US Political News and Trump’s China visit

[That_Guy]

No.

People want and are content with the pre-Trump status-quo. The leftists that do what a revolution are few and far between, even if they are growing in numbers.

Too many vested interests won't allow a revolution, and the biggest hurdle is the military.

Also, revolutions rely on the military largely remaining on the sidelines, and Trump has shown he has both the political will, and enough support from the military to go after any revolutionary.

 

[j_hungary]

I suppose you also think Anthony Albanese, Christopher Luxon, Mark Carney, Keir Starmer, and Emmanuel Macron on a whim can snap their fingers and suddenly expect to be dictators??

Everybody in the country just drops everything and falls in line like sheep?
This is rational thinking?

And you need to stop thinking everything is A-OK, and just like the good ol' days, like @mulj said, we are already in a civil war, just that now we aren't fighting with force guns and bullets, the GOP and Dems are fighting in a combination of lawfare and legislative power. When you have the Democrats calling the GOP fascist and then you have the GOP calling the Democrats terrorists, we are no longer a single country; we are split as a country, that's what a civil war means.

To answer your question, yes, if Anthony Albanese wants to become the dictator, by virtual there are no one stopping him, Australia Politics are winner takes all, we ALWAYS had the upper house, lower house and the Office of the Prime Minister align, otherwise you can't form a government, which mean if Albo want to abolish election, he can "technically" do it by passing a bill, and they had the number to do that. Canada is a bit different because they had a minority government.

Not sure about any other country

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

And you need to stop thinking everything is A-OK,

How are things suddenly less A-OK vs say the previous 4 years?

What exactly has changed for most Americans in the last 11 months?
Is everybody suddenly getting 50% taken out of their paycheck in taxes or something?
Are the 1st born being smitten?
Are Zombies prowling the streets at night?

What terror supposedly has happened?

 

[j_hungary]

How are things suddenly less A-OK vs say the previous 4 years?

What exactly has changed for most Americans in the last 6 months?
Is everybody suddenly getting 50% taken out of their paycheck in taxes or something?
Are the 1st born being smitten?

Just the last 4 years?? How are things if we compare now to like 2008?

What exactly changed? Are you serious about asking me this?? Why do you think the Democrats call the MAGA Republicans "Fascist" in 2024, and Trump calls the Democrats antifa and terrorists? What changed in the last 6 months to bring this into development? Dude, are you living under a rock??

Used to be, if we had our political differences, we tried to meet people in the middle; that's what a centrist is. Today, we are more willing to just get pissed off and then talk. Now? I know someone who doesn't talk to their family member just because they voted for Trump or Harris. And you ask me what changed in the last 6 months?? Either you are completely clueless or you don't seems to think this is an issue.

 

[PK781]

unfortunately, we're looking at civil war(chaos and anarchy) rather than some revolutions. The plan of the zions is to ultimately destroy usa and its hold on the world.....whether we like it or not, the current way the world is running is all due to the american order of things and the world.
When you destroy this, it will have very bad fallouts for the entire world.
But for 'them' its the only way to raise their pax-judaica.......

I just dont know how much time is left in all this before shit hits the fan....

 

[Davey Crockett]

How are things suddenly less A-OK vs say the previous 4 years?

What exactly has changed for most Americans in the last 11 months?
Is everybody suddenly getting 50% taken out of their paycheck in taxes or something?
Are the 1st born being smitten?
Are Zombies prowling the streets at night?

What terror supposedly has happened?

Well, for one, in eight days, 42 million Americans will see their SNAP cards show insufficient funds.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Why do you think the Democrats call the MAGA Republicans "Fascist" in 2024

Mostly because they aren't left leaning. So that in their eyes automatically equates to being an enemy of the country.

and Trump calls the Democrats antifa and terrorists?

Mostly because they aren't right leaning. So that in their eyes automatically equates to being an enemy of the country.

What changed in the last 6 months to bring this into development? Dude, are you living under a rock??

It's called not enough people getting boat trips to the ocean.

Used to be, if we had our political differences, we tried to meet people in the middle; that's what a centrist is. Today, we are more willing to just get pissed off and then talk.

That's because there are too many kooks way to the left and right.

Now? I know someone who doesn't talk to their family member just because they voted for Trump or Harris.

