Trump says India will buy oil from Venezuela instead of Iran

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Your quote on Seattle
Out of context. I was referring to the other aerospace hubs . The conversation switched to Dallas because Dallas is largely aerospace, oil and equipment. So comparing prosperity and lifestyle of a population based on aerospace, defense. machinery and oil in Dallas with Silicon Valley was a much fairer evaluation.
For your education:
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Is that why the British Foreign secretary turned up and the Defence Minster got fired right in the midst of the Operation Brasstacks and Mandal friendly V.P, Singh was suddenly appointed without even a cabinet meeting or any cabinet reshuffle?

Ram ram ji,

You seem to be misinformed about the situation in India in 1987. The Defense portfolio was held by Shri Rajiv Gandhi, who , as PM obviously didn't fire himself. The reason for appointing Raja Saheb, who fancied himself as Mr Clean, was to move him out of the Finance Ministry, where he had opened corruption investigations implicating those close to PM Saheb. Of course, that didn't deter Raja Saheb and the rest is history. Also , at that time, Raja Saheb was still a darling of the upper castes. He didn't discover the Mandal report until he became the victim of political machinations by Chandrashekhar ji and Tau Devi Lal and decided to martyr his PMship to the Mandal cause.

Given its logistics and geography the ISI's Khalistan operation was never intended to be a reality. It was intended to be a payback for Bangladesh. Overall the results were quite satisfactory:
Let's take a look.
  1. A deep and permanent divide amongst Hindus and Sikhs, who as the "sword of the Hindus" constituted 30% of the Indian Armed Forces . Compromising the sympathy and loyalty of the population of a crucial enemy border state just a few dozen kilometers from Pakistan's second largest city was a brilliant move. Only moral support was given to the Khalistan movement but it was sufficient for the purpose. The mistakes were all done by Mrs. Gandhi herself.
  2. The significant moment was the assassination of Shrimati Indira Gandhi which eliminated the last potent secular threat to Pakistan . We dresd a united secular India which we faced in 1971 when we were unable to rally our population behind a religious passion because those whom we were fighting were both Indian Hindus and Bengal Muslims, and Kashmir was oddly quiet . We are looking forward to Yogi Adityanath becoming the Prime Minister of India. The clear battle lines would be psychologically easier to define. With all that said, we still Mrs. Indira Gandhi, because in a moment of sanity she did sign the Simla Accord which gave Pakistan some breathing room .
  3. There were some "side shows" so to speak such as significant mutinies in the Indian Army, assassinations of senior army officers including the ex-newly retired Chief of Army Staff. The side-shows included multiple hijackings of aircraft and horrific sabotage of a packed jumbo jet over the Atlantic.
  4. The assassination of Indira Gandhi resulted in near nationwide curfew and army called in to curb the horrific mass revenge lynching of Sikhs in a death toll never accurately estimated.

You are right that the Khalistan problem was a creation of Mrs Gandhi and her kitchen cabinet. However, you are wrong that it created a permanent divide between Hindus and Sikhs. The alliance of the Hindu and Sikh religion-minded parties was strengthened and the partnership with the Akali Dal was the stepping stone to BJP ultimately forming the government in Delhi. A figment of the Khalistan movement still exists, but it mostly confined to small pockets of the diaspora. The Silkhs in India have moved on.
The Baluch insurgency is a festering wound and so is the TTP. terror. But such insurgencies and terror attacks have been going on for a long time. We have so far not had a Kanishk Boeing 747 explode in mid-air over the Atlantic, nor three quarters of the country under curfew to stem a holocaust that took out an unknown number (unofficial estimates 8,000–17,000 ) killed . in two days. We haven't lost a Prime Minister, and an ex-army chief yet, and no units of the Pakistani Army have mutinied... Yet,
RAW needs to do a better job in Baluchistan.
Balochistan is a very different situation from Bangladesh, Kashmir or Khalistan. There is no geographical continuity with India and Iran has it's own Baloch insurgency and unsympathetic to the BLA. Also, with FATF and the West a lot more concerned about global terrorism after their cities were attacked, providing material support is far more difficult. I think you are holding RAW to too high a standard. It is unreasonable to expect a similar outcome as in Bangladesh, unless the West actively supports an independent Baloch state carved out from Pakistan and Iran.
 
