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[GoatsMilk]

Israelis are setting up the stage nicely with Turkey.

They'll compel Turkey to make the first move. They'll then bring out the age-old Victim card and get their little Bitch America to do most of the dirty work.

And incase you're wondering about NATO...guess what? Article 5 (or whatever number it is) doesn't apply if a member state makes the first move. Turkey has to be very careful here and use their cards wisely. Time to engage brain, not emotions.

As a Pakistani, my advice to my country is use this time to prepare, prepare and prepare....and prepare even more. They'll definitely knock our door...just not yet.

From an isreali perspective they need to do something as soon as possible to cripple Turkiye. They cannot allow Turkiye to rebuild syria. That would be a total disaster scenario for their greater isreal agenda.

From a Turkish perspective we need time, at least 5 years ideally 10. Not to just develop our own military hardware, but to develop our relations with all relevant nations. The mecca part is an important element of that.

Isrealis are desperate to create a situation in which they can bring big daddy the USA in to directly target Turkiye like they did with Iran.

So ideally Turkiye doesn't fall into their trap, however if worst comes to worst and Turkiye falls into their trap it will be total war. I don't see the Turks sitting back and lobbing missiles, they will look to march an army via syria. Obviously the americans and europeans will help Isreal, but if its all out war, i don't see Turks at that point caring about the costs.

 

[hussain0216]

I disagree on this for the following reasons:

I believe the Israelis would still do something if they perceived Turkey as a threat to their survival(not just interests),even with another government.

Then,it's not about Trump's support. There is a rift in the MAGA and generally the conservative side of USA,as people are fed up with Israel's shenanigans and aggression and most importantly having to be the guy to start wars just to save Israelis.

Desperate to act maybe because Netanyahu wants to keep Israel at war so he can declare emergency powers and postpone the elections.


You have to understand that Egypt is not in Zionist clutches,they're just doing what they think is better for their own survival at this point. And because they have had decades of sour experience having to deal with Palestinian resistance groups' every demand and Hamas' hardcore stubborn ideologies. Not to mention,they've had terr and insurgencies in the Sinai,by groups sympathetic or connected to the Muslim Brothehood. So the Egyptians have their own reasons.


From 2023 to now,Turkey has proven to cower and only talk when it comes to Israel.

It's now plain truth that when Israeli fighters fly close to Turkey inside Syria,the TuAF is absent.

Israel will do something????

Do what???

Iran is far away from Israel, it doesn't have a airforce and it's built its offence around missiles

And even with massive U.S and European support, Israel was hurting

Israels strength if the control of the U.S, something which more and more Americans resent

So sucking the U.S into a war which has destroyed multiple U.S bases, hurt multiple economies including its own, and broken the hold the U.S had over the GCC and Arab states is a MASSIVE own goal

Iran may be hurting but it will recover and plan to harm Israel



Turkey is much much closer
With a large navy and anti ship missiles that could force a siege upon the Israeli state
Turkey may have some disagreements with some Arab states, but they in no way will oppose Turkey
Turkey has the ability to target and seriously hurt Israel and may be actually capable of targeting Israeli airbases without which Israel is dead


Israel only survived against Iran because of the weapons supplies from the U.S and west

Iran couldn't stop those weapons supplies BUT Turkey can,

Without those supplies how long a war do you think Israel can fight?

 

[hyperman]

From an isreali perspective they need to do something as soon as possible to cripple Turkiye. They cannot allow Turkiye to rebuild syria. That would be a total disaster scenario for their greater isreal agenda.

From a Turkish perspective we need time, at least 5 years ideally 10. Not to just develop our own military hardware, but to develop our relations with all relevant nations. The mecca part is an important element of that.

Isrealis are desperate to create a situation in which they can bring big daddy the USA in to directly target Turkiye like they did with Iran.

So ideally Turkiye doesn't fall into their trap, however if worst comes to worst and Turkiye falls into their trap it will be total war. I don't see the Turks sitting back and lobbing missiles, they will look to march an army via syria. Obviously the americans and europeans will help Isreal, but if its all out war, i don't see Turks at that point caring about the costs.

Turkey just needs to destroy the ports in Tel Aviv and Haifa. That entire country relies on 2 ports to operate, they don't have any land routes or alternatives.

They don't grow their own food, they don't have pipelines and no strategic depth. This state only lives off the patronage of the US and Europe.