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[Eşbah]

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We saw them. Excellent news.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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We saw them. Excellent news.

Netanyahu is looking for another war for certain "now" and I don't think Türkiye should not fall into that trap. Netanyahu may well also want to try "test" and to destroy the new Makkah pact as well, so in reality Saudi, and Pakistan have to be ready with more than just words.

If Netanyahu loses the next election, then there may be a chance for the new leadership to take a different course, and withdraw their forces from Lebanon, Syria, West Bank, Gaza, etc. If they don't, then the west can't really complain if they get hammered by their neighbors economically, or politically or even militarily and they shouldn't feel compelled to rush to their aid either as Israel will be a lost cause.

If Netanyahu wins the next election, and he decides to further escalate, then the west won't have reason to complain if Israel gets embroiled into another conflict, but one where they get hammered by their neighbors economically, or politically or even militarily and they shouldn't feel compelled to rush to their aid either as Israel will be a lost cause.

There is a narrow window of opportunity for them to "rescue themselves" by rolling back their occupation forces of Lebanon, Syria, West Bank, Gaza.

The economics of Israel are now starting to look shaky as people leave, to never return and the rise of the unproductive "religious right" ie the Crazies make the economics unmanageable as well. Interesting video on this below.

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Israel is an inflection point in her future as a country and the next elections will decide the future for them.

 

[Aziqbal]

Israel just threatened Turkey

Maybe they should have read the old quote from Russian Empire about the Ottoman Turks

“There is no soldier more dangerous than a Turk who has decided to die.”

When a dog barks at a Wolf his tail is trembling

If your tail trembles don’t bark

And a Turkish Wolf is something to reckon with

 

[Aziqbal]

 

[Foinikas]

Netanyahu is looking for another war for certain "now" and I don't think Türkiye should not fall into that trap. Netanyahu may well also want to try "test" and to destroy the new Makkah pact as well, so in reality Saudi, and Pakistan have to be ready with more than just words.

Netanyahu probably wants to keep Israel at war in order to stay in power,but Israelis in general are interested in keeping Turkey out of Syria when it comes to bases. It's in their interest that Turkey does not get a strong foothold and military presence anywhere near them. Imagine a couple of Turkish brigades in central Syria. Establishing air bases and deep networks of AA,EW and radars like Syria in Lebanon in the 70s and 80s.

That would be a threat to them. If they let it happen,in a few years the Turkish army could potentially have enough drones,missile artillery,helicopters and soldiers to back up a vanguard of Syrian cannon fodder.

 

[hussain0216]

Netanyahu probably wants to keep Israel at war in order to stay in power,but Israelis in general are interested in keeping Turkey out of Syria when it comes to bases. It's in their interest that Turkey does not get a strong foothold and military presence anywhere near them. Imagine a couple of Turkish brigades in central Syria. Establishing air bases and deep networks of AA,EW and radars like Syria in Lebanon in the 70s and 80s.

That would be a threat to them. If they let it happen,in a few years the Turkish army could potentially have enough drones,missile artillery,helicopters and soldiers to back up a vanguard of Syrian cannon fodder.

This is all true

However Israel is a pariah and increasingly negatively viewed across the world, even in the U.S

Israel is worried that it won't be able to get positive support in the future especially from Democrats, not to the same extent anyway and especially with the population turning anti Israel

So with the orange bufoon in the white House and Zionist supporters and right wingers in control, the Israelis may feel this is the only time they can actually do something against Turkey and Iran

I think the Israeli feel if they wait, everything goes worse for them

Turkey, Saudi, Pakistan the Arab states start expanding their plans and building resources and weapons

Israel loses support and Zionist backers fall out of public favor



Israeli plans haven't worked out against Iran and they are worried everyone is turning on them

 

[Ali_Baba]

Netanyahu probably wants to keep Israel at war in order to stay in power,but Israelis in general are interested in keeping Turkey out of Syria when it comes to bases. It's in their interest that Turkey does not get a strong foothold and military presence anywhere near them. Imagine a couple of Turkish brigades in central Syria. Establishing air bases and deep networks of AA,EW and radars like Syria in Lebanon in the 70s and 80s.

