Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer

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I've not seen any possibility to use Kizilelma or Anka 3 on carrier. SPecially a carrier without catapult.

KIZILELMA will take off from the ski-jump ramp without the need of a catapult
and performs a hard landing at a wide angle of attack with the help of the catch rope

285m Aircraft Carrier is so big
even 232 m TCG ANADOLU will carry KIZILELMA

Here is how UAVs will be recovered aboard TCG Anadolu - Naval News

The Chief Technology Officer of Turkish drone manufacturer Baykar Technologies gave details on the takeoff and landing operations of BAYRAKTAR KIZILELMA (or MIUS), an unmanned fighter aircraft presently in development, aboard Turkey's planned landing helicopter dock (LHD) Anadolu.

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Those are really impressive.

Turkiye's production capability also so impressive

3 ISTIF class Frigates will be produced in 3 years in 3 different Shipyards

 

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KIZILELMA will take off from the ski-jump ramp without the need of a catapult
and performs a hard landing at a wide angle of attack with the help of the catch rope

285m Aircraft Carrier is so big
even 232 m TCG ANADOLU will carry KIZILELMA

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Here is how UAVs will be recovered aboard TCG Anadolu - Naval News

The Chief Technology Officer of Turkish drone manufacturer Baykar Technologies gave details on the takeoff and landing operations of BAYRAKTAR KIZILELMA (or MIUS), an unmanned fighter aircraft presently in development, aboard Turkey's planned landing helicopter dock (LHD) Anadolu.

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How big runway does it take ??

KIZILELMA is not low speed and low load UAV

KIZILELMA is an unmaned stealth Fighter Jet to carry 1.500 kg payload

KIZILELMA has same advanced characteristics as 5th-generation Fighters

-- High situational awareness with IRST , EOTS and AESA Radar
-- Stealth design featuring a low radar signature
-- Internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence
-- Air to Air Missiles , Guided Munitions , Cruise Missile

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Length
RAFALE : 15.27 m
F-16 : 15.06 m
KIZILELMA : 14.70 m

and there will be twin engine variant which will bigger than F-16 and RAFALE
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In the next 5 years, KIZILELMA will have amazing capabilities

and Turkiye can use unmanned stealth Fighter Jets KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 on Aircraft Carrier and TCG ANADOLU
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btw 285 m Aircraft Carrier to carry navalized variant of KAAN .... nice photshop
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Turkish Aircraft Carrier is long term project in the next 10+ years
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What is kizilelma"s t/w ratio ?
How long runway does it use while taking off from land ??
Any video available.

 

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KIZILELMA will take off from the ski-jump ramp without the need of a catapult
and performs a hard landing at a wide angle of attack with the help of the catch rope

285m Aircraft Carrier is so big
even 232 m TCG ANADOLU will carry KIZILELMA

View attachment 22830

Here is how UAVs will be recovered aboard TCG Anadolu - Naval News

The Chief Technology Officer of Turkish drone manufacturer Baykar Technologies gave details on the takeoff and landing operations of BAYRAKTAR KIZILELMA (or MIUS), an unmanned fighter aircraft presently in development, aboard Turkey's planned landing helicopter dock (LHD) Anadolu.

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I don't think so.
Kizilema has no after burner, so I don't think it is possible to take off with any substancial load from a so short carrier.

 

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If it's having 96 VLS then this warships are going to be hell of a warships second to only Type 55 of China's...... I don't understand why India is not making such warships with huge VLS capability...... we are after all making ACs and nuclear submarines this is not that a tough job.....

 

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If it's having 96 VLS then this warships are going to be hell of a warships second to only Type 55 of China's...... I don't understand why India is not making such warships with huge VLS capability...... we are after all making ACs and nuclear submarines this is not that a tough job.....

A new next-generation destroyer, sometimes dubbed Project 18, is expected to be much larger and provide a further jump in technology.

 

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I don't think so.
Kizilema has no after burner, so I don't think it is possible to take off with any substancial load from a so short carrier.

Wait and see what will happen in 2025 ?

 

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If it's having 96 VLS then this warships are going to be hell of a warships second to only Type 55 of China's...... I don't understand why India is not making such warships with huge VLS capability...... we are after all making ACs and nuclear submarines this is not that a tough job.....

Indian Destroyers use Russian and İsraeli technologies

-- EL/M-2248 MF-STAR Radar from Israel
-- BARAK-8 SAM from Israel
-- BRAHMOS Missile technology from Russia
-- RBU-6000 anti-submarine rocket launchers from Russia
-- AK-630M CIWS from Russia
-- OTO Melara 76 mm naval Gun from Italy

32 cells VLS carry 32 BARAK-8 SAMs

what about VLS ? İndigenous or imported ?