That's because there are too many kooks way to the left and right.

And you ask me what changed in the last 6 months??

Nothing. Just one extreme kook getting upset at the opposite extreme kook.

Either you are completely clueless or you don't seems to think this is an issue.

Just because two of my neighbors feel the incessant need to scream at each other over their property fence doesn't mean the sky is falling.

 

[j_hungary]

Mostly because they aren't left leaning. So that in their eyes automatically equates to being an enemy of the country.


Mostly because they aren't right leaning. So that in their eyes automatically equates to being an enemy of the country.



It's called not enough people getting boat trips to the ocean.

That's because there are too many kooks way to the left and right.


That's because there are too many kooks way to the left and right.


Nothing. Just one extreme kook getting upset at the opposite extreme kook.


Just because two of my neighbors feel the incessant need to scream at each other over their property fence doesn't mean the sky is falling.

Dude, I admire your naivety.

As I said, if you don't see any issue, and are willing to live in eternal ignorant bliss. Then the only way you would know is when it hits you in the face.

We live in a country where people are living in squalid conditions because the government refused to act, and that's because if they act, then the other party wins. Health Preimum is about to go 2-300% in a week, people are taking out of their SNAP in a week, and civil servants have not been paid in 3 weeks. Because one party wants something that the other party doesn't want to negotiate, and rather than doing this, for what? Just because you are left and I am right, or vice versa?

You want to fight the Chinese on the technological front? On the military front? Or political front? How are you going to do that with half the country did not support you? And you don't seems to think this is an issue "Oh just some brickering, it's not the end of the world" Well, let me tell you this, if I am a civil servent, either a TSA agent or work with DOL or DCS or whatever, and I am missing my payment because of this shutdown for 30 days and I am losing my house, my car, and most likely the livelihood, that's the end of me, I eman, who is going to pay my rent? Put food on my table? Just because you can and you don't suffer from this idiotic shutdown, that does not mean everything is the same.

There have been 4 shutdowns in the last 10 years. Guess how many government shutdowns have happened in Australia in the last 80 years?

 

[j_hungary]

Biden: impossible because we have a shortage of people to do jobs..that's why we need the people coming in over the border.

You do know not everyone getting SNAP is unemployed, right? Some of them (in fact, most of them) are disabled. You are talking about people like disabled veteran.

Disability Impacts All of Us Infographic

Infographic shows data on how many U.S. adults have a disability and their healthcare access.

www.cdc.gov

And what had Biden had to do with this? He hasn't been the President for 10 months now. And wasn't Trump kicking out all the illegal immigrants already? Shouldn't the lazy American get back to work on a farm or building houses, or someplace that hires illegal immigrants, and stop depending on SNAP or any Socialist benefits??

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Well, for one, in eight days, 42 million Americans will see their SNAP cards show insufficient funds.

that is true. lots of unhappy people.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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Yes, give Argentina 20 billion while not paying our civil service.

That's one way to make America great.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Second,

Health care premiums are set to double for many.

Third,

Two million federal workers will not get paid this week.

Trump heading off to Asia tomorrow. Senate has not even bothered to set up a 13th vote to reopen the federal government.

 

[FuturePAF]

I think the Democrats were doing this for a reason; they don't want to repeat what 2024 did to them. People think Harris was parachuted in as the leader. Still, we will never know, it may actually be better if the Democrats run Biden that late in the election cycle instead, because Dem voters don't think Harris was their choice, as they elected Biden in the Primary, not Harris. So I am not going to be surprised at all if Dem did not have a clear leader until 28' Primary. The issue is, you can still push back the narrative using the existing leader; it's going to be bad optics if you have Gavin Newsom basically work harder than any of the house democrats.

On the other hand, Dem would need to settle on another issue, whether or not they target independent voters. Or claw back the 2020 Democrats voters who lost faith in 2024, because both sides want different things. Dems want to address in Equality Issue, the Environment issue, and the social issue, while Independents want things that are more on the surface, it's about cost of living, work, and public infrastructure. Those two groups wanted different things, and in a perfect world, they should be able to cater to both, but I don't think they can in this election cycle, which means they had to pick, whether or not to go with a more Democratic policy or run an "appealing" to independent policy.

