Unrest in AJK Update and Discussion

[Guru Dutt]

But when China came and beat your soldiers to death and took land you kind of just did nothing but spread fantasy bullshit

Munna chinese got what they desrved it just like they are reacting a police men who gets beaten up when he gose and asks for bribe but is beaten in return and keeps quite about it but his enemies disclose it

and we are already doing what chinese always did with us ... its not just chinese who know how to play strategic games ... remeber chess was invented in ancient hindu india

 

[hussain0216]

the feeling is mutual i myself do not belive in this aman ka tamashaa

Exactly,, this is why we need freedom and independence for the different people's of south Asia


What's the point of waking up and living alongside a enemy who you hate and who hates you

That's bad enough but if the state then becomes a hindutva extremist state and does not reflect your people in any way then for your own people's sake you need independence


It's not just a issue of economy or roads or anything but national character reflected in your country

I don't personally deny Hindus the right to worship, but I find Hinduism and every aspect of its culture revolting,, the last thing we need is to push people who hate each other into a unholy national union

 

[TopGun786]

no one can change history but sure in pakistan they have white washed it for what they did to hindus and sikhs in partition inundivided J&K , punjab , multan and sindh & whats now KPK and your thinking we will forget and forgive all that .. ya right

Guru seems a little embarrassed.
Embarrassment is a quality very rarely seen in Indians. I am a little amazed.
Keep spreading propaganda.

 

[Guru Dutt]

Exactly,, this is why we need freedom and independence for the different people's of south Asia


What's the point of waking up and living alongside a enemy who you hate and who hates you

That's bad enough but if the state then becomes a hindutva extremist state and does not reflect your people in any way then for your own people's sake you need independence


It's not just a issue of economy or roads or anything but national character reflected in your country

I don't personally deny Hindus the right to worship, but I find Hinduism and every aspect of its culture revolting,, the last thing we need is to push people who hate each other into a unholy national union

well no one cares in world today what pakistanies think about India but every one cares what and how India wants trade relations and scio-political relations with them

then be it British or be it French or be it Germans or Polls or Belgians or Swedes or Jews or Japnese or Koreans or Russians or Arabs or maslaians or Indonasians or for that matter Americans or latin americans they all are investing there big money in india and want to be part of growth story that is India and thats lareglly based on so called right wing nationalist Hindu phylosophy

so we dont really care about Pakistan or Pakistanies or for that matter what they say in international press or what international press says about india

cause as they say in hindi

kutton ke bhaunknne se hathee sarak per chalan nahi chorr deta

 

[hussain0216]

well no one cares in world today what pakistanies think about India but every one cares what and how India wants trade relations and scio-political relations with them

then be it British or be it French or be it Germans or Polls or Belgians or Swedes or Jews or Japnese or Koreans or Russians or Arabs or maslaians or Indonasians or for that matter Americans or latin americans they all are investing there big money in india and want to be part of growth story that is India and thats lareglly based on so called right wing nationalist Hindu phylosophy

so we dont really care about Pakistan or Pakistanies or for that matter what they say in international press or what international press says about india

cause as they say in hindi

kutton ke bhaunknne se hathee sarak per chalan nahi chorr deta

Economy goes up and down, Pakistan has been better in most indicators then India over the majority of the last 75 years again and will be so again


India is already a communal shit hole, this election season proves the point, go look at the hate filled mess in India

Indians are economically boycotting each other and moving to their own areas, the start of partition has started again

 

[TopGun786]

well no one cares in world today what pakistanies think about India but every one cares what and how India wants trade relations and scio-political relations with them

then be it British or be it French or be it Germans or Polls or Belgians or Swedes or Jews or Japnese or Koreans or Russians or Arabs or maslaians or Indonasians or for that matter Americans or latin americans they all are investing there big money in india and want to be part of growth story that is India and thats lareglly based on so called right wing nationalist Hindu phylosophy

so we dont really care about Pakistan or Pakistanies or for that matter what they say in international press or what international press says about india

cause as they say in hindi

kutton ke bhaunknne se hathee sarak per chalan nahi chorr deta

Guru's language says guru is now extremely desperate.
After losing arguments Guru is now trying to compensate by using troll words and personal attacks.

