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The Israeli opposition backs the war against Iran, but their views on Turkey couldn't be more different.

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The Turkish government doesn't provide Netanyahu the political escalation he needs to get re-elected.
 
Eşbah said:
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also worth pointing out that about 10 million plus syrians were directly under Turkish protection either within Turkiye or in regions in Syria where the Turkish army was present.
 
PaklovesTurkiye said:
Israelis believe in speed, lethality and in preemptive strike...You do need nukes asap.

Turks have a full case study of Iran here.

If Turks also sleep on nukes - a huge humiliation awaits them.

Israelis draw thier power/resources from US MIC. Turks will strugle here.

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Nukes give you sense of power that no conventional strength can match.

There is a reason Israelis didn't allow Iranians to have nukes - from killing their scientists to all the way down to attacking whole country/nuclear sites
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I've been of the opinion for some time now that if Turkiye needs nuclear warheads they either have the ability to develop them or they have access to them.

Now if Turkiye does have nuclear weapons, it would only be something revealed at the last moment. So if Turkiye came into an allout war with Russia or Isreali/USA, then they will be revealed.

At least this i how think the Turkish mindset would play this game. If we have it, its not in our interests right now for anyone to know we have it.
 
Eşbah said:
The Turkish government doesn't provide Netanyahu the political escalation he needs to get re-elected.
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The other side of the coin is the Turkish government chickens to confront Israel right now.
Because admit it or not,they have balls. They act. They're not like the Greek governments who remain passive and try to appease Erdogan's whims or issue a lukewarm statement 2-3 days later like "It's not constructive to escalate tensions" or "Greece stands firm in the defence of..." blah blah.

Israelis act when they sense a threat. When they feel threatened they don't take second chances nor appease enemies,they act. The point is,we've often seen Turkish F-16s and Phantoms fly even on the news that Greek politicians are visiting eastern Aegean islands.
Sending F-16s flying over islets in the Aegean or sending Phantoms to intercept Syrian jets in the 2010s.

Israelis bomb bases of Turkish interest,close to Turkey and there's not a single pair of F-16s flying around to project power or will to stand up to them. Why? Well,because Israelis would have shot them down. The same "dayilik" that Turkish pilots do against Greek jets or French ships,wouldn't work with Israelis. Especially their Air Force.

And that's the other side of the coin. We've seen since the start of the war in Gaza in late 2023,that Erdogan's government has been cowering when it comes to confronting Israelis. Heck,we even saw that in 2010 after the flotilla incident.
 
Foinikas said:
The other side of the coin is the Turkish government chickens to confront Israel right now.
Because admit it or not,they have balls. They act. They're not like the Greek governments who remain passive and try to appease Erdogan's whims or issue a lukewarm statement 2-3 days later like "It's not constructive to escalate tensions" or "Greece stands firm in the defence of..." blah blah.

Israelis act when they sense a threat. When they feel threatened they don't take second chances nor appease enemies,they act. The point is,we've often seen Turkish F-16s and Phantoms fly even on the news that Greek politicians are visiting eastern Aegean islands.
Sending F-16s flying over islets in the Aegean or sending Phantoms to intercept Syrian jets in the 2010s.

Israelis bomb bases of Turkish interest,close to Turkey and there's not a single pair of F-16s flying around to project power or will to stand up to them. Why? Well,because Israelis would have shot them down. The same "dayilik" that Turkish pilots do against Greek jets or French ships,wouldn't work with Israelis. Especially their Air Force.

And that's the other side of the coin. We've seen since the start of the war in Gaza in late 2023,that Erdogan's government has been cowering when it comes to confronting Israelis. Heck,we even saw that in 2010 after the flotilla incident.
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Israelis also provoke and try to get a reaction, upon which then they either attack or wail to the world. It is good to not react tit for tat to Israel and act with wisdom and patience.
 
Foinikas said:
The other side of the coin is the Turkish government chickens to confront Israel right now.
Because admit it or not,they have balls. They act. They're not like the Greek governments who remain passive and try to appease Erdogan's whims or issue a lukewarm statement 2-3 days later like "It's not constructive to escalate tensions" or "Greece stands firm in the defence of..." blah blah.

