Turkey Said to Seek Membership of Saudi-Pakistan Defense Pact

[mulj]

what is going on boys. Are Saudis ok with it ? Saudi and Turks dont get along due to Ottomon history and distrust.

Saudis are main initiators they figured out that is life threat to keep all eggs in one basket.
Their financial and diplomatic clout will muscle up this arrangement to be workable and credible but frankly all three countries are bringing strong cards in it.
This will function not out of the love but because of existential necessity as now and in future will function all for their own so you need to be on the table to avoid being on menu.

 

[Foinikas]

Greece made its alliance against another NATO member. Turkey isn't doing this over Greece, but the Zionist lunatics who are bombing everywhere and trying to destroy the region. Even now they are fundamentally different. But regardless, NATO currently may not be around if Trump attacks Greenland, so its irrelevant.

We didn't specify someone on the text,just like you're not specifying anyone.

 

[mulj]

I am in favor of such an arrangement, I am dubious on the "nuclear umbrella" aspect, as Pakistani programs and rhetoric has always said it was "India-specific", and there is wisdom in that.

You nuclear umbrella is going to be wider and bigger and you will not remain on 150 or so nukes.

 

[hyperman]

We didn't specify someone on the text,just like you're not specifying anyone.

But we know who is involved.

Greece has made a very foolish mistake doing that Israel alliance. If they kept it to the France/EU stuff, Turkey wouldn't have cared as much, it would not have created a potential clash that is being set up right now with the Zionists and their lunacy across the region. But that fool "Now is not the time to discuss legality" decided to become a zionist slave.

 

[Watandar]

haha, and you believed that Bullshit? That is only said to pacify the west and not make Pakistan a target. Saudis didn't fund the nuclear program only for India, they did it with the expectation that if Saudi is attacked, Pakistan will come to its aid with a nuclear umbrella. Pakistan's expansion of its Nuclear Arsenal will also be funded by the Saudis, as no one else will give Pakistan that money.

It's a very grey area. I think the nuke umbrella only comes into play in a single scenario and that is if someone is threatening to destroy the Haramain Sharifain. The idea that the nuke umbrella would then extend to Turkey is not something I would bank on. I also remember reading that the nuke program itself did not have any Saudi funding.

The wisdom with Pakistan saying its all India specific, including capping the missile ranges is to keep the country off the Israeli/American radar.

 

[mulj]

It's a very grey area. I think the nuke umbrella only comes into play in a single scenario and that is if someone is threatening to destroy the Haramain Sharifain. The idea that the nuke umbrella would then extend to Turkey is not something I would bank on. I also remember reading that the nuke program itself did not have any Saudi funding.

The wisdom with Pakistan saying its all India specific, including capping the missile ranges is to keep the country off the Israeli/American radar.

It is hard to think placing nukes widely from current perspective but world is in turmoil and shifting away from post ww2 order, so that will be under the change and reconsideration also.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Interesting. Turkey is doing the exact thing former Turkish MoD Hulusi Akar accused Greece and France of doing:

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lol.

Repeat after me...

"First rule of Geopolitics is Do as I say, not as I do " ..

There you go. Lesson over. Hopefully it all makes sense now.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

Avoid terms like "nukes' (as we have ALWAYS maintained that they are India-specific") and "Islamic NATO" as it'll attract the wrong kinda attention that we can ill afford at this point.

 

[Foinikas]

But we know who is involved.

Greece has made a very foolish mistake doing that Israel alliance. If they kept it to the France/EU stuff, Turkey wouldn't have cared as much, it would not have created a potential clash that is being set up right now with the Zionists and their lunacy across the region. But that fool "Now is not the time to discuss legality" decided to become a zionist slave.

You can't complain about Greece getting in a mutual defence agreement with someone and say "it hurts NATO",at the time Akar made that statement,Turkey was seeking defence cooperation and treaties with Russia! And that was the meme which I probably ruined by cropping the pic to post it here,lemme try to find if i have a copy.

 

[Foinikas]

lol.

Repeat after me...

"First rule of Geopolitics is Do as I say, not as I do " ..

There you go. Lesson over. Hopefully it all makes sense now.

You fail me yet again,Starscream...

Aren't you going to point out the hypocrisy in their foreign policy?

 

[hyperman]

It's a very grey area. I think the nuke umbrella only comes into play in a single scenario and that is if someone is threatening to destroy the Haramain Sharifain. The idea that the nuke umbrella would then extend to Turkey is not something I would bank on. I also remember reading that the nuke program itself did not have any Saudi funding.

The wisdom with Pakistan saying its all India specific, including capping the missile ranges is to keep the country off the Israeli/American radar.

You have Pakistani officials themselves making the matter of the Nuclear Umbrella explicit. And Pakistan is building IRMBs, this is most definitely not about India, Delhi is a stone's throw from Islamabad, you don't build IRBM for that..

Saudis did fund Pakistan its been documented and commented on by Pakistani officials.

 

[hyperman]

You can't complain about Greece getting in a mutual defence agreement with someone and say "it hurts NATO",at the time Akar made that statement,Turkey was seeking defence cooperation and treaties with Russia! And that was the meme which I probably ruined by cropping the pic to post it here,lemme try to find if i have a copy.

This is incorrect.

Russia stuff is false

and Turkey didn't create a deal to fight another NATO member, Idk why you don't see that.

 

[Foinikas]

This is incorrect.

Russia stuff is false

and Turkey didn't create a deal to fight another NATO member, Idk why you don't see that.

MAN don't make it get the backup drive and connect it and look for the pic and transfer it on the PC and post it

 

[Foinikas]

The Greater Israel project has changed everything. Even Saudi Arabia and Iran, are now making concerted efforts to put their past behind them as they both now see the real threat to them all, ie Israel ( and UAE ).

But how sure are we the yahood are working on an actual Greater Israel project,apart from just taking over Gaza,West Bank and the Golan?

 

[Foinikas]

This is incorrect.

Russia stuff is false

and Turkey didn't create a deal to fight another NATO member, Idk why you don't see that.

Found it