 

[Musings]

well no one cares in world today what pakistanies think about India but every one cares what and how India wants trade relations and scio-political relations with them

then be it British or be it French or be it Germans or Polls or Belgians or Swedes or Jews or Japnese or Koreans or Russians or Arabs or maslaians or Indonasians or for that matter Americans or latin americans they all are investing there big money in india and want to be part of growth story that is India and thats lareglly based on so called right wing nationalist Hindu phylosophy

so we dont really care about Pakistan or Pakistanies or for that matter what they say in international press or what international press says about india

cause as they say in hindi

kutton ke bhaunknne se hathee sarak per chalan nahi chorr deta

You don’t care about Pakistan or Pakistanis? Then why are you on here 24/7 with your obsessive disorder?
You are sniffing every Pakistan rectum on here - yet you don’t care about them. Fascinating.
Things are and will calm down so little 1.5 metre chest thumping Indians like you can rest again and stop foaming at the mouth.

 

[Waz]

Sir with deu respect to Gandhi Jee

he kept quite when muslim killed almost 10000 hindus in kerala in mopala masecerre in early part of 1921-22 against there anger where british decssimated Usmania khaliphet

Gandhi Jee kept quite when muslim mocket Hindu scriptures Like Bhagwat Geeta and Ramayan and wrote articles and spread leaflets in 1930 in all mosques across india heading Krishna teri geeta janai paregi but when Hindus retaliated by writting a book called "rangille rasool" in lahore Gandhi was first one to raise voice against it

Gandhi jee kept quite when Jinna and Shahid shourwardee orchestrated direct action day in calcutta on 16th august 1946 when muslim mobs butecherred hindus in calcutta but came out asking for peace when Hindu butchers retaliated by doing to muslims what muslims were doing to hindus that stopped all demands of making calcutta part of east pakistan

Gandhi jee kept quite when muslim were massecerring hindus in lakhs in Navakhalli but when hindus started doing the same to urdu speaking muslims in Bihar Gandhi ji sat on aamaran anshan/fast onto death

and after partition he himself said if muslim want to kll hindus hindus should not retaliate .... why ... NON VOILENCE dose not means cowerdice and thats why most hindus of new india dont like Gandhi ji and his once sided principle of NON VOILENCE and BHAICHARRA

this is new India and if you slap on one cheep we will break your neck or make your suffering so intence that your genrations wont think of doing what you did in past and there will be no mercy or forgiveness forget about remose

Gandhi also said this;

"There is no doubt in my mind that in the majority of quarrels the Hindus come out second best. But my own experience confirms the opinion that the Mussalman as a rule is a bully, and the Hindu as a rule is a coward. I have noticed this in railway trains, on public roads, and in the quarrels which I had the privilege of settling. Need the Hindu blame the Mussalman for his cowardice? Where there are cowards, there will always be bullies. They say that in Saharanpur the Mussalmans looted houses, broke open safes and, in one case, a Hindu woman's modesty was outraged. Whose fault was this? Mussalmans can offer no defence for the execrable conduct, it is true. But I, as a Hindu, am more ashamed of Hindu cowardice than I am angry at the Mussalman bullying. Why did not the owners of the houses looted die in the attempt to defend their possessions? Where were the relatives of the outraged sister at the time of the outrage? Have they no account to render of themselves? My non-violence does not admit of running away from danger and leaving dear ones unprotected. Between violence and cowardly flight, I can only prefer violence to cowardice."[1]

[1] "Hindu-Muslim Tension: Its Cause and Cure", Young India, 29/5/1924; reproduced in M.K. Gandhi: The Hindu-Muslim Unity, p.35-36.

 

[Pak Defender]

AJK Update: So here is the speech of Touqeer Gillani (Zonal President JKLF) in Muzaffarabad on 14th May 2024. He is inciting people for standing up for Independence of Kashmir from Pakistan and from "NaPak Fauj" instead of subsidies on flour & electricity as claimed by AAC. Insulting Pakistan and Pakistanis at the same go.

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[Waz]

AJK Update: So here is the speech of Touqeer Gillani (Zonal President JKLF) in Muzaffarabad on 14th May 2024. He is inciting people for standing up for Independence of Kashmir from Pakistan and from "NaPak Fauj" instead of subsidies on flour & electricity as claimed by AAC. Insulting Pakistan and Pakistanis at the same go.

