Vance: America hasn't won a single war in the last 40 years

Did not learn my WW1 and WW2 history from the broken American school system.

Canadian victories in WW1 broke the German spirit as well as their backs. The victories came right exactly when the WW1 entered its final phase. The USA's arrival did nothing major.
Where is the evidence of such Canadian victories that broke the German spirit and their backs in WW1? Canadian forces provided breakthrough in the Battle of Vimy Ridge in 1917 but this achievement did not change the status quo in the region as overarching the Nivelle Offensive FLOPPED. The Battle of Passchendaele provided limited gains in 1917 that were lost without firing a shot in the face of the German Spring Offensive in 1918. The US-led military operations such as the Battle of St. Mihiel followed by the Meuse-Argonne Offensive in 1918 proved decisive in turning the tide of the war in the end.

The Meuse-Argonne Offensive in September 1918 was part of a large Allied effort to attack the Germans along the entire front to force them out of France and back into Germany. The plan sought to take advantage of the arrival of the American Expeditionary Force under General Pershing. After four years of fighting, European soldiers were exhausted, but the arrival of the U.S. Forces gave the Allies fresh troops and numerical superiority.

The 600,000 man strong U.S. 1st Army planned to attack northward with nine divisions in the line and five in reserve, supported by 2,700 pieces of artillery, 189 tanks, and 821 aircraft, along a fifteen to twenty mile wide corridor bounded by the impassable Meuse River on the east and the dense Argonne Forest and the Aire River on the west.

The Germans had occupied the area for years and had developed an elaborate defensive system of four fortified lines with a dense network of wire entanglements, machine-gun positions, and concrete fighting posts. In between these trench lines, the Germans had a series of strong points in the woods and knolls. With five divisions on the line and another seven in reserve, French General Philippe Petain believed that the German defenses were so strong that the Americans would do well if they managed to reach one of their first objectives, the town of Montfaucon, located a few miles behind enemy lines, before winter.

At 5:30 A.M. on September 26, 1918, after a three-hour artillery bombardment, Pershing launched his attack. Despite heavy fog, rugged terrain, and the network of barbed wire, American Soldiers quickly overran the Germans’ forward positions. For the rest of September, the 1st Army plodded forward. Heavy rains turned the terrain to mud, which bogged down tanks and artillery and slowed resupply efforts. The Germans used the delay to bring in reinforcements, and German artillery rained down fire from the heights of the Meuse and the Argonne Forest. The advance became a continuous series of bloody, hard-fought engagements.

Of the nine U.S. divisions in the initial assault, only three had significant combat experience. The 79th Division had only been in France for seven weeks. Heavy fog, rain, and the broken terrain sorely tested the inexperienced troops. Many divisions suffered from a lack of coordination, and the infantry and artillery often failed to work together effectively.

Despite these problems, the 1st Army advanced eight miles into the German lines by the end of September, fighting through some of the strongest positions on the Western Front and capturing 9,000 prisoners and large amounts of supplies and equipment.

As the battle progressed, Pershing began to reorganize the 1st Army, rotating three battle-hardened divisions into the line to relieve some of the less experienced units.
The Germans also strengthened their position, adding six new divisions, bringing their total to eleven.

To prepare for the second phase of the offensive, Liggett ordered a series of limited attacks to keep the pressure on the Germans while his battle-weary men reequipped and recuperated. By the end of October, the 1st Army was ready for the next general attack.

On November 1, Liggett’s 1st Army attacked north, toward the Meuse River. Over the next several days, the 1st Army advanced as fast as it could move artillery and supplies forward. At one point, the advance was so rapid that it ran off the AEF headquarters’ maps. By November 4, the Americans had achieved their objective.

Liggett’s careful preparation of the 1st Army paid off. Infantry and artillery coordination was superb.
Instead of stopping to deal with fortified positions, regular troops pushed through and around them while special assault troops remained behind to deal with them. Under Liggett’s tutelage, the American units had finally developed into a well-trained, well-organized fighting force.

