Türkiye and the Balkans | News & Discussion

[hyperman]

 

[hyperman]

They are planning shit in the Balkans.

 

[hyperman]

 

[Damir]

They are planning shit in the Balkans.

They have long been present in Bosnia; first with Bosnian Croats and then with Bosnian Serbs, they have been slowly paving the way to permanently eliminate us Bosniaks from the country. As if the misfortune of having aggressive neighbors descend upon us, with European backing, were not enough, vultures from Israel have also been present in our state for several years now. When the moment comes for a new war to break out in Bosnia, what will Türkiye do?

Bosnia and the Bosniaks made a massive contribution to the Ottoman Empire; our soldiers fought everywhere from Vienna and Azov to Gallipoli, and from Palestine to Egypt yet how did the Ottoman Empire repay us? By destroying our statehood and the human capital essential for our survival in Christian Europe. Since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, we have faced constant blows, leaving us reduced to a mere remnant in Bosnia confined to just 33% of the territory while in the rest of our homeland, now appropriated by neighboring states, we remain only in traces.

In the event of another war, without external support and assistance, we are doomed to final extinction.

 

[hyperman]

They have long been present in Bosnia; first with Bosnian Croats and then with Bosnian Serbs, they have been slowly paving the way to permanently eliminate us Bosniaks from the country. As if the misfortune of having aggressive neighbors descend upon us, with European backing, were not enough, vultures from Israel have also been present in our state for several years now. When the moment comes for a new war to break out in Bosnia, what will Türkiye do?

Bosnia and the Bosniaks made a massive contribution to the Ottoman Empire; our soldiers fought everywhere from Vienna and Azov to Gallipoli, and from Palestine to Egypt yet how did the Ottoman Empire repay us? By destroying our statehood and the human capital essential for our survival in Christian Europe. Since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, we have faced constant blows, leaving us reduced to a mere remnant in Bosnia confined to just 33% of the territory while in the rest of our homeland, now appropriated by neighboring states, we remain only in traces.

In the event of another war, without external support and assistance, we are doomed to final extinction.

This is why its important to build relations with Albania and Kosovo as well as deconflict issues with Croatia.

 

[Damir]

This is why its important to build relations with Albania and Kosovo as well as deconflict issues with Croatia.

Since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, Croatia alongside Serbia and with open or tacit European support has continuously worked toward our destruction and the annexation of parts of Bosnia. Consequently establishing any form of cooperation or even a tacit peace with Croats is simply impossible. Although we constitute the majority of the population in Bosnia, Bosnian Serbs and Croats hold the majority of political and other forms of power following the Dayton Peace Agreement, leaving us officially unable to pursue cooperation with Albania and Kosovo beyond the cultural and folkloric levels.

Moreover, Albanians in Albania and Kosovo possess a primarily national rather than an Islamic religious consciousness thus they feel no connection to us nor do they seek one.

Furthermore, regarding the remnants of our homeland where we still maintain a trace presence in Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo Albanians offer us the option of adopting an Albanian identity rather than engaging in cooperation.

That is why in my previous post I posed the rhetorical question of what Türkiye, as the successor to the Ottoman Empire, would do in the event of a future war in Bosnia. Looking back at Türkiye’s past actions, there is only one answer ... nothing.

During the war and the dual aggression of the 1990s the "miracle of Bosnian resistance" occurred despite a total blockade and an arms embargo we managed to survive through a fierce struggle. What struck us at the time was the complete absence of any Turkish assistance unlike the support we received from Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and to a lesser extent other Arab nations.

 

[MMM-E]

During the war and the dual aggression of the 1990s the "miracle of Bosnian resistance" occurred despite a total blockade and an arms embargo we managed to survive through a fierce struggle. What struck us at the time was the complete absence of any Turkish assistance unlike the support we received from Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and to a lesser extent other Arab nations.

1 -- Türkiye recognized Bosnia-Herzegovina's independence in 1992

2 -- Türkiye undertook diplomatic initiatives with the United Nations and NATO to halt the Serb attacks

3 -- To circumvent the international arms embargo, Türkiye supplied significant quantities of arms, ammunition and logistical supplies to the Bosnian Army through covert channels particularly via Croatia

4 -- Bosnian soldiers and officers were provided with secret military training in Türkiye, and these soldiers were subsequently sent to the front.

5 -- The Government agencies and civil society organizations sent food, medicine, and financial aid to Bosnia

6 -- During the war, Türkiye opened its doors to tens of thousands of Bosniak refugees fleeing Serb atrocities, providing them with shelter, healthcare and educational opportunities in Turkiye


7 -- The Turkish Air Force actively participated with its F-16 squadrons in NATO's Operation Deny Flight which was conducted to enforce the no fly zone over Bosnia

Turkish Pilots also took part in the NATO bombing raids carried out against Serb positions

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Croat-Bosniak Alliance:
At one stage of the war, Bosniaks and Croats had begun to clash with each other.
The President of Turkiye at the time, Süleyman Demirel and Turkish diplomacy directly mediated diplomatic processes such as the Split Agreement (1995) that reconciled the two sides and enabled them to act jointly against the Serbs


Following the Dayton Peace Agreement (1995) signed after the war, the Turkish Armed Forces continued to support Bosnia's security by actively participating in peacekeeping missions (IFOR and SFOR) in the region.

 

[MMM-E]

In fact, soldiers from the Turkish army even went to Bosnia ( without identification ) served as a strategist and trainer to fight against the Serbs though this is unofficial information, to avoid a diplomatic crisis

At that time, not only active-duty soldiers but also a large number of civilian Turkish volunteers from various political or ideological groups went from Türkiye to Bosnia to fight against the Serbs

What struck us at the time was the complete absence of any Turkish assistance unlike the support we received from Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and to a lesser extent other Arab nations.

Can you tell me please what extra actions Iran and Saudi Arabia or Pakistan have taken ?