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Does it hurt to get some defence systems and ToT,while we can? Besides,the time is right,
you've got problems with them,they've got problems with you. That probably won't last. Personally,I'd want more defence purchases and cooperation with France. It makes more sense. Germans,British and Italians are pro-Turkish,Americans go back and forth,we should have gone full French from the start. But our government decided to return to USA's sphere of influence in 2022-2023 onwards...
It's nothing but a public confession of your inferiority in comparison to Turkey. You understand this, right? Despite all the shiny new toys like F35s and French frigates, you still lack the confidence to confront your neighbour on your own. Besides, I'm not saying Greece will get hurt by this cooperation. I'm merely pointing out that it's well in the realm of possibility that Greece could get hurt by trying to buddy up with Israel. They will NEVER support you in case of war. Never.
 
It's nothing but a public confession of your inferiority in comparison to Turkey. You understand this, right? Despite all the shiny new toys like F35s and French frigates, you still lack the confidence to confront your neighbour on your own.
How was Greece ever in a position to take on a country with 8x larger population,larger armed forces and bigger economy? It was always about keeping a kind of balance and a strictly defensive doctrine on our side. We were always outnumbered in tanks,aircraft and ships in the 80s and 90s and 2000s. That's why we tried to have a small qualitative advantage or at least be on the same level with your best equipment.

I have a magazine with historic Greek-Turkish tank balance(types and numbers in certain time periods),I want to find it and take a pic or scan it. Remind if I forget,it's interesting.
 
"NEW: Israel, Greece and Cyprus sign trilateral military cooperation work plan for 2026

“The plans include joint exercises, training, working groups across a range of fields, and strategic military dialogue, including in the East Mediterranean” the IDF says"


Signing a defense partnership agreement with Israel, which is cursed by the whole world, really suits Greece. In any case, it could be predicted that these two despicable countries would come together in a possible war. It didn’t surprise me at all.
 
it could be predicted that these two despicable countries would come together in a possible war.
Greece despicable? You're so salty...

I'd understand you calling the Israeli despicable and a lot of other names,but us? Hah...

Do you realize,are you capable of realizing,that all this is your government's doing? That it's Erdogan who pushed us to find allies there to counter your bullying? Impossible for Turks to understand other countries react to their revisionist ideas.

It's simple: Some nations don't want to become Ottoman slaves again. Neither slaves nor vassals. It's that simple. And Erdogan has clear plans for Turkey's hegemony in the region and beyond.

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Sorry,there are some nations who don't want to come under Turkish occupation again. I'm saying this with respect,because I understand it's your country and heritage. But man,no. Such rhetorics and plans cause reactions. One of these reactions is countries like Greece,Cyprus,Egypt,Israel coordinating against any potential threats.
 
Greece despicable? You're so salty...

I'd understand you calling the Israeli despicable and a lot of other names,but us? Hah...

Do you realize,are you capable of realizing,that all this is your government's doing? That it's Erdogan who pushed us to find allies there to counter your bullying? Impossible for Turks to understand other countries react to their revisionist ideas.

It's simple: Some nations don't want to become Ottoman slaves again. Neither slaves nor vassals. It's that simple. And Erdogan has clear plans for Turkey's hegemony in the region and beyond.

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Sorry,there are some nations who don't want to come under Turkish occupation again. I'm saying this with respect,because I understand it's your country and heritage. But man,no. Such rhetorics and plans cause reactions. One of these reactions is countries like Greece,Cyprus,Egypt,Israel coordinating against any potential threats.
Turkey has no intention of occupying Greece. Even if you wanted it, we wouldn’t. For centuries, we protected you, your religion, your language, and your culture from the Catholics. If it were today, assimilation would be the first thing we’d do. Anyway, we have no intention of being in the same country with you again.


Why don’t Bulgaria, Romania, Iraq, or other former Ottoman provinces think like you do? Because we genuinely have no such intention. We are not going to make you a vassal. You are creating an enemy for yourselves in a fantasy world. Our only expectation in the Eastern Mediterranean is a fair EEZ. You know that the island of Kastellorizo (Meis) does not generate an EEZ, but you insist on it to strengthen your hand in negotiations. You are openly trying to take what rightfully belongs to Turkey.


Your partnership with Israel has no justification whatsoever. Most likely, even your own people will oppose it.
 
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Israelis will send tanks into a tiny blockaded strip of land which they have carpet bombed and reduced to rubble for several months and then call themselves brave
 
Turkey has no intention of occupying Greece. Even if you wanted it, we wouldn’t.
Occupying the whole of Greece maybe not,but grabbing a few islands? Half the Aegean,annexing the Megisti complex, that is Kastelorizo and the small islands around it,grabbing Western Thrace maybe.