One week later the Armistice was signed, and World War I was over. The fighting ended at the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month—November 11, 1918. When it ended, the Meuse-Argonne Campaign was the greatest battle that the U.S. Army had ever fought. Almost 1.25 million American troops had participated during the course of the 47-day campaign. American casualties were high—over 117,000—but the results were impressive. The 1st Army had driven forty-three German divisions back about thirty miles over some of the most difficult terrain and most heavily fortified positions on the Western Front, while inflicting over 120,000 casualties. While credit for victory belongs to all the Allied nations, there is little doubt that the success of the American forces during this offensive was a major factor in Germany’s surrender.
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The Meuse-Argonne Offensive broke the German spirit and their backs in WW1.

Canadian troops fought well with courage and I don't question this reality but Canada wasn't a military juggernaut that could defeat a power like Germany back in those days when German nationalism was at its peak.

As far as the WW2 in the Pacific was concerned, China had been fighting against Imperial Japan since 1936. The USA came into WW2 way too late just like in the WW1.

Had there been no China fighting and putting up a fierce fight against Imperial Japan, the Japanese would have crippled and completely annihilated the USA.

Imperial Japan had a plan to destroy the USA's urban populations by using chemical/bilological weapons but the Japanese high command decided against it because they thought it would be too inhumane.

Now compare that with the racists running the USA at that time. The moment they had a weapon of mass destruction they used it on civillians in Japan.

Every war the USA fought that they barely came out of alive, the ended up glamourising it as a stunning victory.
China had no Navy or Air Force to challenge the Japanese in WW2. The Japanese forces overran numerous Chinese lands and reached Burma in 1942. The Japanese forces were at their strongest in the Pacific with a well-developed Navy and Air Force that were collectively used to spearhead operations across the Pacific. The USN destroyed a major Japanese force in the Battle of Midway in 1942.

The Battle of Midway occurred when the U.S. Navy intercepted a Japanese invasion fleet heading for Midway Island, achieving an overwhelming victory and resulting in the turning point of the war in the Pacific. Hard at work since early 1942, Commander Joseph Rochefort and his team at Station HYPO were able to analyze and partially break down the Japanese code for the attack. At this point, the Japanese were on the defensive and never recovered from the loss of four aircraft carriers and numerous pilots. - Link

The US was also fighting on several fronts and its operations proved decisive in turning the tide of the war. Your logic is not sound.

Now compare that with the racists running the USA at that time. The moment they had a weapon of mass destruction they used it on civillians in Japan.

Every war the USA fought that they barely came out of alive, the ended up glamourising it as a stunning victory.
Then Imperial Japan started the war with the US by attacking Pearl Harbor in 1941, thousands of Americans lost their lives in this incident alone. The Japanese forces were well-trained and brutal and many American troops lost their lives in clashes with them across the Pacific. American leaders were frustrated and decided to use all manner of tools at their disposal to ensure Japanese surrender. American Air Power bombed Tokyo back to the stone age on 09-03-1945. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed later - both were cities of considerable military importance to the Japanese.

WW2 was by far the most brutal war in human history. The gloves were off for this one.

The Japanese also used biological weapons in China in WW2.
The Japanese also had a nuclear weapons research program in WW2.

The US shifted to Theory of Limited War for the lesser wars in post-WW2 times. The Pacific War Model is an option not considered in a long time. However, Trump threatened to wipe out North Korea in 2017 and Vance might be mentally preparing American citizens for the possibility that the US can be brutal in its conduct of war to have a decisive outcome like in WW2 [if there is a need to fight one]. The US is the only country in the world to have visually demonstrated the capability to intercept ICBM class targets and they are working to expand this capacity.
 
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"Based on the investigation of the Japanese Yomiuri Shimbun, the military death toll of Japan in China is about 700,000 since 1937 (excluding the deaths in Manchuria).

Another source from Hilary Conroy claims that a total of 447,000 Japanese soldiers died or went missing in China during the Second Sino-Japanese War. Of the 1,130,000 Imperial Japanese Army soldiers who died during World War II, 39 percent died in China."
Without China, the Japs would have taken over India, where they would have died of diarrhea.
 
Where is the evidence of such Canadian victories that broke the German spirit and their backs in WW1? Canadian forces provided breakthrough in the Battle of Vimy Ridge in 1917 but this achievement did not change the status quo in the region as overarching the Nivelle Offensive FLOPPED. The Battle of Passchendaele provided limited gains in 1917 that were lost without firing a shot in the face of the German Spring Offensive in 1918. The US-led military operations such as the Battle of St. Mihiel followed by the Meuse-Argonne Offensive in 1918 proved decisive in turning the tide of the war in the end.

