Unrest in AJK Update and Discussion

[Signalian]

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LEA are not choochay that they get dragged multiple times into the same trick.

The expected firing on crowds as was claimed- didnt come into effect. PTI's propaganda failed. Like I said, IK's strategy is faulty and old.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

Pakistan Azad Kashmir produces 3000MW

And in the next decade it'll reach upwards of 10k
Not a single penny from AJK's would go towards building of those dams nor it's upkeep nor it's infrastructure

But according to the nationalist they want to take over the dams as AJK property not federal
Why? Kis khushi mein?

electricity and their own requirement is just 300MW

And? When summer season ends they'll have to pay extra to Sindh, Punjab for electricity as after summer they'll be net dependent on imported, coal, nuclear energy
When you can't see beyond your backside this is the kinda perspectives we start forming (not you as a person as it sounds like a harsh example but the whole argument slash demands are just localized perspective of things without the big picture that's why my example don't take it personally please)

and still they are imposing heavy taxes on them

First of all 70% of AJKians don't even pay their bills so like what are we even arguing about
And these taxes are imposed all over the country to coverup energy inefficiencies not one region specifically

They just think they deserve carrots not sticks like the rest of the crew

and this whole chaos is just because of it. Kashmiris are asking for their rights here.

No it's because these are delusions not "rights"

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And Punjab mafia is stealing timber from Kashmir no payment given to AJK

AJK Mafia, politicians stealing own timber resources and later selling them to Punjabs.mafia who use it for domestic consumption

But jab Zindagi mein Iis qom ne self accountability nahi sikhi to ab Kya seekho gai
First American than jew than Hindu, than it became Punjabi and in provinces ethnic minority blaming everything on ethnic majority

Everyone but not your own selves

Gov shall we pretend this is none issue too on here.

 

[Signalian]

I am not labelling it a revolution anyway but the whole country is getting run on thuggery anyway. A stolen mandate, a dysfunctional constitution, etc so why bother an undemocratic protest? AJK PM has no public mandate. It is another ISI job. Let me find the clip for you.

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People protest and police use force, things get under control, Punjab Police Zindabaad or out of control then the police get beaten by SSG, hermaphrodites (khusray), public, etc

All becasue the people in power are devoid of public sentiments and they are not 'elected' by them but get installed by agencies.

Not all issues, circumstances and scenarios run through a single default method of solution -meaning- one solution for all is never in effect, which is what you are trying to show. No two commanders think alike, nor do two politicians, nor are the same forces present always to conduct the same repeated action every time. Even if COAS is one, PM is one - the timing, the circumstances, the solutions etc are never the same, which means the way of doing things will always differ.

You mentioned ISI - if you know well of ISI doing the job, then you should have known about what I mentioned in the above para already, but your source of info is media on which you conduct your analysis. You cant have access to many things and I don't find that appalling at all. You are just one of the millions.

 

[EternalMortal]

Cartoon vs reality



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"cartoon vs reality"

the actual shameful reality :


aukaat dekho apni.

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[clutch]

Kashmir, KPK, GB, Baluchistan all are slipping from hands.

Well sooner or later.... you always get what you deserve in this world

 

[hussain0216]

And in the next decade it'll reach upwards of 10k
Not a single penny from AJK's would go towards building of those dams nor it's upkeep nor it's infrastructure

But according to the nationalist they want to take over the dams as AJK property not federal
Why?

And? When summer season ends they'll have to pay extra to Sindh, Punjab for electricity as after summer they'll be net dependent on imported, coal, nuclear energy



First of all 70% of AJKians don't even pay their bills so like what are we even arguing about
And these taxes are imposed all over the country to coverup energy inefficiencies not one region specifically

They just think they deserve carrots not sticks like the rest of the crew

No it's because these are delusions not "rights"

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AJK Mafia, politicians stealing own timber resources and later selling them to Punjabs.mafia who use it for domestic consuption

But jab Zindagi mein Iis qom ne self accountability nahi sikhi to ab Kya seekho gai
First American than jew than Hindu, than it became Punjabi and in provinces ethnic minority blaming everything on ethnic majority

Bingo , exactly right


And if you look into the situation this is the issue


Rather then these crazy region to region subsidies rife for corruption and blackmail we need CONSTANT LAWS for all Pakistani that treat us equally

Agreements must of course be met, but the general economic conditions must be understood

Subsidies were killing Pakistan, for a population that big it's not feasible for the government with limited funds to fund basics
What we need is economic reform and end of corruption


To make matters worst, a big chunk of people don't pay bills, electricity or otherwise making the situation worse


Pakistan has multiple dams, and other power projects coming online soon,
The transmission structure needs to be improved
Now is not the time to bend to blackmail of regional jahilat for freebies and subsidies when a big chunk of idiots don't even pay bills

 

[clutch]

Really mixed emotions

There is happiness , how people have beaten up police
There is sadness as sad affair of country
There is shock - why it took so long for it to happen
There is sense of relief police is being "dis-armed" and pushed back
There is shock , some people still want to celebrate "Moon mission"

For me all the images reappeared in my mind, when Police was beating up Zile Shah , the disabled man and killing him , and how women were beaten up and put in police vans for last 2 years.

I reversed the video clip again and re-watched the people beating up the police 1 more time

I enjoyed that beating given to police

Police = Majboor hoti hai , uper se order ata hai

I will rewatch the beat down again later in night with a nice soda drink in hand with ice


Meri bhi Majboori hai , I reversed and rewatched the beating
but I was sad as well for what is happening in Pakistan

But this is needed!!!

Pakistan Fauj has been converted into Punjab Police.