 

[Pingle]

Indian Destroyers use Russian and İsraeli technologies

-- EL/M-2248 MF-STAR Radar from Israel
-- BARAK-8 SAM from Israel
-- BRAHMOS Missile technology from Russia
-- RBU-6000 anti-submarine rocket launchers from Russia
-- AK-630M CIWS from Russia
-- OTO Melara 76 mm naval Gun from Italy

32 cells VLS carry 32 BARAK-8 SAMs

what about VLS ? İndigenous or imported ?

I don't know vls is imported or indigenous

@DDG-80

 

[DDG-80]

I don't know vls is imported or indigenous

@DDG-80

-- EL/M-2248 MF-STAR Radar[Imported]
-- BARAK-8 SAM from Israel[Manufactured by BEL & BDL; In the Barak-8 JV the propulsion was in DRDL's purview. It was also the reason for the initial delays. It was the first time that India was developing dual pulse motors. Outcome of that !We are masters in fuel composition and missile propulsion tech. Some other systems are already being manufactured by Indian companies under license production from Israel. For example the seeker is no longer imported]
-- BRAHMOS Missile technology from Russia[Critical components like seeker, booster and warhead has been indigenised by Indian firms; Indian LRDE-ECIL RF scanning seeker replaces the imported Russian monopulse seeker]
-- RBU-6000 anti-submarine rocket launchers from Russia[Launchers manufactured by L&T Defence; fuse, referred as YDB-60, has been developed and manufactured by Economic Explosives, Nagpur]
-- AK-630M CIWS from Russia[Manufactured by Advanced Weapons and Equipment India Limited Kanpur]
-- OTO Melara 76 mm naval Gun from Italy[Manufactured by BHEL, Haridwar]

what about VLS ? İndigenous or imported ?[Manufactured by L&T Defence; Canister fabrication done by Indian MSME NIBE limited]

Defence ministry inks Rs 2,956 cr contract with BHEL to procure 16 super rapid gun mount for Navy

"The Ministry of Defence has signed a contract with M/s Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL), Haridwar on November 28 for procurement of 16 Upgraded Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM) along with associated equipment/accessories for Indian Navy under Buy (Indian) category at a total cost of Rs...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

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-- EL/M-2248 MF-STAR Radar[Imported]
-- BARAK-8 SAM from Israel[Manufactured by BEL & BDL; In the Barak-8 JV the propulsion was in DRDL's purview. It was also the reason for the initial delays. It was the first time that India was developing dual pulse motors. Outcome of that !We are masters in fuel composition and missile propulsion tech. Some other systems are already being manufactured by Indian companies under license production from Israel. For example the seeker is no longer imported]
-- BRAHMOS Missile technology from Russia[Critical components like seeker, booster and warhead has been indigenised by Indian firms; Indian LRDE-ECIL RF scanning seeker replaces the imported Russian monopulse seeker]
-- RBU-6000 anti-submarine rocket launchers from Russia[Launchers manufactured by L&T Defence; fuse, referred as YDB-60, has been developed and manufactured by Economic Explosives, Nagpur]
-- AK-630M CIWS from Russia[Manufactured by Advanced Weapons and Equipment India Limited Kanpur]
-- OTO Melara 76 mm naval Gun from Italy[Manufactured by BHEL, Haridwar]

what about VLS ? İndigenous or imported ?[Manufactured by L&T Defence; Canister fabrication done by Indian MSME NIBE limited]

Defence ministry inks Rs 2,956 cr contract with BHEL to procure 16 super rapid gun mount for Navy

"The Ministry of Defence has signed a contract with M/s Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL), Haridwar on November 28 for procurement of 16 Upgraded Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM) along with associated equipment/accessories for Indian Navy under Buy (Indian) category at a total cost of Rs...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Thanks bro....

 

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TF-2000 class Destroyer ... Turkiye


..... Indigenous Systems .....