The Meuse-Argonne Offensive in September 1918 was part of a large Allied effort to attack the Germans along the entire front to force them out of France and back into Germany. The plan sought to take advantage of the arrival of the American Expeditionary Force under General Pershing. After four years of fighting, European soldiers were exhausted, but the arrival of the U.S. Forces gave the Allies fresh troops and numerical superiority.

The 600,000 man strong U.S. 1st Army planned to attack northward with nine divisions in the line and five in reserve, supported by 2,700 pieces of artillery, 189 tanks, and 821 aircraft, along a fifteen to twenty mile wide corridor bounded by the impassable Meuse River on the east and the dense Argonne Forest and the Aire River on the west.

The Germans had occupied the area for years and had developed an elaborate defensive system of four fortified lines with a dense network of wire entanglements, machine-gun positions, and concrete fighting posts. In between these trench lines, the Germans had a series of strong points in the woods and knolls. With five divisions on the line and another seven in reserve, French General Philippe Petain believed that the German defenses were so strong that the Americans would do well if they managed to reach one of their first objectives, the town of Montfaucon, located a few miles behind enemy lines, before winter.

At 5:30 A.M. on September 26, 1918, after a three-hour artillery bombardment, Pershing launched his attack. Despite heavy fog, rugged terrain, and the network of barbed wire, American Soldiers quickly overran the Germans’ forward positions. For the rest of September, the 1st Army plodded forward. Heavy rains turned the terrain to mud, which bogged down tanks and artillery and slowed resupply efforts. The Germans used the delay to bring in reinforcements, and German artillery rained down fire from the heights of the Meuse and the Argonne Forest. The advance became a continuous series of bloody, hard-fought engagements.

Of the nine U.S. divisions in the initial assault, only three had significant combat experience. The 79th Division had only been in France for seven weeks. Heavy fog, rain, and the broken terrain sorely tested the inexperienced troops. Many divisions suffered from a lack of coordination, and the infantry and artillery often failed to work together effectively.

Despite these problems, the 1st Army advanced eight miles into the German lines by the end of September, fighting through some of the strongest positions on the Western Front and capturing 9,000 prisoners and large amounts of supplies and equipment.

As the battle progressed, Pershing began to reorganize the 1st Army, rotating three battle-hardened divisions into the line to relieve some of the less experienced units.
The Germans also strengthened their position, adding six new divisions, bringing their total to eleven.

To prepare for the second phase of the offensive, Liggett ordered a series of limited attacks to keep the pressure on the Germans while his battle-weary men reequipped and recuperated. By the end of October, the 1st Army was ready for the next general attack.

On November 1, Liggett’s 1st Army attacked north, toward the Meuse River. Over the next several days, the 1st Army advanced as fast as it could move artillery and supplies forward. At one point, the advance was so rapid that it ran off the AEF headquarters’ maps. By November 4, the Americans had achieved their objective.

Liggett’s careful preparation of the 1st Army paid off. Infantry and artillery coordination was superb.
Instead of stopping to deal with fortified positions, regular troops pushed through and around them while special assault troops remained behind to deal with them. Under Liggett’s tutelage, the American units had finally developed into a well-trained, well-organized fighting force.

One week later the Armistice was signed, and World War I was over. The fighting ended at the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month—November 11, 1918. When it ended, the Meuse-Argonne Campaign was the greatest battle that the U.S. Army had ever fought. Almost 1.25 million American troops had participated during the course of the 47-day campaign. American casualties were high—over 117,000—but the results were impressive. The 1st Army had driven forty-three German divisions back about thirty miles over some of the most difficult terrain and most heavily fortified positions on the Western Front, while inflicting over 120,000 casualties. While credit for victory belongs to all the Allied nations, there is little doubt that the success of the American forces during this offensive was a major factor in Germany’s surrender.
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The Meuse-Argonne Offensive broke the German spirit and their backs in WW1.

Canadian troops fought well with courage and I don't question this reality but Canada wasn't a military juggernaut that could defeat a power like Germany back in those days when German nationalism was at its peak.


