Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

[Foinikas]

That doesnt matter
Israel , Greece and Greek Cypriots were allies against Turkiye a few days ago

Of course it matters. It's like Ukraine bombing Turkish S-400s because Russia has S-400s and Turkey is friendly with Russia. That's the same mindset.

and if we give Radars and other weapons to Syria
but Israel can not fire even a bullet on Turkish Forces in Syria

You don't know that. Syrians shot down a Turkish Phantom. You shot down a Russian Su-24,Russians bombed Turkish soldiers. Israelis bombed Iranians inside Syria,if they think there could be serious threats to their security,they could move to bomb your convoys or bases to send a message.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Turkish ALP-310 AESA Radar can detect the F-35 from 120+ km away and F-15s from 450+ km away

if Israel selling Radars and AD Systems to Greek Cypriots then Turkiye has right to deploy same capability in Syria for response

Turkish Defense Industry is the best in the region ... lets game

With a rapidly advancing defence industry the dumbest thing Turkiye can do in the next 10 years would be to enter a full on war with Isreal and her anglo-american/european backers.

Turkiye is no rush, its her enemies who are in rush.

 

[MMM-E]

Of course it matters. It's like Ukraine bombing Turkish S-400s because Russia has S-400s and Turkey is friendly with Russia. That's the same mindset.

Turkiye is not ally with Russia against Ukraine
but Greek Cypriots were allies with Israel to fight Turkiye

if Israel attack Turkish Forces in Syria

in a conflict , the Turkish Armed Forces will bomb all military threats in the region including BARAK-MX AD Systems and Radars in Cyprus

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye is not ally with Russia against Ukraine
but Greek Cypriots were allies with Israel to fight Turkiye

There's no formal alliance. If you bomb the Barak MX in Cyprus,you would be declaring war to a third country. You would be starting a war that would drag in Greece and maybe even Egypt,Tobruk government of Libya,UAE,France and the Americans.

Greece has a mutual defence agreement with France,USA supports the Israelis,Egyptians want stability and their share of the oil and gas in the area,Tobruk government is dependent on Egypt,UAE supports Haftar and is against Turkey and Qatar.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye is no rush, its her enemies who are in rush.

because after 10 years , Greece and Israel will be so weak in front of upcoming Turkish military power , with

-- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet with indigenous TF-35.000 turbofan engine
-- KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets
-- 200+ F-16 OZGUR-2 block70 standard
-- 44 Eurofighter
-- 40 F-16V even maybe 40 F-35A
-- AIM-120D , METEOR , GOKBORA and GOKHAN BVR air to air Missiles
-- ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft
-- RAMJET powered supersonic Missiles
-- SCRAMJET powered hypersonic Missiles
-- TAYFUN B4 and CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missiles with speed of mach 10
-- TEPE class Destroyers
-- ISTIF and TF-2000 Flight II class Frigates
-- REIS and AY class AIP Submarines
-- MUGEM Aircraft Carrier
-- STELL DOME Air Defense Umbrella to intercept even Ballistic Missiles and stealth Jets

 

[Foinikas]

because after 10 years , Greece and Israel will be so weak in front of upcoming Turkish military power , with

-- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet with indigenous TF-35.000 turbofan engine
-- KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets
-- 200+ F-16 OZGUR-2 block70 standard
-- 44 Eurofighter
-- 40 F-16V even maybe 40 F-35A
-- AIM-120D , METEOR , GOKBORA and GOKHAN BVR air to air Missiles
-- ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft
-- RAMJET powered supersonic Missiles
-- SCRAMJET powered hypersonic Missiles
-- TAYFUN B4 and CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missiles with speed of mach 10
-- TEPE class Destroyers
-- ISTIF and TF-2000 Flight II class Frigates
-- REIS and AY class AIP Submarines
-- MUGEM Aircraft Carrier
-- STELL DOME Air Defense Umbrella to intercept even Ballistic Missiles and stealth Jets

But we're not talking about after 10 years,we're talking about ...now. Maybe in 10 years Turkey will be bankrupt and all these programs will be nothing but pipe dream. We're talking about now.