Will India be paying market prices for Venezuelan oil ? It was getting Russian oil at a huge discount.
 
Will India be paying market prices for Venezuelan oil ? It was getting Russian oil at a huge discount.
Modi has sent the file on the subject to some of the posters here from India. It is on its way. We would be able to tell you once the file reaches us.
Till then, let’s assume that it would be definitely more expensive than the Russian oil. After all it was heavily discounted and that party is over.
 
Will India be paying market prices for Venezuelan oil ? It was getting Russian oil at a huge discount.
Ram ram ji,

The discount had shrunk quite a lot, especially if you look at the all-in cost, since arranging transportation was becoming increasingly expensive due to sanctions. Before the war in Ukraine started, India bought virtually zero Russian oil. It was a baniya decision to buy and a baniya decision to reduce purchases. Of course, it will take time to recalibrate refineries to process a different grade.

As for Venezuelan oil, it seems more of posturing than anything. There is not enough being pumped out at present to replace Russian output, and it would be a lot more economical to process whatever little is produced in the Americas.
 
@RamBharose ji
जय सियाराम 🙏🏻 ( or should I say जय श्रीराम )

Thanks for your response.

Please comment on my following statement:
You omitted to this in your response,

" We are looking forward to Yogi Adityanathji, becoming the Prime Minister of India. The clear battle lines would be psychologically easier to define. With all that said, we still respect Mrs. Indira Gandhi, because in a moment of sanity she did sign the Simla Accord which gave Pakistan some breathing room "

P.S. Could you let me know what is the standard official greeting in India . I am not so well informed on this, and I don't intend to offend,
Is the greeting. नमस्कार, or नमस्ते, or जय श्रीराम, or राधे राधे ?

Thanks
 
@RamBharose ji
जय सियाराम 🙏🏻 ( or should I say जय श्रीराम )

Thanks for your response.

Please comment on my following statement:
You omitted to this in your response,

" We are looking forward to Yogi Adityanathji, becoming the Prime Minister of India. The clear battle lines would be psychologically easier to define. With all that said, we still respect Mrs. Indira Gandhi, because in a moment of sanity she did sign the Simla Accord which gave Pakistan some breathing room "

P.S. Could you let me know what is the standard official greeting in India . I am not so well informed on this, and I don't intend to offend,
Is the greeting. नमस्कार, or नमस्ते, or जय श्रीराम, or राधे राधे ?

Thanks
Baibers_1260 ji,

I respect and welcome your wishes about Yogi Maharaj becoming the PM and I can understand your respect for Mrs Gandhi, though I believe you are overestimating the extent to which altruism was a factor behind her decision to sign the Simla Agreement on the terms that it was signed. Firstly, India was a very poor country then and continuing military operations in West Pakistan after the declared aims of the war were accomplished would have risked further economic sanctions from the West and the Gulf countries which would have crushed the economy. Secondly, Pakistan continued to field a formidable military in the West that would have enjoyed support from the people and other neighboring countries, and, once the Himalayan snows melted, India would have been facing two active fronts. Thirdly, Mrs Gandhi probably believed that Bhutto Sahab would be easier to manage and less hostile than a military government.

As for Yogi ji, it is true that he he is the Mahant of the Gorakhnath Math, which has long been a seat of Hindutva politics and Muslims, especially, did have misgivings when he became CM of UP. However, he has proved to be an extremely capable and fair administrator in a state with a long history of corruption and poor governance, and has managed to win over at least some sections of the Muslim voters, apart from some Shia voters who had started supporting the BJP even earlier. In that respect, he is not very different from Modi ji. I can understand that because of the way he dresses and his background as a monk, some people may expect him to be a more extremist and cruder version of Modi ji, but I think they will end up being surprised.

There is no standard greeting in India, even in the region I come from. Jai shri ram may be considered more provocative than ram ram by those who do not believe in Shri Ram, so I prefer to avoid it with those who are not Ram bhakts. Radhe radhe is more common with devotees of Shri Krishna. Where I come from, namaste and the even more formal namaskar are also acceptable, but considered slightly more aloof , formal and elitist. Salaam alaikum , sat sri akal and hello or hi are also perfecting acceptable and common and should not offend any reasonable person.
 