China had no Navy or Air Force to challenge the Japanese in WW2. The Japanese forces overran numerous Chinese lands and reached Burma in 1942. The Japanese forces were at their strongest in the Pacific with a well-developed Navy and Air Force that were collectively used to spearhead operations across the Pacific. The USN destroyed a major Japanese force in the Battle of Midway in 1942.

The Battle of Midway occurred when the U.S. Navy intercepted a Japanese invasion fleet heading for Midway Island, achieving an overwhelming victory and resulting in the turning point of the war in the Pacific. Hard at work since early 1942, Commander Joseph Rochefort and his team at Station HYPO were able to analyze and partially break down the Japanese code for the attack. At this point, the Japanese were on the defensive and never recovered from the loss of four aircraft carriers and numerous pilots. - Link

The US was also fighting on several fronts and its operations proved decisive in turning the tide of the war. Your logic is not sound.


Then Imperial Japan started the war with the US by attacking Pearl Harbor in 1941, thousands of Americans lost their lives in this incident alone. The Japanese forces were well-trained and brutal and many American troops lost their lives in clashes with them across the Pacific. American leaders were frustrated and decided to use all manner of tools at their disposal to ensure Japanese surrender. American Air Power bombed Tokyo back to the stone age on 09-03-1945. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed later - both were cities of considerable military importance to the Japanese.

WW2 was by far the most brutal war in human history. The gloves were off for this one.

The Japanese also used biological weapons in China in WW2.
The Japanese also had a nuclear weapons research program in WW2.

The US shifted to Theory of Limited War for the lesser wars in post-WW2 times. The Pacific War Model is an option not considered in a long time. However, Trump threatened to wipe out North Korea in 2017 and Vance might be mentally preparing American citizens for the possibility that the US can be brutal in its conduct of war to have a decisive outcome like in WW2 [if there is a need to fight one]. The US is the only country in the world to have visually demonstrated the capability to intercept ICBM class targets and they are working to expand this capacity.
Typical Americanised revionism of history.

It was the Canadian victories that turned the tide. Before that all sides were dead tired and reaching the conclusion that the positions held by different sides in the tench warfare would become the new international boundaries. The morale was dying and the only boost they felt was by some potential of arrival of soldiers from the Indian Subcontinent.

There was no battle in WW1 more important than Vimy Ridge. In terms of morale boost and lifting of spirits of the allied forces nothing comes close to Passchendaele. It was a huge Canadian victory. Had it not been for the Canadian advances the allies would have abandoned the mission eventually.

The Germans practically gave up after losing Passchendaele. It sent shockwaves and all the way to Berlin and amplified the civil unrest inside Germany.
 
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Not to mention Somme. Literally absent from the collective American memory since the Americans were not there to begin with.
 
"Based on the investigation of the Japanese Yomiuri Shimbun, the military death toll of Japan in China is about 700,000 since 1937 (excluding the deaths in Manchuria).

Another source from Hilary Conroy claims that a total of 447,000 Japanese soldiers died or went missing in China during the Second Sino-Japanese War. Of the 1,130,000 Imperial Japanese Army soldiers who died during World War II, 39 percent died in China."
Exactly. Just imagine if the Japanese were not being held down by China's trumendous effort. The USA would have not dared block oil going to Imperial Japan.
 
Not to mention Somme. Literally absent from the collective American memory since the Americans were not there to begin with.
The first or second battle?

The US was very much present at the second battle having suffered well over 11,500 casualties compared to the 5,600 lost by Canada.
 
Not only that, Hollywood also fills in the blanks for stupid Americans.
Hollywood is neither an equalizer nor does it fill in the blanks. It is a mediocre entertainment entity pushing an agenda.
 
At least the American songs are pretty good.

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Typical Americanised revionism of history.

It was the Canadian victories that turned the tide. Before that all sides were dead tired and reaching the conclusion that the positions held by different sides in the tench warfare would become the new international boundaries. The morale was dying and the only boost they felt was by some potential of arrival of soldiers from the Indian Subcontinent.

There was no battle in WW1 more important than Vimy Ridge. In terms of morale boost and lifting of spirits of the allied forces nothing comes close to Passchendaele. It was a huge Canadian victory. Had it not been for the Canadian advances the allies would have abandoned the mission eventually.

