US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War
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F-22Raptor
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The Ford carrier group is now heading back to war and ready for full mission tasking after 5 days of repairs
Open letter to the American people from the President Of Iran. Sounds like he wants us to make it stop - not that we could even if we wanted to.
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Iranian President Pens Open Letter to American People - AOL
The leader appealed to the American public to “look beyond” what he characterized as “the machinery of misinformation” amid the war in his country.
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F-22Raptor
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The USN is doing just fine striking Iran. It doesn’t need to be closer if it can carry out its tasks.
- 1 destroyed KC-135 and one damaged in an accident over Iraq
- 5 KC-135 damaged in an early strike on PSAB. 4 of the 5 have returned to flight per Pres Trump
- 1 destroyed KC-135 in the March 27 strike on PSAB with another possibly damaged
These are minimal losses. The USAF has 355-370 operational KC-135s and another 100+ KC-46.
This campaign will go down as the most dominant air/naval campaign in modern history. The US has carried out 13,000 combat sorties and Iran has only managed 1 damaged F-35 that made it back to base.
lightning f57
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You still huffing and puffing after bombing schools, hospitals, bridges against a country with no airforce or navy.
Trumpy and his band of terrormen are heading for a grand strategic defeat, you going to struggle to cope with that so start early.
KingQamaR
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These are public known losses The real losses are certainly higher. Your most advanced US aircraft carrier , it ran away . Sorry I meant “laundry” fire
. It will however , be out of commission for multiple months due to extensive damage it is a complete embarrassment for the US Navy regardless. There are pictures on videos YT with carrier entering in a port in Croatia. “lol nah” right Also the 2nd Carrier was a few days ago 1000km south in a port in Oman. This is NOT the US Military you knew, keep coping. China must be laughing.Davey Crockett
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VCheng
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Open letter to the American people from the President Of Iran. Sounds like he wants us to make it stop - not that we could even if we wanted to.
Iranian President Pens Open Letter to American People - AOL
The leader appealed to the American public to “look beyond” what he characterized as “the machinery of misinformation” amid the war in his country.
We can - if enough of us want to, that is. That point is still a ways away currently.
KingQamaR
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I’m From the U.K. . I struggle with F22 poster MAGA. Most analyst including American ones on news are reporting a balanced and informative summary of the current situation its not looking good for US.
AZ_HighCountry
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Unless you have proof positive of real US losses, keep the speculation to yourself. There's enough hopium, copium, and deludium as it is in both threads.These are public known losses The real losses are certainly higher. Your most advanced US aircraft carrier , it ran away . Sorry I meant “laundry” fire
As for the Lincoln being 1000 km off the coast of Oman, so? What is your point? With the aerial refueling capability the US has, that number is meaningless for the most part.
FWIW, the Doolittle Raid of April 1942 launched 600 miles off the coast of Japan. 1000 km is? 620 miles.
F-22Raptor
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These are public known losses The real losses are certainly higher. Your most advanced US aircraft carrier , it ran away . Sorry I meant “laundry” fire
The Ford was in Croatia for 5 days of repairs and is now returning to the war and at full mission tasking. See my post above.
The Lincoln group has carried out its tasks to perfection. Its location is irrelevant as long as those tasks are being met.
The Iraqis in Gulf War I hit more US military assets than the Iranians have managed to date. The Iranians have inflicted more base infrastructure damage, but direct attack on personnel and assets has been very poor, especially with the number of munitions fired.
The Chinese are too busy purging their entire military leadership. All we sense from them is total weakness. A nation that’s never fought a modern day war. They should be far more concerned today about how they plan to keep the PLAN alive after witnessing this air/naval campaign.
AZ_HighCountry
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So? MEUs do this all the time. That's what they train for. Your point to posting this is?
AZ_HighCountry
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Don't try to talk common sense. Have a couple people in here who seem to think things are "just fine".This is not about deals or MAGA, this is about price, and how bad it can be, but more importantly, how you can fix it
It really didn't matter if Asia reached a deal with Iran, the ships are still not moving, and we have already done a very big damage in the last 33 days. Even if stuff ends tomorrow, you are looking at around half a year to go back to normal.
It all started here
Strait of Hormuz Live Tracker — Shipping Disruption Dashboard
Real-time ship transit data, oil prices, carrier status, insurance, and supply chain impact.www.hormuztracker.com
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Hormuz sees about 130-140 tanker movements a day, we got 7 yesterday, usually it's either 0 or 1, and no more than 10 on a good day (I think there is a day that 13 went through, anyway) so let's say on average, we have 10 pass thru a day, which is very generous, we would had 330 ships sail thru the last month, which usually seen 4000+, which mean 93% of the shipping is currently suspended, unless they had pipeline directly from the Middle East, deal or no deal, nothing had moved. And the ship doesn't teleport from Hormuz straight to Japan, South Korea, or the Philippines........So you get the drift
If you are an American, you may ask, "What does that have to do with us? We produce more than we use, and we don't generally depend on oil in the Middle East." Well, oil prices are global. which means when Asia, which is the industrial heart of the world, is not getting enough oil, they will buy OVER the market price from somewhere else, which means even if you are not related to Hormuz and its spoil of war, you would still get a price hike because say if you are Texas Oil Exec, would you sell 30% more over the market price to Japan or South Korea or at price to local? And that also means whatever you are getting from China, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and Taiwan, which is basically everything in your home, you now get them more expensive. Either that or the entire supply line is just gone.
Which means at the end of the day, you are looking at 6 months + when the oil price is going to go up and up, and that's if the issue is resolved in Hormuz. And there is no guarantee that, if the escalation keeps going, and either Trump or Iran or both don't back down, the only way we can physically stop it is literally either force a regime change in Iran, or the US has to occupy part or all of the Iranian coast. Because if Iran keeps on closing the Strait even after the US says they have had enough and is going home, that's what will happen.
AZ_HighCountry
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Not trying to downplay the current mission at all. Given how long it has been since a manned mission has gone to the moon, it's certainly a testimonial to what man can do.
I stayed up late that night to watch Neil Armstrong step off the lunar lander and utter those famous words.
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