That would be a threat to them. If they let it happen,in a few years the Turkish army could potentially have enough drones,missile artillery,helicopters and soldiers to back up a vanguard of Syrian cannon fodder.

The problem Israel has, is of time. Its support base in the USA is decreasing, it's military capability and advantage is as good as it is ever going to get. It needs to capitalize on its strengths now while it can, to establish as many "facts" as it can on the ground before it loses it's advantages.

The problem Israel has, is that the West, and the USA need a stable Syria for their own geo-political, and economic reasons now ( i.e. oil pipelines/trade routes ) via Syria to Türkiye. They have embraced Syria and its not so desirable leaders for those reasons, and they are not going to be happy with Israel destabilizing Syria at all now. That is the window under which Türkiye will operate under and Israel has to be mindful of.

Israel needs chaos in Syria for multiple reasons, including hopes of reviving the IMEC route and also of trying to force oil pipelines over its territory(https://www.reuters.com/business/en...-touts-oil-pipeline-bypass-hormuz-2026-07-07/) and not Syria and of course Greater Israel.

It's not all about the presence of Türkiye but how Syria will help transform regional connectivity and trade routes sidelining Israel, to the determent of Israel that is "also" the issue.

 

[hyperman]

Netanyahu probably wants to keep Israel at war in order to stay in power,but Israelis in general are interested in keeping Turkey out of Syria when it comes to bases. It's in their interest that Turkey does not get a strong foothold and military presence anywhere near them. Imagine a couple of Turkish brigades in central Syria. Establishing air bases and deep networks of AA,EW and radars like Syria in Lebanon in the 70s and 80s.

That would be a threat to them. If they let it happen,in a few years the Turkish army could potentially have enough drones,missile artillery,helicopters and soldiers to back up a vanguard of Syrian cannon fodder.

FOINIKAS!

YOU ARE BACK!

 

[Foinikas]

FOINIKAS!

YOU ARE BACK!

No. And you should change your nick finally.

 

[Foinikas]

I think the Israeli feel if they wait, everything goes worse for them

Time pressures them,but they have some problems too,for example they can't produce weapons in a rate they can be 100% sufficient and more,we saw that in the Gaza War and the Iranian attacks with ballistic missiles,cruise missiles and drones.

Then,their biggest ally and supplier,the US is having big problems replacing their own stocks of missiles and AA systems,as years of leisure have turned them(and Europeans)
into peace economies. And it will take years for example to even triple just the Patriot missile production.

So on one hand they want to get rid of their big threats fast,on the other they can't because neither they nor their allies can produce weapons and ammunition fast enough and in the quantities needed in order to defeat countries like Iran or Turkey. And when it comes to Turkey,we're not talking about destroying them completely like Iran,but hitting their military and/or defence industry hard enough for a change in policy or change in government.

 

[Foinikas]

The problem Israel has, is of time. Its support base in the USA is decreasing, it's military capability and advantage is as good as it is ever going to get. It needs to capitalize on its strengths now while it can, to establish as many "facts" as it can on the ground before it loses it's advantages.

The problem Israel has, is that the West, and the USA need a stable Syria for their own geo-political, and economic reasons now ( i.e. oil pipelines/trade routes ) via Syria to Türkiye. They have embraced Syria and its not so desirable leaders for those reasons, and they are not going to be happy with Israel destabilizing Syria at all now. That is the window under which Türkiye will operate under and Israel has to be mindful of.

Israel needs chaos in Syria for multiple reasons, including hopes of reviving the IMEC route and also of trying to force oil pipelines over its territory(https://www.reuters.com/business/en...-touts-oil-pipeline-bypass-hormuz-2026-07-07/) and not Syria and of course Greater Israel.

It's not all about the presence of Türkiye but how Syria will help transform regional connectivity and trade routes sidelining Israel, to the determent of Israel that is "also" the issue.

One of their dreams was to have a Kurdish State in order to have more control and allies in the area. And like you said about the oil routes,a Kurdish State in Eastern Syria would be pretty darn sweet for them. Imagine,a small buffer of Druze in Syria,a big buffer of Kurds(to be armed heavily)in the northeast. They'd have some allies there both in economy and militarily.

But they can't do much right now and especially when Trump's administration is full of backsies.