The Germans practically gave up after losing Passchendaele. It sent shockwaves and all the way to Berlin and amplified the civil unrest inside Germany.
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There was no battle in WW1 more important than Vimy Ridge?
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Vimy Ridge was a tactical victory at best:

The importance of the Battle of Vimy Ridge in the broader context of Great War
military history is straightforward. It was an unquestioned victory for British Empire
forces in a year marked for the most part by disheartening setbacks, and in the process
vindicated the new ‘bite-and-hold’ attack doctrine that had emerged from the bitter
lessons of the Somme in 1916. For the Canadian Corps, it had a profound impact on the
collective spirit of officers and men, and marked the beginning of a string of victories
that would solidify the Corps’ reputation as a premier fighting force. Ironically, while
the British Empire saw Vimy as a notable victory, for Germany it was seen, at worst, as
a minor setback, its adverse consequences quite easily contained.

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The Germans practically gave up after losing Passchendaele?
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The German forces recovered all lands lost in the Battle of Passchendaele during their push known as the German Spring Offensive that was launched on March 1918 and concluded in July 1918:

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American General John Pershing was a military genius of his time. He was well-versed in history and proposed a shift in approach from Trench Warfare to Combined Arms Tactics in line with his Open Warfare Doctrine in World War 1. General Pershing proved himself to all sides in the Battle of St. Mihiel on September 1918:

The Battle of St. Mihiel (September 12-15, 1918) involving the American Expeditionary Force (AEF) and 110,000 French colonial troops under the command of U.S. General John J. Pershing. The reduction of the salient near the village of St. Mihiel would facilitate communication and logistics between various French corps at Nancy and Verdun. Yet Pershing also saw an opportunity for the AEF to break through the German lines and capture the fortified city of Metz. The attack caught the outnumbered Germans in the process of retreating to join the larger body of the German army behind the Hindenburg Line, so that their artillery was out of place and the infantry was generally disorganized. Thus, the American attack proved more successful than expected. The offensive also saw the use of the newly-created U.S. tank battalions under then-Colonel George S. Patton. The AEF also relied heavily on the U.S. Army Air Service to conduct visual reconnaissance before the battle began and provide bombing support during the offensive. In the end, the AEF captured 15,000 German prisoners and 450 artillery in the reduction of the salient. The great success of the St. Mihiel attack further established the effectiveness of the AEF in the minds of the French and British commanders.
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- and finished the job with the Meuse-Argonne Offensive that was launched on September 1918 and concluded in November 1918:

Pershing’s First and Second Armies had cleared the Meuse-Argonne sector and positioned themselves to take Sedan and Metz, moves that would have threatened Germany’s very ability to wage the war. In the course of operations, they shattered the German Fifth Army; inflicted 100,000 casualties; and captured 26,000 men, 974 guns, and 3,000 machine guns. The AEF, in turn, suffered 117,000 dead and wounded. In many ways, the greatest accomplishment was logistical. Pershing and his staff pulled the AEF out of one area, moved the army dozens of miles to north, and commenced an entirely new offensive within weeks.

Pershing’s own summation of the Meuse-Argonne campaign, and indeed the entire AEF, takes up only a few pages at the end of his two-volume, Pulitzer Prize-winning memoirs. Like Ulysses S. Grant’s post-Civil War memoirs, they are a literary achievement as well as a historical record. The immense pride Pershing felt in his officers and men shines through the last paragraphs. Humble to the end, Pershing points out that the AEF was not perfect: “The divisions with little training, while aggressive and courageous they were capable of powerful blows, but their blows were apt to be awkward and teamwork was often not well understood.” Despite his quibbles, the battles in the Meuse-Argonne should be better remembered than they are by Americans, taking a place alongside such other forest battles as the Wilderness and the Bulge in the nation’s other two great wars.


 
They can not win war when they do not have war goals and conditions for win and as any bully they pick only on weaker ones but they can not defeat those also due lack of clarity and just cause.
 
They can not win war when they do not have war goals and conditions for win and as any bully they pick only on weaker ones but they can not defeat those also due lack of clarity and just cause.
Read this and this for a historical recap. And who won the war in recent years? Saddam setup in Iraq? Qaddafi setup in Libya? The Al-Qaeda and ISIS Networks in different countries? Assad setup in Syria? The US and its allies worked together to defeat and dismantle all of these forces in a series of operations in recent years.