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Such people need to have platforms taken away from them. The last time JKLF pipped up the people put them down, but they have always lingered.
The question of being part of Pakistan is not on the table and never has been. A revolt in the 50's and 60's was quelled by members of my elder generation, thankfully arms did not have to be used.
These people are a minority and in the video no one was cheering them.

Here is the proof my beloved grandmother gave me when I asked once if the Kashmiri nationalists were right in their demands.

And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you (Surah Imran 3:103)

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Calling for more division of Muslims is the opposite of our faith. Pakistan needs to remain strong and united.

 

[Cash gk]

Imran about Kashmir
Founding Chairman Imran Khan’s message from jail (13.05.2024)1- It is the misfortune of this country that a self-proclaimed King has taken hold of all the decision making. When the government is given to people lacking democratic mandate, the country becomes an epicentre of corruption and chaos. The chaos that is seen in Kashmir today is likely to spread across Pakistan. Form 47 non-democratic governments have been established in the entire country. When a government is elected democratically, it is backed by the people. People value their elected government and if any issues arises, it is resolved through dialogue. On the contrary, people place no trust in the imposed governments in Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Kashmir, Punjab and Pakistan; hence the widespread unrest and frustration. Further backlash will ensue against Form 47 governments when the budget is announced. Unfortunately, an artificial set-up has been imposed on the people in the country. Caretaker Prime Minister Kakar and Commissioner of Rawalpindi have exposed the true nature of this government. This government has absolutely no authority. An unconstitutional institution like SIFC has been imposed on Pakistan and no one dares to question. It was established with the sole purpose of bringing investments, while the Pakistan Business Council has openly stated that investors are withdrawing their investments instead of investing into the country. On the one hand, the nation was misled with the false hopes of the agricultural revolution and on the other hand, wheat importation to embezzle billions of rupees, has devastated the wheat farmer economically.In this bogus setup, the government is given to those who have all their wealth lying outside in the form of dollars. A leader has to make sacrifices and this group of Nawaz and Zardari will not sacrifice under any circumstances nor will they bring their money back to the country. General Musharraf and later ISI provided details to everyone including me on their looted money and today they have been imposed on us and their corruption charges are being cleared. The purpose of imposing this fake system on the nation is only to increase the power of this one man who has destroyed the entire country for his personal power. The Hamudur Rahman Commission report had made it clear how one man, Yahya Khan, allowed the country to break up to increase his personal power. Every citizen should study the Hamudur Rahman Commission Report and get to know who was the traitor between Yahya Khan and Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. I am currently in prison because if I am free, it will challenge the power of that one person.The way the chairman of Pakistan's largest political party and Pakistan's most awarded person was abducted from the High Court on May 9 morning was meant to provoke the people. Despite the video I posted that morning, clearly stating my willingness to cooperate if presented with an arrest warrant, the humiliating abduction was carried out without regard for this request. Prior to 9th May, on 25th May 2022, 3rd November 2022, 8th March 2023, 14th March 2023 and 18th March 2023, attempts were made to target me through brutal use of force against my party, however I and my party remained completely peaceful and continued to advance our legitimate and legal political struggle within the framework of the constitution and law.DG ISPR and Chief of Army Staff are making threatening political statements and involving the army in politics which is tarnishing the image of the army. When political statements and press conferences are held, political parties have the right to respond to them. On the morning of May 9, my illegal abduction from the High Court was part of the London Plan, for which General Asim Munir should apologise to me.

 

[PakAl]

AJK Update: So here is the speech of Touqeer Gillani (Zonal President JKLF) in Muzaffarabad on 14th May 2024. He is inciting people for standing up for Independence of Kashmir from Pakistan and from "NaPak Fauj" instead of subsidies on flour & electricity as claimed by AAC. Insulting Pakistan and Pakistanis at the same go.

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Kashmiri nationalists always try to get involved, we are not extremist that we will kick them of the stage, let them share their opinions. His statements is childish, why doesn't he man up and go fight India. The issue is the nationalist know Pakistan government and military don't care about Kashmir anymore so they all peed off, they also know how nationalist movements were targetted by Pak agencies, instead extremist LT and co were funded for replacement.