 

[MMM-E]

There's no formal alliance. If you bomb the Barak MX in Cyprus,you would be declaring war to a third country. You would be starting a war that would drag in Greece and maybe even Egypt,Tobruk government of Libya,UAE,France and the Americans.

Nobody will fight against Turkiye for Greek Cypriots as like 1974

if Israel attack Turkish Forces and Radars in Syria
the first target will be Israeli Systems in Cyprus which were deployed in violation of Zurıch-London agreements

When Greek Cypriots acquired S-300s, Turkiye threatened to strike them and they deployed S300s in Crete / Greece

We are waiting for one reason why Türkiye will destroy BARAK-MX in Cyprus at the first opportunity.

 

[MMM-E]

But we're not talking about after 10 years,we're talking about ...now. Maybe in 10 years Turkey will be bankrupt and all these programs will be nothing but pipe dream. We're talking about now.

Now Turkiye has bigger economy ( $1,5 trillion ) than Greece+Israel+Egypt+Iran combined

in 10 years , Turkish economy will be more bigger
and $100 billion is enough for Turkish military projects in the next 10 years
while even Turkish Airlines buys 350 new Planes for $100 billion between 2025 and 2035


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You said same things 2 years ago , after 2 major earthquakes in Turkiye

Turkiye has enough money and Turkiye built 455.000 new houses for $94 billion in 2 years

The century's construction mobilization is nearing its end: 455,000 homes completed

In two years, 455,000 homes and workplaces were built in the earthquake zone,

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[Foinikas]

Nobody will fight against Turkiye for Greek Cypriots as like 1974

Are you willing to risk it? Times change.

if Israel attack Turkish Forces and Radars in Syria
the first target will be Israeli Systems in Cyprus which were deployed in violation of Zurıch-London agreements

What Zurich-London agreements? Quote something to me.

When Greek Cypriots acquired S-300s, Turkiye threatened to strike them and they deployed S300s in Crete / Greece

Different era,different geopolitical games. Many feel Turkey has been going too far the last few years. If the Israelis decide to do something about you,they'll strike fast and hard. If they launched let's say a surprise attack with F-15s,F-35s and F-16s to obliterate your fleet in the Eastern Mediterranean and your major bases,would you dare to anything with the current state of the TuAF? You have no Eurofighter yet,you have a depleted fleet of F-16s and no Ozgur modernization,you don't have enough indigenous AA systems yet,you don't have the number of ballistic missiles you'd like yet.

If the yahood decided to slap you,they'd slap you hard. That's the reality of it. They're not Americans,they're not Europeans,they're not Russians to sit around and think about it and think of human rights and treaties. If they decide you're a threat,they'll hit fast and hard in pre-emptive strikes. Look at them. They had been exterminating an entire people for 2 years and nobody did a thing to them. No big country stopped them.

 

[MMM-E]

,you don't have the number of ballistic missiles you'd like yet.

Who said that ? your FETO friends ?
in a conflict everybody will see what about the Turkish Armed Forces and Defense Industry

but only dont cry to your daddy USA to stop the Turks

If the yahood decided to slap you,they'd slap you hard. That's the reality of it. They're not Americans,they're not Europeans,they're not Russians

Israel is not a major military power , not even close they can attack only unarmed Palestinians . nothing else

...Yahood should pray for USA ... They are hidding behind USA and barking

Without USA , tiny Israel has neither the strength nor the courage to enter a war in which it has suffered heavy losses.

 

[Foinikas]

Who said that ? your FETO friends ?
in a conflict everybody will see what about the Turkish Armed Forces and Defense Industry

And who said you have? Your AKP propagandists? It took Iran more than a decade to concentrate the number of missiles they have. Maybe even 20 years or more. Non-stop. What will you hit the Israelis with? BORA? Or a some brand new Tayfun?

but only dont cry to your daddy USA to stop the Turks

Oh yeah big guy? Your leadership stopped talking for a while when Israel and USA hit Iran a few months ago. No big talk back then. Erdogan stopped talking.

If you're so strong,why didn't you prevent the Gazan genocide? What were you doing with your powerful army? Making propaganda videos about how strong Turkey is and remembering battles 500 years ago?

