United States elections 2024


What impact is Trump’s trial having on polls? Unclear or disgusting, depending on your politics​

Some are still open to a U.S. president as a possible inmate. Not sure how the Secret Service protects a president in prison, but shame on us if we find out​

By Jack Ohman May 15, 2024



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In a linear political universe we’re not currently living in, Donald Trump, the first former president to face a criminal trial, would not be the presumptive Republican presidential nominee if he were on trial for paying hush money to a porn star.
Alas, in this universe, Trump is leading in five swing states, more or less, in the latest New York Times/Siena College poll.
As former Trump lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen sets the table for 12 New York jurors while the former president fumes before him, often with his eyes closed, this dystopian courtroom drama plays out to a bitterly divided political audience. Half of American voters think it’s compelling and convincing, and the other half is either checked out, disbelieving or both.
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The Washington Post reported last week that a woman named Liz Crescibene has attended the Trump trial three times, and she doesn’t believe a word of it “because it’s a witch hunt.”
“How many trials can we have against Trump?” she asked plaintively. “They’re doing everything in their power because they want to get this man locked up. For what? I don’t know. I’m still waiting to see the evidence.”
Historically, “they” have these trials to present evidence and maintain the rule of law, and the evidence is pretty compelling, if you’re waiting to see it.
While Crescibene is probably a bit more enthusiastic than most in her Trump fealty, some voters are still open to the notion of a former president of the United States as a con and possible inmate. Not sure how the Secret Service protects a former president in a prison, but shame on this country if we find out.
According to the Times/Siena poll, Trump is ahead among registered voters in Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and Pennsylvania. These leads are all mostly within margin of error.
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Political analyst Simon Rosenberg, the new Democratic polling handholder for nervous Democrats, called the Times/Siena poll an outlier.
“I realize the NYT headline of their story is Trump leads in five states, but that’s not what the data in these polls say. He leads in three — AZ, GA, NV — and three are essentially tied,” Rosenberg wrote on Monday. Rosenberg notes that Biden is now leading in most national polls, particularly with likely voters. He has clear leads in Pennsylvania, which one poll showed at a 10-point gap. He’s also been consistently up in Wisconsin and Michigan for weeks.
So when the New York Times or the Washington Post slops out another survey to the media pigpen, we all roll around in it for a day on CNN, even if the presentation or the methodology is, shall we say, foggy. The electronic media loves to continue the narrative that President Joe Biden may lose. Eyeballs, you know.
Asking why there’s a single Republican who would continue to support Trump, a man in enormous legal jeopardy and not just in the Judge Juan Merchan’s chilly New York courtroom, is fruitless. The Trump voter lives on an astral plane that eludes logic. But I think a huge element of it plays into the Trump fanbase’s group delusion: Everyone and everything is rigged against the former president.
My favorite parlor game is What If This Was Obama’s Trial For Paying Off A Stripper? Hmm. I’ll take your wagers here. Cohen noted in testimony that Trump didn’t seem to be overly concerned with Melania Trump’s reaction. “How long do you think I’ll be on the market?” Trump said, according to Cohen, an odd reaction to the potential end of his marriage, to be sure.

True love.
As Cohen’s testimony continues, where he said Trump told him to “just do it,” the effect all this is having is, well, either unclear or disgusting, depending on your political viewpoint.
During President Richard Nixon’s impeachment process, one Republican elected official after another abandoned him, and really didn’t think a thing about it. Why? Because they followed the law and the Constitution. Trump? The Constitution is a speedbump, a trifle, an old joke from 1789 that impedes Trump’s wannabe dictatorial impulses. Who knows how the U.S. Constitution polls at this point?
Even his former attorney general, William Barr, blasted Trump for months and then, incredibly, has endorsed him, as has former Person of Integrity Gov. Chris Sununu of New Hampshire. Sununu, Nikki Haley’s former main national spokesman, has now said he would endorse Trump this fall.
In yet another surreal moment in this trial, House Speaker Mike Johnson, Ohio Sen. JD Vance, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, Florida Rep. Byron Donalds, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and other Trump coterie members attended the morning session to show moral (?) support. Not sure how this plays out in the national polls, but it only highlights the theater of the absurd the GOP has become. Weirdly, I got a push notification fundraising appeal from Speaker Johnson mere hours after he humiliated himself at the Trump trial. Oh. That’s why he went. Surprise.

Whether this trial moves the needle for Trump either way remains to be seen. Some polls suggest a conviction hurts Trump. Maybe, but most of his followers seem to be impenetrable to logic, facts or appearances. Johnson, a Christian, sticking up for a guy who is accused of hooking up with a porn star and paying her off while his pregnant wife sat at home? How does that play in Louisiana evangelical circles?
They don’t care. Let’s hope a significant number of persuadable swing voters do.
 

