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Right now, even though Turkiye and Iran are competitors, the logical question is if the fall of Iran to Israel in Turkiyes interest? Is Turkiye actively undermining Iran right now because it also views the region through a zero sum approach ?

No, not in Turkish interests, Turkey wants to be able to grow without the zionist evil eye on it, frankly speaking, the Iranians keeping the zionists busy is in Turkish interests. Turkey is not undermining Iran, if anything if you follow the small little development, Turkey is one of the few Sunni countries in the region that doesn't have a hostile relationship with Iran. Hakan Fidan was in Tehran only a few days ago to discuss regional matters.





 
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Love this guy. He's making friend everywhere. He may take a look under his bed each night. 🤣
 
Love this guy. He's making friend everywhere. He may take a look under his bed each night. 🤣
Funny thing is hate the guy but you have to love how he has the ability to play countries against one another be it Europe Arab or Muslim “leaders” they do his bidding directly or indirectly from Iran to Lebanon to Syria to Iraq to uae to so and so on the 💩 will blow up in his face one day but for right now he’s the one laughing while he stays out of jail
 
Funny thing is hate the guy but you have to love how he has the ability to play countries against one another be it Europe Arab or Muslim “leaders” they do his bidding directly or indirectly from Iran to Lebanon to Syria to Iraq to uae to so and so on the 💩 will blow up in his face one day but for right now he’s the one laughing while he stays out of jail

He offers them economy, trade, military support, political support, support by world financial tycoons, otherwise he's is like Baghdadi. Muslims leadership and people need to learn from this, build their economies, military to defend themselves and also form unity. So far its all a big disappointment.
 
He offers them economy, trade, military support, political support, support by world financial tycoons, otherwise he's is like Baghdadi. Muslims leadership and people need to learn from this, build their economies, military to defend themselves and also form unity. So far its all a big disappointment.
Funny thing I don’t see the big economic benefit to most of these countries trade etc outside of uae currently which by now Israel has basically compromised many in that country and the tech they sell if there is not a back door to gather intel or sabotage uae in the future I would be extremely amazed.
Arab and Muslim countries as a whole are way behind turkey is catching up Pakistan is definitely a military powerhouse but definitely should build up their economy without fear of having to lean on china or America.
Saudis could be a military powerhouse but they spend 100 billion every several years on outside ware instead of investing half of that in house and building up their domestic production

But what do I know…..
 
Funny thing I don’t see the big economic benefit to most of these countries trade etc outside of uae currently which by now Israel has basically compromised many in that country and the tech they sell if there is not a back door to gather intel or sabotage uae in the future I would be extremely amazed.
Arab and Muslim countries as a whole are way behind turkey is catching up Pakistan is definitely a military powerhouse but definitely should build up their economy without fear of having to lean on china or America.
Saudis could be a military powerhouse but they spend 100 billion every several years on outside ware instead of investing half of that in house and building up their domestic production

But what do I know…..

From all these Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia should be the role model, great economies, educated societies, big institutions, Turkey is like military superpower for the Muslims, Indonesia has decent military but both Malaysia Indonesia don't need big militaries, Pakistan military is top notch but sadly we lack in all other fields. GCC are ofcourse loaded since they have Oil Gas, noone can compete in those areas, Egypt is balanced but like Pakistan has too much corruption, Iran in my opinion has the potential to be at Turkey level, and economy as GCC. Unfortunately international sanctions and western/GCC lack of support to Iranian current regime is harming them. If Iran was under Shah i think they be like Turkey, with large GCC type of oil/gas wealth.

Anyways Turkey can easily counter Israel, Greece and Cyprus via Turkey North Cyprus and Syria, that is if they can maintain control, Usa Kurdish Saudia Israel are also fighting for control.
 
