U.S. Ban of TikTok Is Set to Deal a Major Blow to ByteDance, Its Chinese Owner

Nah, if US government censor anything, channel like TYT or extremely popular Palestine channel like Fori Mozi would not ever existed.


US Government don't care about these issues, that's what I was saying, on the other hand, Tik Tok has been on the US list far longer than this war started Oct 7 in 2023. This is just a long line of work on fixing them.


Of course the Zionist-infiltrated US government does. They even funded and enabled a genocide destroying the last vestiges of western moral authority over human rights and their own "international law".


TYT's etc are insignificant "allowed dissent" and even they have a filter as they accept the right of the entity to exist.

Tik-Tok is far more influential and reaches a much larger audience where the complete picture of the terrorist implant in the heart of the ME can be laid bare with no "filter" whatsoever to pass the censors.
 
Of course the Zionist-infiltrated US government does. They even funded and enabled a genocide destroying the last vestiges of western moral authority over human rights and their own "international law".


TYT's etc are insignificant "allowed dissent" and even they have a filter as they accept the right of the entity to exist.

Tik-Tok is far more influential and reaches a much larger audience where the complete picture of the terrorist implant in the heart of the ME can be laid bare with no "filter" whatsoever to pass the censors.
Well, not all tik-tok are pro-Palestinian, Israeli also uses Tik Tok and as they say why the Supreme Court don't think this is inhibiting first amendment right is because if you have dissent (say US participation in Gaza Genocide) you can express it elsewhere, there are numerous other outlet for you to express it. So banning tik tok won't actually silent any dissent. Again, that's my original point.

On the other hand, as I said, this started at least since 2017, when Trump for his anti-China triad wanted to ban tik tok, this really have nothing to do with the war in gaza. It just took that this long to complete the ban, and that's because Tik Tok had been fighting its every move in court.


Also, I wouldn't say a 10 mil sub account on youtube is insignificant.
 
Of course the Zionist-infiltrated US government does. They even funded and enabled a genocide destroying the last vestiges of western moral authority over human rights and their own "international law".


TYT's etc are insignificant "allowed dissent" and even they have a filter as they accept the right of the entity to exist.

Tik-Tok is far more influential and reaches a much larger audience where the complete picture of the terrorist implant in the heart of the ME can be laid bare with no "filter" whatsoever to pass the censors.



But Facebook and Twitter are fine?

🤔Hmm I wonder why that is…

Those fit APAC moral and values, I meant American moral values.
 
The ban of TikTok in the United States is set to create a glaring hole in social media. For ByteDance, TikTok’s parent company in China, it also could create a glaring hole in its business.

The ban, which was signed into federal law last year and upheld by the Supreme Court on Friday, is a major blow to ByteDance, the world’s second-most valuable private technology company, worth $300 billion. At least a chunk of the company’s value is tied to its success in the United States, where TikTok has 170 million monthly users, according to analyst estimates.

TikTok has a larger audience outside the United States — it has 1.2 billion to 1.8 billion monthly users around the world, with its largest markets including Indonesia and Brazil — but the app’s American users are the most valuable, analysts said. TikTok makes money through ads, as well as by selling goods through its TikTok Shop, which pays influencers a commission to hawk beauty products, gadgets, clothes and other items. Social networks typically get their highest “revenue per user” in the United States.

“The U.S. market is the most profitable market of any market by a long shot,” said Mark Zgutowicz, an analyst at Benchmark Company. TikTok took in an estimated $10 billion in revenue in the United States last year, he said, out of a total global revenue estimated at $20 billion to $26 billion.

That is the fallout that ByteDance must grapple with now. The scale of its looming business conundrum is vast. While Facebook, Twitter and other social media were blocked in China around 15 years ago, that was before many of those apps had accumulated a large number of users there. Perhaps the closest equivalent is what TikTok experienced in India in 2020, when the Indian government banned the app. TikTok lost an audience of 200 million users there, but has since gained users elsewhere.