Tiny Israel is not a major military power , not even close they can attack only unarmed Palestinians . nothing else

Tiny Israel can chew you out for breakfast. I'm asking you:

With the current state of your Air Force,what can you do to prevent the IAF from smashing every major base and port you have in the Eastern Mediterranean and southeast Turkey?

They can only attack "unarmed Palestinians" you say. What have you been attacking the last 10 years? Unarmed Kurds? The badly equipped SAA?

Aksaz,Mersin,Iskenderun. If they launch a pre-emptive strike there and at the same time here and here:



How will you stop them or counter-attack? With what? Look at the state of your Air Force. You've been trying to buy F-16Vs and Eurofighter. Ozgur program still slow.

I think you're the one who should be afraid,not them.

 

[MMM-E]

Oh yeah big guy? Your leadership stopped talking for a while when Israel and USA hit Iran a few months ago. No big talk back then. Erdogan stopped talking

President ERDOGAN a day ago

Agreements can be made, signatures can be signed, and messages can be sent in various ways, but none of this will change our policy.

Those responsible for the blood of more than 70,000 Palestinians have no moral standing in our eyes; their provocations amount to nothing more than empty noise

President ERDOGAN and Turkiye dont give a f to Israel

They can only attack "unarmed Palestinians" you say. What have you been attacking the last 10 years? Unarmed Kurds? The badly equipped SAA?

Turkiye doesnt attack anyone

but Turkiye kicked USA, France , Russia , Iran backed PKK-YPG , SAA , IRGC , WAGNER , Hezbol , LNA , Armenia , Greece in Syria , Libya , Karabakh and in the Eastern Mediterranean


unarmed Palestinians vs Israel with full of American protection

If you're so strong,why didn't you prevent the Gazan genocide? What were you doing with your powerful army? Making propaganda videos about how strong Turkey is and remembering battles 500 years ago?

only stop hidding behind USA and be a real man ,,,
Türkiye wasn't afraid of the US and Russia, so why would it be afraid of that little piece of shit Israel?

 

[Ali_Baba]

With a rapidly advancing defence industry the dumbest thing Turkiye can do in the next 10 years would be to enter a full on war with Isreal and her anglo-american/european backers.

Turkiye is no rush, its her enemies who are in rush.

True - but a war can be "imposed" on Turkiye the same way it was imposed on Iran. The Iranians never thought they would be attacked directly, and now they know.

 

[Ali_Baba]

There's no formal alliance. If you bomb the Barak MX in Cyprus,you would be declaring war to a third country. You would be starting a war that would drag in Greece and maybe even Egypt,Tobruk government of Libya,UAE,France and the Americans.

These "Cypriot" Israeli made radar systems are being integrated into Israels AD picture and will provide tracking information to Israel on Turkish military movements. So, for that reason, they are a legitimate military target as they will pose a threat to the security of Türkiye.

Had Cyprus not wanted to partake in the Israel-Türkiye party, they would done well to not purchase those Israeli AD systems and then integrated them into Israel. They decided to not only purchase, but agree for them to provide information to Israel. The Cyprus government is therefore not being an "innocent" party, but a "player".

 

[Foinikas]

These "Cypriot" Israeli made radar systems are being integrated into Israels AD picture and will provide tracking information to Israel on Turkish military movements. So, for that reason, they are a legitimate military target as they will pose a threat to the security of Türkiye.

Had Cyprus not wanted to partake in the Israel-Türkiye party, they would done well to not purchase those Israeli AD systems and then integrated them into Israel. They decided to not only purchase, but agree for them to provide information to Israel. The Cyprus government is therefore not being an "innocent" party, but a "player".

And who's gonna stand up and protect them from Erdogan's threats? Let me remind you,their foreign policy a few years back when Cyprus wanted to drill for gas and oil was:
"You either share the profits with Turkish Cypriots or we take action". So on one hand they are in favor of a Two-State solution on the other hand they say "It's one island,so you must share the profits".

If Turkey has integrated the radars to Israel,that is not known,that is not for sure. It's only a speculation.