These protests were called by Joint Action Committe but the protesters included people from all part of Kashmir, ppp voters, pmln voters, Muslim conference voters, pti voters, including the nationalist who hardly vote. The protest have been called off, everyone will go home and this jklf guy will be on his own

 

[SaadH]

Exactly,

The protest was about inflation, subsidies and demand of people from their local government but some people trying to manoeuvre it into Army vs AJK. That’s shameful if they are doing it as a Pakistani

It's not about Army vs AJK specifically but it is certainly Army vs The People.

Army is singularly responsible for the current predicament in the country, installing convicted thugs and looters who have decades long rap sheet of looting and are repeating their thievery in broad day light in cahoots with the Army, while the people are starving and suffering throughout the length and breadth of the country.

AJK has taken the lead against Army's continued mockery of their aspirations and economic misery.

 

[SaadH]

Maybe Nawaz Sharif understood correctly that to fix Pakistan’s “pipe leak”, peace with India is necessary to move out of this bunker state condition.

India doesn't want and has never wanted peace with Pakistan...

India is only relevant to what's happening internally in Pakistan so far as they and military establishment now have a symbiotic relationship...

Sharif should have directed his focus from day one at dismantling the albatross, i.e. the military establishment which has kept the country backward and yet itself has prospered in the process. But how could he have done so when he himself came out of their nursery.

 

[prothought]

Imran about Kashmir
Founding Chairman Imran Khan’s message from jail (13.05.2024)1- It is the misfortune of this country that a self-proclaimed King has taken hold of all the decision making. When the government is given to people lacking democratic mandate, the country becomes an epicentre of corruption and chaos. The chaos that is seen in Kashmir today is likely to spread across Pakistan. Form 47 non-democratic governments have been established in the entire country. When a government is elected democratically, it is backed by the people. People value their elected government and if any issues arises, it is resolved through dialogue. On the contrary, people place no trust in the imposed governments in Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Kashmir, Punjab and Pakistan; hence the widespread unrest and frustration. Further backlash will ensue against Form 47 governments when the budget is announced. Unfortunately, an artificial set-up has been imposed on the people in the country. Caretaker Prime Minister Kakar and Commissioner of Rawalpindi have exposed the true nature of this government. This government has absolutely no authority. An unconstitutional institution like SIFC has been imposed on Pakistan and no one dares to question. It was established with the sole purpose of bringing investments, while the Pakistan Business Council has openly stated that investors are withdrawing their investments instead of investing into the country. On the one hand, the nation was misled with the false hopes of the agricultural revolution and on the other hand, wheat importation to embezzle billions of rupees, has devastated the wheat farmer economically.In this bogus setup, the government is given to those who have all their wealth lying outside in the form of dollars. A leader has to make sacrifices and this group of Nawaz and Zardari will not sacrifice under any circumstances nor will they bring their money back to the country. General Musharraf and later ISI provided details to everyone including me on their looted money and today they have been imposed on us and their corruption charges are being cleared. The purpose of imposing this fake system on the nation is only to increase the power of this one man who has destroyed the entire country for his personal power. The Hamudur Rahman Commission report had made it clear how one man, Yahya Khan, allowed the country to break up to increase his personal power. Every citizen should study the Hamudur Rahman Commission Report and get to know who was the traitor between Yahya Khan and Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. I am currently in prison because if I am free, it will challenge the power of that one person.The way the chairman of Pakistan's largest political party and Pakistan's most awarded person was abducted from the High Court on May 9 morning was meant to provoke the people. Despite the video I posted that morning, clearly stating my willingness to cooperate if presented with an arrest warrant, the humiliating abduction was carried out without regard for this request. Prior to 9th May, on 25th May 2022, 3rd November 2022, 8th March 2023, 14th March 2023 and 18th March 2023, attempts were made to target me through brutal use of force against my party, however I and my party remained completely peaceful and continued to advance our legitimate and legal political struggle within the framework of the constitution and law.DG ISPR and Chief of Army Staff are making threatening political statements and involving the army in politics which is tarnishing the image of the army. When political statements and press conferences are held, political parties have the right to respond to them. On the morning of May 9, my illegal abduction from the High Court was part of the London Plan, for which General Asim Munir should apologise to me.

Summarize please. What a convicted criminal might have to say about Kashmir. I assume this sick-minded criminal must have talked about the doom’s day for Pakistan. I have never heard anything positive about Pakistan from this lanati. If he has talked the same shit then no need to summarize it.