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Details Of Fire On US Navy's Largest Carrier Much Worse Than Previously Known​

There was chaos aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford after a major onboard fire knocked out a big swathe of living quarters, leaving hundreds of US sailors without beds in the middle of a live war deployment, in what marks a much bigger incident than what the Pentagon previously disclosed

The fire occurred last week, raising immediate questions of whether it was hit by an Iranian drone or missile attack, as Tehran has claimed, amid Pentagon insistence that it was none of these - but just an accidental fire.

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Already the crew and ship are strained to their limits, given the carrier is on its way to achieving a record deployment, entering ten months. The crew has reportedly been informed that they will be deployed into May, which would make an entire year at sea, after the prior Caribbean deployment focused on the Venezuela anti-Maduro operation.

The NY Times says this marks twice the length of a normal carrier deployment - one wrought with extreme difficulties and a major emergency, as the report details:

It took more than 30 hours for sailors to put out the fire aboard the aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford last week, sailors and military officials said, as the beleaguered ship continued its monthslong slog through President Trump’s military operations.

The fire started in the ship’s main laundry area last Thursday. By the time it was over, more than 600 sailors and crew members had lost their beds and have since been bunking down on floors and tables, officials said.

The U.S. military’s Central Command said two sailors received treatment for “non-life-threatening injuries.” People on the ship reported that dozens of service members suffered smoke inhalation.
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CENTCOM has said that the fire caused "no damage to the ship’s propulsion plant, and the aircraft carrier remains fully operational."

The nuclear-powered vessel has indeed been running around the clock fighter jet operations connected to Operation Epic Fury, amid ongoing heavy aerial bombardment of Iranian cities.

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جوبا said:
Initially there was a semblance of order to the strikes where only military targets were being hit.
There is a popular theory of a difference of opinion between the civilian leadership and IRGC on how to handle the conflict, it could be possible that the IRGC is doing stuff against the wishes of the FM and PM
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TBT, with the death the Ayatollah the senior, I was wondering if the IRGC could be operating independently.
 
Davey Crockett said:

Details Of Fire On US Navy's Largest Carrier Much Worse Than Previously Known​

There was chaos aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford after a major onboard fire knocked out a big swathe of living quarters, leaving hundreds of US sailors without beds in the middle of a live war deployment, in what marks a much bigger incident than what the Pentagon previously disclosed

The fire occurred last week, raising immediate questions of whether it was hit by an Iranian drone or missile attack, as Tehran has claimed, amid Pentagon insistence that it was none of these - but just an accidental fire.

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Already the crew and ship are strained to their limits, given the carrier is on its way to achieving a record deployment, entering ten months. The crew has reportedly been informed that they will be deployed into May, which would make an entire year at sea, after the prior Caribbean deployment focused on the Venezuela anti-Maduro operation.

The NY Times says this marks twice the length of a normal carrier deployment - one wrought with extreme difficulties and a major emergency, as the report details:


CENTCOM has said that the fire caused "no damage to the ship’s propulsion plant, and the aircraft carrier remains fully operational."

The nuclear-powered vessel has indeed been running around the clock fighter jet operations connected to Operation Epic Fury, amid ongoing heavy aerial bombardment of Iranian cities.

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Usually, I take just about everything written by Tyler Durden with a grain of salt. In this case, in an active warzone, there are lots of questions.

The last US carrier fires were in 1966 (USS Oriskany), 1967 (USS Forrestal), and 1969 (USS Enterprise). The Oriskany and Forrestal fires were off the coast of Vietnam. The Enterprise incident was in Hawaiian waters.
 
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No one anticipated that Iran would lash out at neighboring countries like it does now. This possibility never appeared in any scenario. This is your point of view.

The United States and Israel attacked Iran, and Iran has the right to exercise self-defense. Iran cannot attack the U.S. mainland, so these military bases used to strike Iran inevitably had to be attacked. Can the U.S. military officials not foresee these matters? What exactly did they learn in military school?

You ignore the cause of this issue and emphasize that Iran attacked other countries.

The cause of this matter is the military bases that the United States established in these countries. The U.S. first used these military bases to attack Iran. The reason other countries were attacked is the United States; the U.S. should have intercepted these missiles or drones, but it did not. The U.S. focused its defense on Israel.

The sovereignty and security of any country should be respected. Apart from the United States and Israel, other countries have the right to condemn the U.S. and Israel for attacking Iran, and they also need to condemn Iran for attacking non-military targets in countries other than Israel. Iran should not expand its strike targets.

If one only blames Iran without condemning the aggressions of the U.S. and Israel, this behavior is a double standard.

The truth is, if the United States and Israel had not attacked Iran, Iran would not have attacked other countries.
 
You've admitted to part of the problem: Iran striking targets in those countries that are not US military facilities.

Iran is striking at them for hosting the US bases. Do you consider that a justifiable action?
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
You've admitted to part of the problem: Iran striking targets in those countries that are not US military facilities.

Iran is striking at them for hosting the US bases. Do you consider that a justifiable action?
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Yes. I think a country allowing another country to use its territory should be considered a combatant nation. I think if Ukraine had the offensive weapons it has now at the start of the war they would have hit Belarus
 
Meengla said:
You are still 'spinning' it. What matters is the perception and Joe Kent's resignation -
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We're clearly thinking on different levels here. Kent is a clear antisemite but he's devoted years to serving his country. I don't think he would have resigned had terror-from-Iranian-mullahs been a present concern. Which means I don't have to worry so much for personal or family safety near my synagogue, Jewish schools, etc.

You, of course, don't have such concerns. It's not like Jewish or Christian extremists have threatened you or your community with bombs, murder, etc. You're forgetting that there are civilians who have such worries.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
TBT, with the death the Ayatollah the senior, I was wondering if the IRGC could be operating independently.
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I spoke too soon, I have to eat my words.

Iran said US and Israeli airstrikes hit its South Pars gas field and nearby infrastructure, according to state TV. It added that oil and petrochemical facilities in nearby Asaluyeh were also attacked.Both Iranian state television and the state-run IRNA news agency reported on the attack targeting facilities at Asaluyeh in Iran's southern Bushehr province. It did not immediately elaborate.
"Moments ago, parts of the gas facilities located in the South Pars Special Economic Energy Zone in Asaluyeh were struck by projectiles fired by the American-Zionist enemy," state television reported, citing Ehsan Jahanian, the deputy governor of the southern Bushehr province, where the facility is located.
An attack, if confirmed, would mark the first time Iran’s upstream oil and gas facilities have been targeted in this war.

Source:Bloomberg
 
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Energy headlines summary:

  • Iran says upstream oil and gas assets are under attack for first time since war began
  • Iraq reroutes some flows through Ceyhan Pipeline to Turkey
  • Hormuz traffic remains de-minimus
  • Iran reiterates new rules in place for Hormuz transit
  • "The blockade is now the worst disruption to oil flows ever. Real barrels are now disappearing from global oil markets, which can lead to demand destruction in the weeks to come."

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