Trump’s surge in polls with Black voters stuns CNN analyst: ‘Truly historic’​

Support among Black voters could reach a decades-high margin for a Republican candidate, the analyst said​

By Kristine Parks Fox News
Published May 17, 2024 4:01pm EDT

Black voters flocking to Trump a 'troubling sign' for Biden campaign, analyst says

CNN's data analyst Harry Enten analyzed recent polling which found Biden's support among Black voters dwindling and Trump's support from Black voters surging.
Former President Trump's surge in the polls among Black voters is a "troubling sign" for the Biden campaign, a data reporter warned Friday.
Recent polling shows the former president could get a "historic" boost from Black voters in November if they continue to sour on President Biden, CNN data analyst Harry Enten reported.
"My goodness gracious," he said as he reacted to the polling average, which showed Trump's support among Black voters more than doubled to 22% compared to 2020. Biden, meanwhile, saw a 12% drop, though he still holds a 47-point lead.
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If this continued into November, Trump could win a larger share of Black voters than any Republican candidate since 1960, Enten said.
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CNN data reporter Harry Enten warned the Biden campaign was in trouble because of declining support from Black voters. (CNN/screenshot)
"This would be by far the best performance for a Republican candidate among Black voters in a generation, two generations, probably since 1960 and Richard Nixon against John F. Kennedy … This could be a truly historic margin," he said. "It’s quite a troubling sign for the Biden campaign."
However, there's a stark difference when factoring age. The polling average CNN cited showed 82% of Black voters 50 and older, but that dropped to 62% for voters under 50. Trump has support from 25% of Black voters from 18 to 49 — three times more than older voters.
BLACK VOTERS REJECTING BIDEN AS SUPPORT DWINDLES AHEAD OF 2024: ‘EVERYTHING WAS BETTER’ UNDER TRUMP
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Black voters across the U.S. spoke with Fox News Digital about the upcoming election.
"This is historic. This is what a lot of folks have been talking about, that Joe Biden has a specific problem among younger Black voters, and that is exactly what showing up right here," Enten said. "It‘s these younger Black voters who very much are turning on him and being much more supportive of Donald Trump than they were four years ago."
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A Washington Post-Ipsos poll from April found enthusiasm was down among Black voters and that fewer are expected to turn out this election.
The latest Fox News poll shows Biden receiving 72% support among Black voters. That’s up from 66% in February, but still a drop from his 79% before the 2020 election. Among all voters, Trump holds a narrow lead over Biden.
Fox News' Dana Blanton contributed to this article.
 

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“#1 Draft Pick” - Vivek Ramaswamy Reveals Plans For 2028 Presidential Run​


You’re all over this thread like a wumao.

Vivek may have a plan for 2028, but the republican electorate is probably not ready for a person of his ancestry, as Ann Coulter told him to his face.

In many ways, there are still enough in the electorate that think like this:

 
Vivek may have a plan for 2028, but the republican electorate is probably not ready for a person of his ancestry, as Ann Coulter told him to his face.

When I first saw that Ann Coulter bit telling Vivek to his face that she wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian, I wasn't shocked TBH because of what everyone knows about Ann Coulter and the insufferable racist pig that she is lmao.

But then I figured I would get more context of course before passing judgement and learned that she prefaced the comment by making it a point she agreed with Vivek's ideas during the debate even more than any of the other candidates and her issue was not just that he "was Indian", but apparently she has some guideline that only after 3 generations should an immigrant be allowed to be elected president lololol. Any other public office wouldn't be subject to the "Ann Coulter qualification guideline", just the presidency lmaaooo. What a bigot.

I guess you gotta give her some credit for being honest and even Vivek said he respected her honesty just didn't agree with it. The whole thing is hilarious and of course it goes way beyond the generational excuse since that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You're born in the United States you're an American period. The rest is purely character, record and policy views. That's the law so her twisted generational racist guideline is nothing but a purely racist point of view from an insufferable drag queen look-alike. 😅
 
When I first saw that Ann Coulter bit telling Vivek to his face that she wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian, I wasn't shocked TBH because of what everyone knows about Ann Coulter and the insufferable racist pig that she is lmao.

But then I figured I would get more context of course before passing judgement and learned that she prefaced the comment by making it a point she agreed with Vivek's ideas during the debate even more than any of the other candidates and her issue was not just that he "was Indian", but apparently she has some guideline that only after 3 generations should an immigrant be allowed to be elected president lololol. Any other public office wouldn't be subject to the "Ann Coulter qualification guideline", just the presidency lmaaooo. What a bigot.

I guess you gotta give her some credit for being honest and even Vivek said he respected her honesty just didn't agree with it. The whole thing is hilarious and of course it goes way beyond the generational excuse since that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You're born in the United States you're an American period. The rest is purely character, record and policy views. That's the law so her twisted generational racist guideline is nothing but a purely racist point of view from an insufferable drag queen look-alike. 😅
A fair number of republicans think like her, and not just amongst the older crowd. Obama had been raised by his white grandparents from Kansas to point to his WASP credentials (so for many republicans, they must of thought of him as an “Oreo”). Having met the man, before he was elected, he seemed genuinely polite to us students that waited hours to see him.
 
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