 

[IceCold]

Bangladesh was bound to happen

No it wasn't bound to happen if Mujeeb had been given his right to form the government, instead army installed a government who lost the elections, similarly what they are doing today.

 

[Signalian]

IKs Afghanistan and Taliban is #1 reason that I see the crackdown as justified and everyone should

In fact fauj should put this story into public space once the military operations against TTP intensify.

Only way these youthiyas will open their ears is when TTP is knocking on their doors like not too long ago

There are more important things

I dont feel like posting on intel Ops and how things go on in the spy world. But many things that are captured on cams, posted on 'X', going viral and then discussed about are not what they seem like.

The public and the journalists assess those according to the capacity of their brains and exposure - which maybe far from the truth. I can give an example of exposure. Journalists post whats happening inside GHQ, what decisions are made in HQs.
Tell me honestly, you think these journalists are given free access inside GHQ and meetings ? NO. But they post online and every dumb tom dick harry Pakistani starts making it viral, even when its false news. Its not even reality.

I sometimes feel that is such false propaganda news (anti-military) spread on purpose (mis leading) because honestly people discuss it with such a legitimate interest as deen-dar people discuss ayats of koran. A black vigo, an officer involved into something illegal - you honestly think that Intel agencies dont know ? they cant cover up ? Really mate.

You know, I can post 10 x anti military memes everyday as topics on PDF. Cash Gk will look a sloth then infront of my threads. But ask Panzerkiel even, ask anyone who had been closely knit with military, in first glance you can tell what splendid BS has someone crafted. You can easily pick errors and mistakes. How desperately someone is trying to connect dots. Such false propaganda news is analyzed through professional tools by intel agencies and rubbished. But PDF will discuss it as a new well found deserved trophy. Like someone struck gold. This is pathetic to the core. This may mean -that PDF will take the form of a propaganda tool. You could look at posts and tell the person knows all wat has been brain-fed to him. He is following some sort of an agenda then and cannot make a rational conversation. The analysis cannot be done unless the person has grasp of knowledge of at least one - pro or con.
Another example - all good that happened in IK tenure was done by IK, all bad that happened in IK's tenure was done by Bajwa- but isnt military in 100% control and doing everything since 75 years ? how is this even logical !!!! All IK's achievements couldn't have seen the face of realty without Bajwa's approval.

 

[IceCold]

There are more important things

I dont feel like posting on intel Ops and how things go on in the spy world. But many things that are captured on cams, posted on 'X', going viral and then discussed about are not what they seem like.

The public and the journalists assess those according to the capacity of their brains and exposure - which maybe far from the truth. I can give an example of exposure. Journalists post whats happening inside GHQ, what decisions are made in HQs.
Tell me honestly, you think these journalists are given free access ? NO. But they post online and every dumb tom dick harry Pakistani starts making it viral, even when its false news. Its not even reality.

I sometimes feel that is such false propaganda news (anti-military) spread on purpose (mis leading) because honestly people discuss it with such a legitimate interest as deen-dar people discuss ayats of koran. A black vigo, an officer involved into something illegal - you honestly think that Intel agencies dont know ? they cant cover up ? Really mate.

You know, I can post 10 x anti military memes everyday as topics on PDF. Cash Gk will look a sloth then infront of my threads. But ask Panzerkiel even, ask anyone who had been closely knit with military, in first glance you can tell what splendid BS has someone crafted. You can easily pick errors and mistakes. How desperately someone is trying to connect dots. Such false propaganda news is analyzed through professional tools by intel agencies and rubbished. But PDF will discuss it as a new well found deserved trophy. Like someone struck gold. This is pathetic to the core. This may mean -that PDF will take the form of a propaganda tool. You could look at posts and tell the person knows all wat has been brain-fed to him. He is following some sort of an agenda then and cannot make a rational conversation. The analysis cannot be done unless the person has grasp of knowledge of at least one - pro or con.
Another example - all good that happened in IK tenure was done by IK, all bad that happened in IK's tenure was done by Bajwa- but isnt military in 100% control and doing everything since 75 years ? how is this even logical !!!! All IK's achievements couldn't have seen the face of realty without Bajwa's approval.

Instead of writing such lengthy BS just answer 1 simple question, why is the military hell bent on imposing people who lost the election. People have given Khan and PTI mandate, who gave this dharti ka bhauj fauj the right to throw public opinion aside and do what they have always been doing. Wasn't 71 enough for your greed?

 

[Signalian]

Pakistan Fauj has been converted into Punjab Police.

Look at this clown now.

I know clutch since mid-2000's on the very old PDF. Back then his one liners were against India, then his one liners turned against USA as WOT intensified inside Pakistan, then they turned against Israelis/jews and now his one liners are against Pakistani military.

Feed this clown from media and he will deliver.

 

[Signalian]

Instead of writing such lengthy BS just answer 1 simple question, why is the military hell bent on imposing people who lost the election. People have given Khan and PTI mandate, who gave this dharti ka bhauj fauj the right to throw public opinion aside and do what they have always been doing. Wasn't 71 enough for your greed?

Another example. Man cant digest reality so calls it BS. This is what i have said, unless the brain fed media is cleared from minds, these dull rusting minds cant grasp other povs.

 

[Signalian]

@CynicalPakistaniCritic

You see they just constantly prove me correct
Its worrying.

 

[clutch]

Look at this clown now.

I know clutch since mid-2000's on the very old PDF. Back then his one liners were against India, then his one liners turned against USA as WOT intensified inside Pakistan, then they turned against Israelis/jews and now his one liners are against Pakistani military.

Feed this clown from media and he will deliver.

100% correct. Except for I have always been anti-Zionist.

 

[Signalian]

100% correct. Except for I have always been anti-Zionist.

Agreed, I remember.