Israelis act when they sense a threat. When they feel threatened they don't take second chances nor appease enemies,they act. The point is,we've often seen Turkish F-16s and Phantoms fly even on the news that Greek politicians are visiting eastern Aegean islands.
Sending F-16s flying over islets in the Aegean or sending Phantoms to intercept Syrian jets in the 2010s.

Israelis bomb bases of Turkish interest,close to Turkey and there's not a single pair of F-16s flying around to project power or will to stand up to them. Why? Well,because Israelis would have shot them down. The same "dayilik" that Turkish pilots do against Greek jets or French ships,wouldn't work with Israelis. Especially their Air Force.

And that's the other side of the coin. We've seen since the start of the war in Gaza in late 2023,that Erdogan's government has been cowering when it comes to confronting Israelis. Heck,we even saw that in 2010 after the flotilla incident.
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Ok lets see them actually bomb Turkish troops or Turkey. They won't do shit. Turkey is not Iran or Hezbollah. And they have proven they cannot handle Iran.
 
Foinikas said:
The other side of the coin is the Turkish government chickens to confront Israel right now.
Because admit it or not,they have balls. They act. They're not like the Greek governments who remain passive and try to appease Erdogan's whims or issue a lukewarm statement 2-3 days later like "It's not constructive to escalate tensions" or "Greece stands firm in the defence of..." blah blah.

Israelis act when they sense a threat. When they feel threatened they don't take second chances nor appease enemies,they act. The point is,we've often seen Turkish F-16s and Phantoms fly even on the news that Greek politicians are visiting eastern Aegean islands.
Sending F-16s flying over islets in the Aegean or sending Phantoms to intercept Syrian jets in the 2010s.

Israelis bomb bases of Turkish interest,close to Turkey and there's not a single pair of F-16s flying around to project power or will to stand up to them. Why? Well,because Israelis would have shot them down. The same "dayilik" that Turkish pilots do against Greek jets or French ships,wouldn't work with Israelis. Especially their Air Force.

And that's the other side of the coin. We've seen since the start of the war in Gaza in late 2023,that Erdogan's government has been cowering when it comes to confronting Israelis. Heck,we even saw that in 2010 after the flotilla incident.
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Israel is desperate to act whilst it has U.S support with Trump and Zionists at the helm

Anti Israel hatred is becoming entrenched

The U.S is on the verge of a economic crisis, partly as a result of the war on Iran which the Zionists suckered the U.S into

Even so Israel is seeing Turkey surround it and tighten the noose

Syria is now supported by Turkey and the Arab states, so the money and the weapons are their to set up the Syrian military

Multiple states are also attempting to untangle Egypt from the Zionist clutches


Israel hopes Turkey will back off, it won't

A confrontation is coming and time is Israels biggest enemy at the moment
 
hussain0216 said:
Israel is desperate to act whilst it has U.S support with Trump and Zionists at the helm

Anti Israel hatred is becoming entrenched
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I disagree on this for the following reasons:

I believe the Israelis would still do something if they perceived Turkey as a threat to their survival(not just interests),even with another government.

Then,it's not about Trump's support. There is a rift in the MAGA and generally the conservative side of USA,as people are fed up with Israel's shenanigans and aggression and most importantly having to be the guy to start wars just to save Israelis.

Desperate to act maybe because Netanyahu wants to keep Israel at war so he can declare emergency powers and postpone the elections.

hussain0216 said:
Multiple states are also attempting to untangle Egypt from the Zionist clutches
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You have to understand that Egypt is not in Zionist clutches,they're just doing what they think is better for their own survival at this point. And because they have had decades of sour experience having to deal with Palestinian resistance groups' every demand and Hamas' hardcore stubborn ideologies. Not to mention,they've had terr and insurgencies in the Sinai,by groups sympathetic or connected to the Muslim Brothehood. So the Egyptians have their own reasons.

hussain0216 said:
Israel hopes Turkey will back off, it won't
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From 2023 to now,Turkey has proven to cower and only talk when it comes to Israel.

It's now plain truth that when Israeli fighters fly close to Turkey inside Syria,the TuAF is absent.
 
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