However, he ( Yogi Adityanathji ) has proved to be an extremely capable and fair administrator in a state with a long history of corruption and poor governance, and has managed to win over at least some sections of the Muslim voters, apart from some Shia voters who had started supporting the BJP even earlier. In that respect, he is not very different from Modi ji. I can understand that because of the way he dresses and his background as a monk, some people may expect him to be a more extremist and cruder version of Modi ji, but I think they will end up being surprised.
"He ( Yogi Adityanathji) has managed to win over at least some sections of the Muslim voters, apart from some Shia voters who had started supporting the BJP even earlier"
Why does Yogiji want to " win over some sections of Muslim voters" ? Does he need Muslim vote banks to win?

Yogi's Yuva Vahini supporters want to "rapp" female Muslim corpses after digging them out of their graves. A statement which Yogi Adityanathji applauded.


Is there any data base as to how many dead female corpses were "rapped" under good governance?

" In that respect, he (Yogi Adityanathji) is not very different from Modi ji. I can understand that because of the way he dresses and his background as a monk, some people (?) may expect him to be a more extremist (?) and cruder version of Modi ji, but I think they will end up being surprised."

Which "people " are you referring to ? I can only give you an opinion from the Pakistani viewpoint on India's future foreign and military policy towards Pakistan under a Yogi Adityanath regime.
.I doubt if Pakistanis ( or Bangladeshis for that matter) are going to be surprised at Yogi Adityanathji's policy towards their nation when he takes over power from Modiji. Not much is expected to change nor should it.
Yogiji's bulldozers are unlikely to cross over into Pakistan or Bangladesh to demolish all the mosques there. There too many anti-tank crews manning anti-tank guided missiles. For the near future both Bangladeshis and Pakistanis will eat exactly what they want, regardless of what Yogi Adityanathji wants them to eat . Of course Yogi Adityanath will try "other means " such as Brahmos attacks to demolish mosques and this is expected. No surprises. An inevitable response by "whatever means" will be given .
 
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There is no standard greeting in India, even in the region I come from. Jai shri ram may be considered more provocative than ram ram by those who do not believe in Shri Ram, so I prefer to avoid it with those who are not Ram bhakts. Radhe radhe is more common with devotees of Shri Krishna. Where I come from, namaste and the even more formal namaskar are also acceptable, but considered slightly more aloof , formal and elitist. Salaam alaikum , sat sri akal and hello or hi are also perfecting acceptable and common and should not offend any reasonable person.
Whatever... You prefer राम राम to जय हिन्द, or जय श्री राम ।, we will keep it that way..

We can only speak for Pakistanis on this forum .
Pakistanis are not offended with your mode of greeting though most don't understand and therefore can't reciprocate . You can also greet with अलख निरंजन, जय महाकाल, हर हर महादेव, बजरंग बली की जय if you wish. No one will be offended.
I asked just for information. Apparently you don't have a
standard greeting, which is what I thought. What is puzzling is why on 15th August your Prime Minister greets his audience with "जय हिन्द when giving a speech from the ramparts of the Red Fort in Delhi. But that is your culture and identity as a sovereign nation, and we as Pakistanis can be curious but are not entitled to comment.
 
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Coming back to the topic.
@Musings @RamBharose

we’ll do whatever gets us more money, more jobs, and more growth.
That includes buying Russian oil, bargaining hard on tariffs, hedging risks, and giving in if enough carrots are dangled. We’re a baniya nation, ideology comes after the balance sheet

Fantastic article by Yashraj Sharma
Read the full article here ( Link)

Sumit Pokharna, vice president at Kotak Securities:
“If they( India ) move to higher-costing (oil) , like the US or Venezuela, then raw material cost would increase, and that would squeeze their margins,” he told Al Jazeera. “If it goes beyond control, they may have to pass the excess onto consumers"

ALJAZEERA

Can India switch from Russian to Venezuelan oil, as Trump wants?​

Yashraj Sharma
Wed, February 4, 2026 at 10:34 AM EST

New Delhi, India – When US President Donald Trump announced a trade dealwith India on Monday this week, he declared that New Delhi would pivot away from Russian energy as part of the agreement.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Trump said, had promised to stop buying Russian oil, and instead buy crude from the United States and from Venezuela, whose president, Nicolas Maduro, was abducted by US special forces in early January. Since then, the US has effectively taken control of Venezuela’s mammoth oil industry.

