US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

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AZ_HighCountry said:
It's not hard to see which side of the conflict the US lamestream media is on. In the course of 24 hours they've ranted about Trump about to commit war crimes to now he's chickening out.

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Trump critics go from outrage over Iran threat to mocking him as 'chicken' for not following through

Critics slammed President Donald Trump's Iran threat as potential genocide, then mocked him for not following through, using the viral TACO acronym.
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Let there be no doubt my utter disgust over anything US media.

As for the "war crimes", our senior senator from AZ has been consistent in his attacks on the President that any attack on civilian infrastructure would constitute a war crime. But would it really?

Remember, during Desert Storm, then-Capt. Kelly was an Intruder pilot. Among the many targets we hit were those that could be counted as "civilian infrastructure". Why? The answer is obvious.

I wonder how many such targets the Captain himself along with his squadron hit during that 43 days.

A retired USAF pilot was on one of the Fox shows last night and reminded Capt. Kelly of that little detail.
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A little off topic from here, they are saying an ex-SOCOM was arrested for leaking the F-15E crash in Iran.
 
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Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi had a phone call with his Saudi Arabian counterpart Prince Faisal bin Farhan, Tehran’s foreign ministry said on Telegram early Thursday.

The ministers “discussed bilateral relations and regional developments,” Tehran said, without specifying when the call took place.
 
Seems like Iran targeted regional oil infrastructure after ceasefire unless rogue elements didn’t get the memo in time.

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New satellite imagery provided by the European Space Agency shows large plumes of thick black smoke rising from Saudi Aramco’s vital Abqaiq processing facility following earlier reports of an Iranian attack on Wednesday.

The image was taken on April 8th at around 10:00am local time (03:00am ET) just hours after President Trump announced a two-week ceasefire between the US and Iran.

Saudi Aramco’s Abqaiq facility is the world’s largest crude stabilization plant and provides around 5% of global oil supplies according to the company. The facility processes sour crude oil and processes it into sweet crude oil before it gets transported to both Saudi Arabia’s east and west coast via the East-West Pipeline.

The pipeline is one of two out of the region that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz, where the war in Iran has caused significant trade disruption. Transporting crude across the country connecting Abqaiq, an oil field near the eastern gulf coast, with the Red Sea port of Yanbu, the pipeline has become a crucial part of the nation’s oil export trade since the effective shuttering of Hormuz.
 
جوبا said:
Seems like Iran targeted regional oil infrastructure after ceasefire unless rogue elements didn’t get the memo in time.

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New satellite imagery provided by the European Space Agency shows large plumes of thick black smoke rising from Saudi Aramco’s vital Abqaiq processing facility following earlier reports of an Iranian attack on Wednesday.

The image was taken on April 8th at around 10:00am local time (03:00am ET) just hours after President Trump announced a two-week ceasefire between the US and Iran.

Saudi Aramco’s Abqaiq facility is the world’s largest crude stabilization plant and provides around 5% of global oil supplies according to the company. The facility processes sour crude oil and processes it into sweet crude oil before it gets transported to both Saudi Arabia’s east and west coast via the East-West Pipeline.

The pipeline is one of two out of the region that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz, where the war in Iran has caused significant trade disruption. Transporting crude across the country connecting Abqaiq, an oil field near the eastern gulf coast, with the Red Sea port of Yanbu, the pipeline has become a crucial part of the nation’s oil export trade since the effective shuttering of Hormuz.
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That Rogue element is IRGC .
I don't think they will be nice either the civilian government after this war ends .
 
Iran’s Parliament Speaker, Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, issued a statement on the U.S. and Israeli violation of Iran’s 10-point plan


Statement on the violation of three key clauses of the 10-Point Proposal (Agreed Framework) before the start of the negotiations

“The deep historical distrust we hold toward the United States stems from its repeated violations of all forms of commitments — a pattern that has regrettably been repeated once again.

As the President of the United States has clearly stated on his Truth, the Islamic Republic of Iran’s 10-Point Proposal is a ‘workable basis on which to negotiate’ and the main framework for these talks. However, 3 clauses of this proposal have been violated so far:

1- Non-compliance with the first clause of the 10-Point Proposal regarding the ceasefire in Lebanon — a commitment that Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has also explicitly referred to and declared as ‘an immediate ceasefire everywhere, including Lebanon and other regions, effective immediately’;

2- The entry of an intruding drone into Iran airspace, which was destroyed in the city of Lar in Fars Province, in clear violation of the clause prohibiting any further violation of Iran airspace;

3- Denial of Iran’s right to enrichment, which was included in sixth clause of the framework.

Now, the very ‘workable basis on which to negotiate’ has been openly and clearly violated, even before the negotiations began.

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RE: The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV’s Ambassador With the Avignon Papacy

The Free Press has documented a closed-door Pentagon meeting in which a senior Trump official lectured Pope Leo XIV’s ambassador on American military supremacy.


In January, behind closed doors at the Pentagon, Under Secretary of War for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre — Pope Leo XIV’s then-ambassador to the United States — and delivered a lecture.


America, Colby and his colleagues told the cardinal, has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.


As tempers rose, one U.S. official reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will.

Napoleon said the same, with a great response from a cardinal:

The exchange, popular in Catholic tradition, highlights the perceived indestructibility of the Church. Napoleon allegedly told Cardinal Consalvi, “Your eminence, are you not aware that I have the power to destroy the Catholic Church?” The response was, “Your majesty, we Catholic clergy have done our best to destroy the Church for the last eighteen hundred years. We have not succeeded, and neither will you”.
 
Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., on Wednesday said the U.S. military was making “profound” progress in Iran while defending President Donald Trump.
“I would like to remind people, every single Democrat running for president and every single Democrat in the Senate said, we can never allow [Iran] to acquire a nuclear weapon,” Fetterman said in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “And now, if you want to talk about a war crime, Iran is a 47-year-old war crime, what they continue to behave.”
“I, as a Democrat, I supported what President Trump did to actually hold Iran accountable, and I think it's been successful,” he continued.
Fetterman pushed back on Democrats’ calls to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove the president from power. He also said it was hypocritical for members of his party to criticize Trump after he announced a two-week ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran.
“I mean, you can't have it both ways. So where we are it's like strange to be gleeful, gleeful that we still have to accomplish some things and make these kinds of statements,” he said. “I'm old enough to remember we used to root for our military, and we would all agree that Iran is the world's leading terrorism underwriter. I mean, they are part of the evil empire.”
Fetterman said he would be the “only Democrat” to support Trump’s actions in Iran.
 
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