jamming
7 A330 Refuellers
4 Gulfstram ELINT
12 P-8 LRMPA
14 medium/arge UAV/UCAV

Now look at India

500 odd fighters

5 AEW (Phalcon and Netra)
2 Bombardier ELINT
6 Refuellers (IL-76)
12 P-8 LRMPA (Navy)
20 medium/large UAV/UCAV


Can you see how lob sided this is and how it effects the overall fighter force in terms of support? 1 Aussie fighter has much more support and is this much more effective then 1 similar IAF fighter

PAF has around 350 fighters

10 AEW
4 refuellers
3 Falcon 20 - EW/Jamming
1 Bombardier - EW/Jamming
Around 100 medium/large UAV/UCAV
10 P-3C/ATR LRMPA

 

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Is this real news!?

 

[Yasser76]

This whole thing is blowing up in Modis face

Jagdeep Dhankar: Indian vice president's resignation sparks political speculation

In an unexpected turn of events, Dhankar submitted his resignation to the president on Monday.

www.bbc.co.uk