Whether TikTok may still escape a U.S. ban is unclear. President-elect Donald J. Trump is considering an executive order to allow TikTok to keep operating until new owners are found. He could also direct the Justice Department not to enforce the law, or delay enforcement for a set period.

TikTok did not respond to a request for comment. In court papers, it has said if it is banned, its U.S. business will be hurt. “Many current and would-be users and creators — both domestically and abroad — will migrate to competing platforms, and many will never return even if the ban is later lifted,” the company wrote.

ByteDance, which operates a family of apps in China and internationally, remains a business juggernaut even if TikTok’s ban in the United States goes ahead on Sunday, when the law takes effect. The company makes the biggest share of its revenue from another product, Douyin, a Chinese social media app. Including TikTok, ByteDance brought in roughly $73 billion in the first half of 2024, according to a person with knowledge of the company. The Informationearlier reported ByteDance’s revenue.

ByteDance, founded in 2012 by the entrepreneur Zhang Yiming and others, is backed by U.S. investors including Susquehanna Capital, which owns around 15 percent of the company. General Atlantic, Coatue Management, BlackRock and HongShan, the firm formerly known as Sequoia Capital China, have also invested in ByteDance.

TikTok’s ban in the United States will probably help its American competitors. As much as 85 percent of TikTok’s U.S. revenue is expected to quickly move to Instagram, which is owned by Meta, and YouTube, which is owned by Google, analysts and advertisers said. Both offer video services and programs to share commission on e-commerce sales or ads with their popular creators. When India cut off TikTok in 2020, Instagram and YouTube quickly filled the void.

“It’s very easy to take what you’re spending on TikTok and just shift it over to Meta and Google,” Mr. Zgutowicz said. The rest could be split up between smaller platforms like Snap and Pinterest, he added.

TikTok’s users and influencers may make a similar shift, even though other platforms do not offer the same algorithmic personalization that made TikTok so popular. Instagram’s Reels tends to reward creators with large followings, whereas TikTok’s algorithm lets relatively unknown creators find an audience. YouTube’s Shorts also focuses more on established creators.

“There are other platforms where we haven’t necessarily been focused, where we’re probably going to double down,” said Kristin Patrick, the chief marketing officer of the fashion company Marc Jacobs. She pointed to Instagram Reels, YouTube Shorts and, to a lesser extent, Pinterest. She added that the brand was “preparing for the worst” with TikTok.

A survey of TikTok users conducted late last year by the investment bank TD Cowen showed that, in the event of a ban, more than half of users said they would reallocate the time they spent on TikTok to YouTube or Instagram.

People who were spending hours a day on TikTok are “not just going to go away and replace that time with reading a book or something,” said John Blackledge, an analyst at TD Cowen. “They’re going to go to a platform. They’re going to find content.”

TikTok employees and executives have left the company ahead of the ban. TikTok had an estimated 17,000 people working in the United States as of late 2024, according to Live Data Technologies, which tracks employment and job changes. But as the ban loomed, turnover at the company jumped 38 percent in the second half of the year compared with 2023.

Some top TikTok executives, including its head of North American ad sales and the general manager of its U.S. agency business, recently left the company. Sandie Hawkins, TikTok’s head of ecommerce in the United States, exited in late 2023 to take a break from the company’s fast pace, she said. During the three and a half years she spent at the company, there was a recurring threat of TikTok being banned, she recalled.

“Anytime there was a news cycle, we would tell the team to focus on what was in your control,” Ms. Hawkins said.
In recent days, speculation has swirled that investors may step in with a last-ditch effort to buy TikTok and save it from a ban. The company has denied reports of deal discussions and said the Chinese government would forbid a sale.

The rumors and confusion echo 2020, when the first Trump administration issued an executive order to ban the app and then tried orchestrating a sale of the company to U.S. businesses. A cloud computing and e-commerce deal struck between TikTok, Walmart and Oracle and promoted by Mr. Trump ultimately failed to separate TikTok from its parent company.
Dude, your soldiers on aircraft carriers were seen uploading videos on a chinese social media app.

Your population is totally nuts, crying over a chinese-made app.
 