However, war profiteering is a lucrative business. The US is known to play along with some adversaries like it did in Afghanistan and in the Red Sea to test its technology and learn from these operational experiences to improve its forces.

You have a point about having clearly defined war goals and conditions to win and this is what Vance seems to allude to - war profiteering should take a back seat in this case.

Nevertheless, American military footprint is global:

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How is this possible for a country that supposedly sucks in war or lacks in power? The American Empire is like the British Empire with strategic gains of its own such as in the Pacific, Europe, and the Middle East - the US founded NATO and OECD to reinforce these strategic gains.

American forces have demonstrated operational brilliance in many wars such as in the British - American War, the Mexican - American War, the Spanish - American War, World War 1, World War 2, in conflicts of the Cold War campaign, and also in conflicts of the War On Terror campaign.

Russia was the second strongest country in the world:

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- but Russian military footprint will shrink due to costly campaign in Ukraine and loss of allies in Syria.

China is creating a better military force than Russia but its global footprint is comparable to that of Russia in the present:

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Read this and this for a historical recap. And who won the war in recent years? Saddam setup in Iraq? Qaddafi setup in Libya? The Al-Qaeda and ISIS Networks in different countries? Assad setup in Syria? The US and its allies worked together to defeat and dismantle all of these forces in a series of operations in recent years.

However, war profiteering is a lucrative business. The US is known to play along with some adversaries like it did in Afghanistan and in the Red Sea to test its technology and learn from these operational experiences to improve its forces.

You have a point about having clearly defined war goals and conditions to win and this is what Vance seems to allude to - war profiteering should take a back seat in this case.

Nevertheless, American military footprint is global:

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How is this possible for a country that supposedly sucks in war or lacks in power? The American Empire is like the British Empire with strategic gains of its own such as in the Pacific, Europe, and the Middle East - the US founded NATO and OECD to reinforce these strategic gains.

American forces have demonstrated operational brilliance in many wars such as in the British - American War, the Mexican - American War, the Spanish - American War, World War 1, World War 2, in conflicts of the Cold War campaign, and also in conflicts of the War On Terror campaign.

Russia was the second strongest country in the world:

View attachment 100510

- but Russian military footprint will shrink due to costly campaign in Ukraine and loss of allies in Syria.

China is creating a better military force than Russia but its global footprint is comparable to that of Russia in the present:

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i do not deny their ability to inflict maximum physical damage to the lesser states but as von Clausewitz said war is extension of politics and they are at this point beyond fix, when you mentioned Russia as example isn't it that USA approached them recently to beg for peace?
 
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Read this and this for a historical recap. And who won the war in recent years? Saddam setup in Iraq? Qaddafi setup in Libya? The Al-Qaeda and ISIS Networks in different countries? Assad setup in Syria? The US and its allies worked together to defeat and dismantle all of these forces in a series of operations in recent years.

However, war profiteering is a lucrative business. The US is known to play along with some adversaries like it did in Afghanistan and in the Red Sea to test its technology and learn from these operational experiences to improve its forces.

You have a point about having clearly defined war goals and conditions to win and this is what Vance seems to allude to - war profiteering should take a back seat in this case.

Nevertheless, American military footprint is global:

View attachment 100505

How is this possible for a country that supposedly sucks in war or lacks in power? The American Empire is like the British Empire with strategic gains of its own such as in the Pacific, Europe, and the Middle East - the US founded NATO and OECD to reinforce these strategic gains.

American forces have demonstrated operational brilliance in many wars such as in the British - American War, the Mexican - American War, the Spanish - American War, World War 1, World War 2, in conflicts of the Cold War campaign, and also in conflicts of the War On Terror campaign.

Russia was the second strongest country in the world:

View attachment 100510

- but Russian military footprint will shrink due to costly campaign in Ukraine and loss of allies in Syria.

China is creating a better military force than Russia but its global footprint is comparable to that of Russia in the present:

View attachment 100513
This is exacly what is slowly but steadily breaking US back. China didn't develop and grow so fast in the past 30 years for no reason. US now is on the old Soviet Union's path.

Words of wisdom from the late US president Jimmy Carter
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