MIDLAS VLS
MKE 127 mm naval Gun

-- ADVENT Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System
-- CAFRAD Multi-function/illumination/Fire control/Long range Radar complex
-- ALPER LPI Surface Radar
-- ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
-- TORK Hard-Kill Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- HIZIR Soft-Kill Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- FERSAH Hull Mounted Sonar
-- DUFAS Low Frequency Towed Active Sonar

-- 40+ km SAPAN SAM
-- 150+ km SIPER SAM
-- 220+ km ATMACA Anti ship Missile
-- 1.000 km GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missile
-- LEVENT close in air defense system .... ( 21 x air defense missiles )
-- GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
-- STOP 25 mm Machine Gun Platform
-- NAZAR LASER - EW System
-- ORKA Torpedo

TF-2000 class Destroyer .... except Engine , full of indigenous


ISTIF class Frigate ...except Engine , full of indigenous

 

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Indian Destroyers use Russian and İsraeli technologies

-- EL/M-2248 MF-STAR Radar from Israel
-- BARAK-8 SAM from Israel
-- BRAHMOS Missile technology from Russia
-- RBU-6000 anti-submarine rocket launchers from Russia
-- AK-630M CIWS from Russia
-- OTO Melara 76 mm naval Gun from Italy

32 cells VLS carry 32 BARAK-8 SAMs

what about VLS ? İndigenous or imported ?

The Pakistani Type 054A/P frigates will be able to carry HQ-16FE missiles soon enough, with a slightly longer range then the Barak-8 missiles.

Other than the Antiship missiles, and the Capacity of the radar, they are nearly on parity; an Indian Destroyer and a Pakistani Frigate.

If the TF-2000 is 7000 tons and packs 96 VLS, it may be a better fit for the PN’s desire for 6 destroyers.

 

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If it's having 96 VLS then this warships are going to be hell of a warships second to only Type 55 of China's...... I don't understand why India is not making such warships with huge VLS capability...... we are after all making ACs and nuclear submarines this is not that a tough job.....

Different classes of warships have different battlefield orientations.

For example, in the Chinese Navy, aircraft carriers have the primary air defence role and are responsible for seizing air control.

The 055 is responsible for anti-ballistic missile (ABM), anti-hypersonic missile (AHBM), and anti-satellite (ASAT) operations, and uses the YJ21(YJ21 is a hypersonic anti-ship missile. Full range Mach 6, end Mach 10. Range 1500km to 1800km) for its primary area denial mission, as well as taking on some of the mid-level air defence tasks. It is also the fleet's electronic hub and command core.

btw: The 055 has the world's only digital array radar. It is the only fifth-generation radar, similar to the F22 of 2005, and is far superior to other radars with its four bands: X, S, C and L.

The 052D is responsible for the main intermediate area air defence mission and performs part of the area denial mission using the YJ18.

The 054B/054AG is responsible for close air defence (HQ16EF with a range of 160km).The 054B carries out the main anti-submarine mission and the 054AG carries out part of the anti-submarine mission.The 054AG is also required to be responsible for other missions such as offshore island resupply and escort of merchant ships.

The world's best anti-ship missile:

YJ-21 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Type 055 / DDG-X [Area Defense Project]

www.globalsecurity.org

The primary reason why India does not build large warships in the 055 class is because India does not have a corresponding military requirement and India does not have a naval fleet of that size. The secondary reason is that India does not have the capability to build ships of this class.

 

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If the TF-2000 is 7000 tons and packs 96 VLS, it may be a better fit for the PN’s desire for 6 destroyers.

TF-2000 Destroyer is 8.300 tons with 96 cells VLS to carry 160 SAMs + 16 antiship Missiles + 16 land attack cruise Missiles ..

also great defense capability with
21 x short range Air Defense Missiles with range of 11 km for Ship point defense



1 x NAZAR LASER - EW System
Broadband state-of-the-art laser functional destruction capability against EO/IR guided missiles


1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS with airburst munition


Turkish SIPER Block-2 SAM with range of 150+ km

range of 250+ km with booster



450 km CAFRAD Multi-function/illumination/Fire control/Long range Radar complex

Active, Non-Rotating IFF Antenna Subsystem
• STANAG 4193 compliant Mode 1/2/3/C/S/5 interrogation
• 450 km range

Active Phased Array Multifunction Radar
• X-Band
• Volume and horizon search
• Air/surface target detection, tracking and classification
• Sea-skimming fast-small target detection and tracking
• Multiple target precise tracking
• 150 km range
• Track capacity >1000

Active Phased Array Illumination Radar
• X-Band
• Semi-active missile guidance
• 150 km range

Active Phased Array Long Range Search Radar
• S-Band
• Long Range volume search
• Air/surface target detection, tracking and classification
• 450 km range
• Track capacity >2000

superior technology




Turkish TF-2000 Destroyer will be more powerful than Indian Visakhapatnam class Destroyer + Pakistani Type-054 Frigate combined