In return, Trump dialled down trade tariffs on Indian goods from an overall 50 percent to just 18 percent. Half of that 50 percent tariff was levied last year as punishment for India buying Russian oil, which the White House maintains is financing Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine.

But since Monday, India has not publicly confirmed that it has committed to either ceasing its purchase of Russian oil or embracing Venezuelan crude, analysts note. Dmitry Peskov, a Kremlin spokesperson, told reporters on Tuesday that Russia had received no indication of this from India, either.

And switching from Russian to Venezuelan oil will be far from straightforward. A cocktail of other factors – shocks to the energy market, costs, geography, and the characteristics of different kinds of oil – will complicate New Delhi’s decisions about its sourcing of oil, they say.

So, can India really dump Russian oil? And can Venezuelan crude replace it?

What is Trump’s plan?​

Trump has been pressuring India to stop buying Russian oil for months. After Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, the US and European Union placed an oil price cap on Russian crude in a bid to limit Russia’s ability to finance the war.



As a result, other countries including India began buying large quantities of cheap Russian oil. India, which before the war sourced only 2.5 percent of its oil from Russia, became the second-largest consumer of Russian oil after China. It currently sources around 30 percent of its oil from Russia.

Last year, Trump doubled trade tariffs on Indian goods from 25 percent to 50 percent as punishment for this. Later in the year, Trump also imposed sanctions on Russia’s two biggest oil companies – and threatened secondary sanctions against countries and entities that trade with these firms.

Since the abduction of Maduro by US forces in early January, Trump has effectively taken over the Venezuelan oil sector, controlling sales cash flows.

Venezuela also has the largest proven oil reserves in the world, estimated at 303 billion barrels, more than five times larger than those of the US, the world’s largest oil producer.

But while getting India to buy Venezuelan oil makes sense from the US’s perspective, analysts say this could be operationally messy.

How much oil does India import from Russia?​

India currently imports nearly 1.1 million barrels per day (bpd) of Russian crude, according to analytics company Kpler. Under Trump’s mounting pressure, that is lower than the average 1.21 million bpd in December 2025 and more than 2 million bpd in mid-2025.

One barrel is equivalent to 159 litres (42 gallons) of crude oil. Once refined, a barrel typically produces about 73 litres (19 gallons) of petrol for a car. Oil is also refined to produce a wide variety of products, from jet fuel to household items including plastics and even lotions.

Has India stopped Russian oil purchases?​

India has reduced the amount of oil it buys from Russia over the past year, but it has not stopped buying it altogether.



Under increasing pressure from Trump, last August, Indian officials called out the “hypocrisy” of the US and EU pressuring New Delhi to back off from Russian crude.


“In fact, India began importing from Russia because traditional supplies were diverted to Europe after the outbreak of the conflict,” Randhir Jaiswal, India’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson, said then. He added that India’s decision to import Russian oil was “meant to ensure predictable and affordable energy costs to the Indian consumer”.

Despite this, Indian refiners, currently the second-largest group of buyers of Russian oil after China, are reportedly winding up their purchases after clearing current scheduled orders.

Major refiners like Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd (HPCL), Mangalore Refinery and Petrochemicals Ltd (MRPL), and HPCL-Mittal Energy Ltd (HMEL) halted purchasing from Russia following the US sanctions against Russian oil producers last year.
Other players like Indian Oil Corporation (IOC), Bharat Petroleum Corporation, and Reliance Industries will soon stop their purchases.

What happens if India suddenly stops buying Russian oil?​

Even if India wanted to stop importing Russian oil altogether, analysts argue it would be extremely costly to do so.