For centuries, we protected you, your religion, your language, and your culture from the Catholics.
You protected us from the Catholics? Man come on 😂

Why don’t Bulgaria, Romania, Iraq, or other former Ottoman provinces think like you do?
Because first of all you already settled the EEZ in the Black Sea during the Cold War,second you have no excuses there and they have no islands for you to take advantage of. Third,northern Iraq is full of Kurds and Shia Arabs and any attempt to grab the oilfields of Kirkuk and Mosul would be met with warcries from Iran and the Americans.

You are creating an enemy for yourselves in a fantasy world.
My friend,do you remember the period from 2020 to early 2023? Erdogan,Akar, Çavusoglu and others would raise tensions every week with warmongering rhetoric and open threats. I have the screenshots,there are videos. The last couple of years you guys have been creating new units in the Aegean Army. You're arming like you're preparing for war. What should one expect when Erdogan repeats "We will come one night,suddenly..." and "Our missiles can reach Athens" or when threaten the Cypriots with war if they drill on their side? Their side man,southeast and south of the Greek part of Cyprus.
You printed a Mavi Vatan map claiming our own islands and our own sea and you adopted it as foreign policy! You are creating the enemy!

Our only expectation in the Eastern Mediterranean is a fair EEZ. You know that the island of Kastellorizo (Meis) does not generate an EEZ, but you insist on it to strengthen your hand in negotiations.
Unfortunately,that's not the only claim. Turkey claims half the Aegean now,ignoring our islands and reaching down to Libya in absurd demands. An agreement for Kastelorizo could be made,but not one that would cut our connection to Cyprus. The problem though,is that you have Turkish ministers and politicians saying we should "share the wealth of the Aegean" and others even claiming the Dodecanese are "under occupation"...

Your partnership with Israel has no justification whatsoever.
On the contrary,Turkey's threats combined with massive arms programs is what makes us look for potential allies in the area. One look at MMM-E's long lists of Turkish defence programs and you understand why we are suspicious.
 
Turkey claims half the Aegean now,ignoring our islands and reaching down to Libya in absurd demands. An agreement for Kastelorizo could be made,but not one that would cut our connection to Cyprus.
Cyprus and Greece are very far apart; of course it’s impossible for them to be connected. Crete and Rhodes do not generate an EEZ. Greece is not an island state. It seems impossible to reach an agreement with a Greek. Turkey needs to divide the Mediterranean in half with Egypt and Libya. Your absurd fantasies have no counterpart in real life
 
Cyprus and Greece are very far apart; of course it’s impossible for them to be connected. Crete and Rhodes do not generate an EEZ. Greece is not an island state. It seems impossible to reach an agreement with a Greek. Turkey needs to divide the Mediterranean in half with Egypt and Libya. Your absurd fantasies have no counterpart in real life
And that's where you're wrong,because you're following what the government propaganda says and has turned into foreign policy,even though it's illogical.

According to international law,islands DO generate EEZ.

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Erdogan is an uneducated, filthy bastard, same is Ilham Aliyev. He allowed Azerbaijani oil to flow to Israel during the Gaza genocide. If he had turned the tap off not a drop of oil would have flowed to the Israeli refineries, not a single sortie of F-35 Adirs bombing innocent and helpless Gazans.

Azerbaijan (via Turkey) and Kazakhstan (via Russia) supplied around 70% of crude oil to Israel during the genocide!


And at the same time used to proclaim:

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And that's where you're wrong,because you're following what the government propaganda says and has turned into foreign policy,even though it's illogical.

According to international law,islands DO generate EEZ.

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What you’re sharing is nonsense and has no value. For example, Snake Island in Ukraine did not generate an EEZ. According to the generally accepted rule, islands that are very close to the opposing coast do not generate an EEZ. Talking to you is a waste of time. The absurd EEZ maps you are trying to impose on Turkey will end up in the trash.
 
Turkey has no intention of occupying Greece

A bandit group blaming Türkiye to cover up their own illegal actions

Armenia occupied Karabakh in 1990s
USA-Israel-France backed PKK-YPG occupied 30% of Syria

Israel occupied Palestine and GAZA
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and Greece wants to occupy Aegean Sea since 1990s

The status of the Aegean Sea was determined by the Treaty of Lausanne

Türkiye should urgently call on Greece to return to the Lausanne Treaty, which stipulates that territorial waters in the Aegean Sea are 3 miles, and to respect the rule of law
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Most of Greek islands are only 2-7-10 km away from Turkİsh Mainland and Greece wants to increase its territorial waters to 12nm

then Turkish Ships can not move in the Aegean
Türkiye is completely losing its continental shelf in the Aegean Sea, and it is falling entirely under Greece's control, and yet these shameless Greeks are still talking about a so-called Turkish occupation
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Lunatic Greek offer to Turkiye in the Aegean Sea
5% to Turkiye
75% to Greece
20% international waters
 
What you’re sharing is nonsense and has no value. For example, Snake Island in Ukraine did not generate an EEZ. According to the generally accepted rule, islands that are very close to the opposing coast do not generate an EEZ. Talking to you is a waste of time. The absurd EEZ maps you are trying to impose on Turkey will end up in the trash.