Tik-Tok caused so much heart-burn to the Zionists as young Americans saw what genocidal monsters they were.



I think because it’s not overly censored, they the establishment land of the free don’t want the truth to be known.
 
If the US Government were really serious about data protection they’d bring in stricter laws across the board , but this is really about helping out Jews , and Zuckerberg and the rest of the other US based social media figures….
 
I think because it’s not overly censored, they the establishment land of the free don’t want the truth to be known.


They wanted to ban it before the genocide as the US companies like Google and Meta could not compete with it.

They banned Huawei to save Apple iphone pretty much as it was offering much superior phones.

Complete losers but this will only make Bytedance/China stronger in the long run.
 
I think because it’s not overly censored, they the establishment land of the free don’t want the truth to be known.

dude, y'all said that without tik tok then the truth in Gaza would not be known.......Again, there are other platform you know, and one of a few successful platform for Palestinian voice is actually with YouTube. Plus there are equally, if not more, pro-Israeli accounts on them

And considering most tik tok user is those fame seeking unemployed gen Z er, they probably don't even know where Israel or Palestine was.....

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dude, y'all said that without tik tok then the truth in Gaza would not be known.......Again, there are other platform you know, and one of a few successful platform for Palestinian voice is actually with YouTube. Plus there are equally, if not more, pro-Israeli accounts on them

And considering most tik tok user is those fame seeking unemployed gen Z er, they probably don't even know where Israel or Palestine was.....

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What evidence is there of the ‘threat to national security?

Or is the so called threat certain types of information being posted on the platform? It was only a matter of time before US started to sensor a means of mass communication.
 
What evidence is there of the ‘threat to national security?

Or is the so called threat certain types of information being posted on the platform? It was only a matter of time before US started to sensor a means of mass communication.
Dude, I have said it before, this has nothing to do with national security. This decision is largely commercial.

The banning of Tik Tok were NEVER about data privacy or national security, because

A.) Banning it alone won't solve the issue, you need law to protect data privacy, US is the ONLY G7 countries don't have such law.

B.) Even if Tik Tok sales its asset to an American company, they can, AND WILL still be getting those data and will be eligible to sell them to anyone who wants it. It changes nothing.

The reason to ban Tik Tok is a commercial one, not because of data privacy or national security. It's either Google is sick of the unfair competition (Google cannot operate in China losing out a chunk of revenue) or Zucks and Musk et el wanted to buy it.

As a general rule, I don't use social media at all, if you don't want to have your detail stolen or sold, don't use them

Again, they want to take down Tik Tok back when Trump was president, they had an eye on it as early as 2017, and has been actually try to ban it since Trump was President last time. It take this long is because Tik Tok actually did all the appeal all the way to the US Supreme Court, they didn't just start banning it after Oct 7, 2023........It take YEARS for a case to go all the way to SCOTUS......You need to fight at the lower Federal District Court, then Circuit Court, then Appellate Court, then go to Supreme Court, each one of these could last a year or more. In fact it just take 5 years to ban tik tok considered quick, I mean Supreme Court didn't take Trump case up for 2 years, and they took Tik Tok case in 30 days.......
 
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Trump is going to free TikTok from app jail next week so what’s the big deal?
 
yeah it’s Chinese Ban it’s a load of crap like all social media.
 
Trump is going to free TikTok from app jail next week so what’s the big deal?
He is not......He have no power to do that, he can try and find a buyer for Tik Tok while suspending the bill, but the "take care clause" of the constitution require the president to execute the law passed legally by the Congress........


He can at most issue an executive order to stop the Justice Department from enforcing the ban for 90 or 180 days so they can continue to find a suitable buyer, but seeing SCOTUS just rolled out an opinion supporting the ban, this is not going to hold, and whether Tik Tok is okay to be sold is another issue, they had 9 months to sell it, if they want to sell it, it would have been sold already, it wouldn't need another 90 days.. that is if SCOTUS did support Trump argument........Which they don't in the last ruling on Friday.

The only way Tik Tok is out of US App jail is for the congress to pass another bill repealing that Foreign Interference bill........
 
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