From all these Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia should be the role model, great economies, educated societies, big institutions, Turkey is like military superpower for the Muslims, Indonesia has decent military but both Malaysia Indonesia don't need big militaries, Pakistan military is top notch but sadly we lack in all other fields. GCC are ofcourse loaded since they have Oil Gas, noone can compete in those areas, Egypt is balanced but like Pakistan has too much corruption, Iran in my opinion has the potential to be at Turkey level, and economy as GCC. Unfortunately international sanctions and western/GCC lack of support to Iranian current regime is harming them. If Iran was under Shah i think they be like Turkey, with large GCC type of oil/gas wealth.

Anyways Turkey can easily counter Israel, Greece and Cyprus via Turkey North Cyprus and Syria, that is if they can maintain control, Usa Kurdish Saudia Israel are also fighting for control.
Unless turkey takes a more direct role in Syria with substantial troops to counter Israeli expansionist goals not going to happen and when I mean counter just set up a large base how Iran has done in the past not for the goal of destroying Israel but keeping it at bay Israel loves to fight a war but wars they think they will win quickly not wars that will drag out turkey is far better prepared to go to war with Israel than Iran was and to be fair neither side will go to war for fear of angering papa trump.
Honestly I know Cyprus and north Cyprus more or less cold peace but does either side want to go to war same with Greece and turkey israel is just playing these idiots to raise the heat
 
Israel already has a lot on its plate, messing with Turkiye isn’t one of them. Right now they have to do damage control on their fractured PR (if they can at all).
 
Unless turkey takes a more direct role in Syria with substantial troops to counter Israeli expansionist goals not going to happen and when I mean counter just set up a large base how Iran has done in the past not for the goal of destroying Israel but keeping it at bay Israel loves to fight a war but wars they think they will win quickly not wars that will drag out turkey is far better prepared to go to war with Israel than Iran was and to be fair neither side will go to war for fear of angering papa trump.
Honestly I know Cyprus and north Cyprus more or less cold peace but does either side want to go to war same with Greece and turkey israel is just playing these idiots to raise the heat

They will not build a base if they are unable to defend it. Turkish ally in Syria is SNA, and HTS is between Saudia Qatar and Turkey, SDF is with Usa and possibly Israeli backing, FSA is Usa backed, South Israel is trying to gain influence. I mentioned this before, Turkey should have backed Bashar Al Assad and SAA, they countered Israel and SDF, ofcourse they refused to share power with Muslim Brotherhood and allies, and also were secular so they had to go, they also didnt get on well with GCC leadership. Syria is a mess right now.
 
They will not build a base if they are unable to defend it. Turkish ally in Syria is SNA, and HTS is between Saudia Qatar and Turkey, SDF is with Usa and possibly Israeli backing, FSA is Usa backed, South Israel is trying to gain influence. I mentioned this before, Turkey should have backed Bashar Al Assad and SAA, they countered Israel and SDF, ofcourse they refused to share power with Muslim Brotherhood and allies, and also were secular so they had to go, they also didnt get on well with GCC leadership. Syria is a mess right now.
…….bashar sorry he had his chance during the Arab spring Bashar sadly I really thought he was going to step down eventually I felt like he didn’t even want the role fool me once like people say that’s why d we whatever we may feel about jolani or don’t feel about him we will see what happens if free elections occur for the presidency and if he allows international observers but our track record with Arab and ime going to put quotations on this “Muslim” leaders will show these guys will come in smiling pretending to unite than never leave it’s the cynical side of me
 
Honestly I know Cyprus and north Cyprus more or less cold peace but does either side want to go to war same with Greece and turkey israel is just playing these idiots to raise the heat
Then you're missing the whole point. It's because of Turkey's threats the last 7-8 years and Turkey's meddling in Syria and Libya that we are now in this situation. It's not about Jews playing anyone,like your Turkish friends here repeat non-stop. First they said it was the French,previously the Americans. When they act like a bully and we end up getting some kind of help from some stronger country,they rush to say "oh they are puppets,they are puppets".

What's been happening the last 5 years? Greece has been threatened by Turkey. Israelis too feel threatened by Turkey's sudden rise in the geopolitical arena. What happens when two or more countries worry about a stronger adversary? They come together to discuss solutions on how to defend from any threat.

That's what it is.
 
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