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[MH.Yang]

Chinese ships don't possess CEC yet and neither its SAMs are designed to intercept low sea skimming cruise missiles.

The Chinese Navy has CEC capability.


CCTV's documentary report on China's naval fleet exercises:First the 055's radar detected the target, then the 055 commanded the 054A to launch two HQ16s, then the 054A stopped controlling the HQ16s, and the AWACS transferred the data to the 052DL tens of kilometres away, which commanded the missiles to focus on the target:

 

[DDG-80]

You're bragging about the Mach 2 barak 8. Besides the F18, is there a modern fighter in this world that is slower than the barak 8? F35?

 

[MH.Yang]

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It's still Mach 2.

 

[DDG-80]

The information you post is referred to as "Relay Navigation", not CEC.

I said fleet CEC, not two warships. If you mean two warships CEC, Bangladesh's 053H3 can do it all.

CEC derives from the network-centric architecture of the Barak 8 system and its MF-STAR 360º radar system that harness multiple sensors, launch platforms, and effectors into a single air defense system. By fitting a data-link to each interceptor, missiles can be updated via data-link after launch by any network member. With this capability, Barak-8 missiles can receive target updates on their mid-course, with updated target information, retasking the highest priority target, until the missile enters the terminal engagement. This capability maximizes missile utilization and battle economy. It enables a single ship to orchestrate the air defense mission or allocate missions to other vessels when required.

 

[DDG-80]

It's still Mach 2.

The speed is variable depending on the distance to target location.The extremely efficient light weight DPRM design gives it QR caps with terminal homing speed reaching Mach 5 with 2nd pulse motor.

Speed matters in interception? Yes in tail chase, but not in head on.

 

[DDG-80]

The Chinese Navy has CEC capability.


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The radars guiding HQ-9/16 is a 2D search radar meaning it gives target bearing and distance but not altitude. The SAMs need their main radar or other sensors for final targetting which affects the accuracy of the missiles...

 

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[MH.Yang]

The radars guiding HQ-9/16 is a 2D search radar meaning it gives target bearing and distance but not altitude. The SAMs need their main radar or other sensors for final targetting which affects the accuracy of the missiles...

You are wrong.

HQ9/HQ16EF uses "mid-range command + terminal active radar guidance".

 

[MH.Yang]

The speed is variable depending on the distance to target location.The extremely efficient light weight DPRM design gives it QR caps with terminal homing speed reaching Mach 5 with 2nd pulse motor.

Speed matters in interception? Yes in tail chase, but not in head on.

I have checked a lot.Barak-8 speed is Mach 2 with a maximum speed of Mach 3 when approaching the target. I don't know where you read that the Barak-8 is capable of Mach 5.

 

[DDG-80]

I have checked a lot.Barak-8 speed is Mach 2 with a maximum speed of Mach 3 when approaching the target. I don't know where you read that the Barak-8 is capable of Mach 5.

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[MH.Yang]

CEC derives from the network-centric architecture of the Barak 8 system and its MF-STAR 360º radar system that harness multiple sensors, launch platforms, and effectors into a single air defense system. By fitting a data-link to each interceptor, missiles can be updated via data-link after launch by any network member. With this capability, Barak-8 missiles can receive target updates on their mid-course, with updated target information, retasking the highest priority target, until the missile enters the terminal engagement. This capability maximizes missile utilization and battle economy. It enables a single ship to orchestrate the air defense mission or allocate missions to other vessels when required.

You're talking about "relay navigation", not CEC, which is only part of CEC's capabilities, not all of them.

CEC includes Composite Tracking and Identification，Precision Cueing，Coordinated Cooperative Engagements.

You're only talking about combining the information from all the radars on a ship to calculate, whereas the 055 gives any ship in the fleet access to the radar information from each ship in the fleet to calculate.


Can you see where the integrated aperture antenna is?

 

[MH.Yang]

Indian Navy Kolkata Class Destroyers

An extensive, in depth analysis of the Indian Navy Kolkata Destroyer Class (Project 15A).

medium.com

Thanks, I read the information you posted. Maintained Mach 2 the whole time. Started picking up speed to Mach 5 for the last 5km. I still think it's too slow to be honest.

 

[DDG-80]

You're talking about "relay navigation", not CEC, which is only part of CEC's capabilities, not all of them.

CEC involves using data-links between ships and platforms to have a common picture of a battle situation and taking control of weaponry on multiple platforms. The system allows navies to respond more rapidly to saturation attacks involving large numbers of low flying anti-ship missiles. It revolves around maximising the advantages offered by sophisticated radars such as the MF-STAR.

 

[MH.Yang]

CEC involves using data-links between ships and platforms to have a common picture of a battle situation and taking control of weaponry on multiple platforms. The system allows navies to respond more rapidly to saturation attacks involving large numbers of low flying anti-ship missiles. It revolves around maximising the advantages offered by sophisticated radars such as the MF-STAR.

I don't know if there is something wrong with my language description and you still don't understand what I mean.
Each node of the Chinese naval fleet (including ships, AWACS, etc.) can link the 055 via a 5G broadband data link bar to share radar detection information (including target bearing, altitude, speed, etc.) between each other as well as the corresponding enemy identifier for each target. Each node takes the information from all other nodes and processes and fuses it itself into an integrated radar image. This is the CEC that the Chinese Navy is integrating through the 055.
Through the integration of the 055, each node in the fleet network can obtain the position of a target that has not yet been contacted by its own radar for prior processing, so that it can know in advance which position the target is in, and then use its radar to do precise detection of that place in a small area, with concentrated power and long residence time. Moreover, the ship's combat launch control system can also start operation in advance. If further clearer target contact is obtained, and then shared back to the entire fleet data network through the 055, all nodes will be able to obtain more precise information on that particular target.

 

[Sharma Ji]

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Trust vector

What a hilarious typo !