In September last year, India’s oil and petroleum minister, Hardeep Singh Puri, told reporters that it would also sharply push up energy prices and fuel inflation. “The world will face serious consequences if the supplies are disrupted. The world can’t afford to keep Russia off the oil market,” Puri said.

Analysts tend to agree. “A complete cessation of Indian purchases of Russian oil would be a major disruption. An immediate halt would spike global prices and threaten India’s economic growth,” said George Voloshin, an independent energy analyst based in Paris.



Russian oil would likely be diverted more heavily towards China and into “shadow” fleets of tankers that deliver sanctioned oil secretly by flying false flags and switching off location equipment, Voloshin told Al Jazeera. “Mainstream tanker demand would shift toward the Atlantic Basin, most likely increasing global freight rates as a result,” he noted.

Sumit Pokharna, vice president at Kotak Securities, noted that Indian refineries have reported robust margins in the last two years, majorly benefitting from the discounted Russian crude.

“If they move to higher-costing, like the US or Venezuela, then raw material cost would increase, and that would squeeze their margins,” he told Al Jazeera. “If it goes beyond control, they may have to pass the excess onto consumers.”

Can India stop buying Russian oil altogether?​

It may not be able to. One of India’s two private refiners, Nayara Energy, is majority-Russian-owned and under heavy Western sanctions. The Russian energy firm Rosneft holds a 49.13 percent stake in the company, which operates a 400,000-barrel-per-day refinery in India’s Gujarat, PM Modi’s home state.
Nayara is the second-largest importer of Russian crude, buying about 471,000 barrels per day in January this year, accounting for nearly 40 percent of Russian supplies to India.

Its plant has relied solely on Russian crude since European Union sanctions were imposed on the company last July.

Nayara is not planning to load Russian oil in April as it shuts its refinery for more than a month for maintenance from April 10, according to Reuters.

Pokharna said the future of Nayara hangs in the balance, with the US unlikely to grant India an overt exemption for the Russia-backed company to import crude.


Can India switch to Venezuelan oil?​

India has been a major consumer of Venezuelan oil in the past. At its peak, in 2019, India imported $7.2bn of oil, accounting for just under 7 percent of total imports. That stopped after the US slapped sanctions on Venezuelan oil, but some officials of the government-owned Oil and Natural Gas Corporation are still stationed in the Latin American country.



Now, major Indian refiners have said they are open to receiving Venezuelan oil again, but only if it is a viable option.

For one thing, Venezuela is roughly twice as far from India as Russia and five times further than the Middle East, meaning much higher freight costs.

Venezuelan oil is more expensive as well. “Russian Urals [a medium-heavy crude blend] has been trading at a wide-ranging discount of about $10-20 per barrel to Brent, while Venezuelan Merey currently offers a smaller discount of around $5-8 per barrel,” Voloshin told Al Jazeera.

“Importing from Venezuela and forgoing the Russian discount would be a costly affair for India,” said Pokharna. “From transportation cost to forgoing discounts, it could cost India $6-8 more per barrel – and that is a huge increase in the importing bill.”



Overall, a complete pivot away from Russia could raise India’s import bill by $9bn to $11bn – an amount roughly equal to India’s federal health budget – per year, according to Kpler.

“Venezuelan crude must be discounted by at least $10 to $12 per barrel to be competitive,” argued Voloshin. “This deeper discount is necessary to offset the much higher freight costs, increased insurance premiums for the longer Atlantic voyage, and the somewhat higher operational expenses required to process Venezuela’s extra-heavy high-sulfur crude.”

Without deeper discounts, the longer journey and complex handling make Venezuelan oil more expensive on a delivered basis, he added.

Another major issue is that many Indian refiners simply do not have the facilities to process very heavy Venezuelan oil.

Venezuelan crude is a heavy, sour oil, thick and viscous like molasses, with a high sulphur content requiring complex, specialised refineries to process it into fuel. Only a small number of Indian refineries are equipped to handle it.

“[Venezuelan oil’s heaviness] makes it an option only for complex refineries, leaving out older and smaller refineries,” Pokharna told Al Jazeera. “The shift is operationally difficult and would require blending with more expensive light crudes.”
 
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