Would have to say, it's a lot easier to focus on independent issue rather than democrats own issue, because most of Trump policy is destroying the independent, I don't see any MAGA group can be sway, maybe the farmers as they are doing dirty by Trump (Trump is literally killing the US farmer from what I was told) so priority would be repeal the OBBB (They only need 51% not supermajority to do that, so if they won the congress, they can) and then revert the Tariff Policy, if SCOTUS decided not to rule them unconstitutional. That would most likely be enough to at least stop the inflation going, but this is not going to drop, to make it drop, it's going to be more work to do, especially you need to come up with Health Care and Bottom Line protection (which means reworking the social benefits scheme), this is going to be harder because Turmp would veto it even if theypass a bill and it going to need supermajority to do, or they can wait until they elect a dem president in 28.

It would be a lot harder to try to claw back the Democratic voter because you would need to go over the supermajority to do social reform, things like the National Abortion Right (to deal with Roe v Wade) or reforming the SCOTUS, that really depends on how much Dem can claw back in house and senate seat, it will be a lot easier just to wait for a dem president in 28 and then get EO out like Trump did to further the social policy.

This is not going to change much in the Foreign Policy front. Trump is not a good politician, so whatever the Democrats do would be better than what Trump did. Which is not bombing Venezuela or maybe reign in support of Netanyahu, but I don't see a giant shift from US foreign policy direction.

I thinks will play for the middle, win back the centrists (as they don’t want to concede to the DSA wing of the party). Their path to power is if Trump makes enough mistakes and the Dems run people that hammer home that it’s to stop the Trump agenda in the midterms. Depending on how 2026 goes, we will see if the Dems have a shot in 2028 and who they will have to run to carry their message, because it will indicate which voters they think they need to focus on most. Not in a pandering appearing way this time, but in a more complete package. If they want a shot they will parka ably have to start a running a field of hopefuls by mid 2027 to have it hashed out by the end of 2027, so the candidate has a solid year to push back on Trump and Vance all throughout 2028.

Healthcare might be the most glaring issue to galvanize and mobilize Dems and independents towards voting in a dem majority congress in 2026, and a dem president in 2028.

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[nahtanbob]

It won't in a couple of years.

I was talking to a friend I went to College with a couple of months back, we are study partners in our Political Science course at CU Boulder, we were talking about the state of Political affairs in the US.

I was talking to him about the political landscape and why Democrats seem reluctant to challenge the GOP on several different issues. There was virtually no pushback on the One Big Beautiful Bill and no pushback on the different foreign policy.

What he said is something to think about. The current political climate is going to push the population further to the left in the next election cycle. This is the generic Ballot for the 2026 mid-term, as per Real Clear Politics. (Real Clear is one of the right-leaning poll organisations)

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If things stand, 1 year from now, Democrats are going to retake the Congress and Senate. So what's the deal? The deal is, according to my friend, Left is basically going to use everything Trump used to push the agenda further to the left. What Trump is doing is setting up the Playbook for the Democrats to use when they come back into Power. 2026 is most likely going to be worse than 2025. Which means if the GOP loses the 2028 Presidency, we are looking very closely to become China. Look at the socialist candidate rise up in the differnet races, when they come back to Power, you are going to see Dem Presdient hitting Executive Order like Trump did and since SCOTUS sided with most of Trump Executive Order, they can't go back and revert it, once you have a judgment, that's judgement is set, up can't come back and re-judge the case and rule the otherway. It would be even worse if Democrats managed to get 2/3 of either House or Senate or both.

So there are two possible scenarios. Either Trump goes full dictatorship and cancels the 2026 and 2028 elections, he IS going to lose both at the way things are going, this is not going to end well for him if he does that, or he kept on going and loses 2026 (very likely) and 2028 (Somehow likely) and Dem went on full dictatorship mode and heavily susppress the Conservative. The problem is, Trump can't dismantle the entire guard rail for Political Independence in these 4 years, which means he can only issue an Executive Order, which can be reverted once he leaves office, but if the Dem come back and win in 2028, everything is going to be done, depending on how much sway they had in the office. That's not going to end well for the Conservative. So 4 years of that if they win, the possibility of a revolution was there.

There is zero support for illegal immigration