Also Greece is trying to portray the hundreds of miles of maritime area between the islands of Meis, Rhodes, Karpathos, Kasos, and Crete as if there were a single landmass and a continuous coastline stretching from Meis to Crete

1 -- Greece is not Archipelago State therefore Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland , not from every tiny Island which is only 2-7-10-30 km away from Turkish Mainland

2 -- Islands less than 200 miles from the mainland do not generate EEZ

3 -- Also according to International law , Islands can not block Mainland


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Spain and Morocco, acting in accordance with maritime law, base their delimitation on their mainland territories, respecting the principles of geographical superiority, non-enclosure, and proportionality, and do not grant any maritime jurisdiction beyond their territorial waters to the Spanish islands on the opposite side (in front of the Moroccan mainland)

Real World vs Greek Wet Dreams
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What you’re sharing is nonsense and has no value. For example, Snake Island in Ukraine did not generate an EEZ. According to the generally accepted rule, islands that are very close to the opposing coast do not generate an EEZ. Talking to you is a waste of time. The absurd EEZ maps you are trying to impose on Turkey will end up in the trash.
These maps are accepted by everyone,except Turkey. That's how every debate ends: Turks run out of arguments and just go back to their original point of "Turkey is a strong country,we'll do what we want".

It is worth mentioning that the United States, which is only 90 miles from the coast of Cuba, did not dare to claim that Cuba, because it is an island, does not have full rights to its EEZ. It has delimited the EEZ between the two states, using the method of "equidistance", that is, the method the Turks hate so much. Finally, it is important to remember that the United States did not use the Turkish argument that it has a huge coastline in comparison to the Cuban coastline and therefore Cuba should receive much smaller EEZ because it has a smaller coastline. When the United States will have a new president after the 20th of January 2021, we are hoping and expecting that the United States will change its policies towards Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus.


Türkiye should urgently call on Greece to return to the Lausanne Treaty, which stipulates that territorial waters in the Aegean Sea are 3 miles, and to respect the rule of law

The Treaty of Lausanne does not mention anything like that. What the Treaty of Lausanne mentions concerning 3 miles is the following:

ARTICLE 12.

The decision taken on the 13th February 1914, by the Conference of London, in virtue of Articles 5 of the Treaty of London of the 17th-30th May, 1913, and 15 of the Treaty of Athens of the 1st-14th November, 1913, which decision was communicated to the Greek Government on the 13th February 1914, regarding the sovereignty of Greece over the islands of the Eastern Mediterranean, other than the islands of Imbros, Tenedos and Rabbit Islands, particularly the islands of Lemnos, Samothrace, Mytilene, Chios, Samos and Nikaria, is confirmed, subject to the provisions of the present Treaty respecting the islands placed under the sovereignty of Italy which form the subject of Article 15.
Except where a provision to the contrary is contained in the present Treaty, the islands situated at less than three miles from the Asiatic coast remain under Turkish sovereignty.


Which means,that Turkey is ONLY entitled to 3 miles of its coast with the exception of Imbros,Tenedos,the Rabbit islands for Turkey and the islands given to Greece.

Most of Greek islands are only 2-7-10 km away from Turkİsh Mainland and Greece wants to increase its territorial waters to 12nm

then Turkish Ships can not move in the Aegean
Türkiye is completely losing its continental shelf in the Aegean Sea, and it is falling entirely under Greece's control, and yet these shameless Greeks are still talking about a so-called Turkish occupation
This nonsensical argument has been debunked again and again:

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Lunatic Greek offer to Turkiye in the Aegean Sea
5% to Turkiye
75% to Greece
20% international waters
You have the Black Sea,you have eastern Mediterranean,why complain? By international law and treaties,this is our territory. It's not our "offer". You lost in the Balkan Wars,you lost in WWI,this is your territory. After 70 years,you don't like it and demand more. Ok,then just say it,you have expansionist aggressive plans. Don't blame us and say "lunatic greek offer". It's like Germans telling the British and Scandinavians "Lunatic ally offer,Germany is a big country,we should have more".

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This nonsensical argument has been debunked again and again:

The Greeks are justifying their own lawlessness

By extending its territorial waters to 12 miles, Greece will resolve all issues in its favor, including those concerning the continental shelf, exclusive economic zone, and airspace, thereby establishing absolute dominance in the Aegean Sea

Turkiye's territorial integrity will be disrupted; approximately 90% of the Aegean Sea continental shelf and exclusive economic zone will belong to Greece


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The extraction and operation of natural resources in the Aegean Sea by Turkiye will severely restrict economic activities such as fishing, tourism, and scientific research.

Moreover, Turkish Navy Warships will become unable to conduct training and exercises in the Aegean Sea

so , dont talk tales to the TURKS and stop dreaming about it
 

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