JF-17 PFX program

[Michael]

1. All jeffs to have AESA.
2. All to have pl15.

Do you know how much a KLJ-7A radar system costs?
Is it worth spending that much money to upgrade those old JF-17s?

 

[maxpane]

 

[maxpane]

is it the same on blk 3 or for new jet may be pfx

 

[Ali_Baba]

is it the same on blk 3 or for new jet may be pfx

F16 simulator. I reckon the symbology (thanks DCS!) on the MFDs. Looks like a low fidelity procedure and process training tool.

 

[maxpane]

F16 simulator. I reckon the symbology (thanks DCS!) on the MFDs. Looks like a low fidelity procedure and process training tool.

my bad . i thought its for pfx as its from NSTP

 

[jamal18]

Do you know how much a KLJ-7A radar system costs?
Is it worth spending that much money to upgrade those old JF-17s?

How much are they ?

 

[FuturePAF]

Do you know how much a KLJ-7A radar system costs?
Is it worth spending that much money to upgrade those old JF-17s?

Putting integration costs aside, when the air frame wears out, porting over the avionics and radar from one air frame (and older block 2 JF-17 with the KLJ-7A upgrade) into a new PFX air frame, justify these costs?

 

[PakShaheen_79]

why not go even easier.

Why dont we just bring the JF-17 in house...

we order nuts, bolts, seals etc. Why dont we start making as much as we can at home. modifying, designing, etc.

IMHO, This is what PAF is actually pursuing. No one used word STEALTH and PFX in same sentence during IDEAS 2024 where it was revealed. "4.5+" gen was words used by PAF representative there. Conventional aircraft are here to stay beyond 2050. USAF is churning out F-15EX and F-16 Block 70/72 for a reason. No country can afford to have its entire fleet consisting on 5/6 Gen fighters. Both US and China are producting conventional fighters as well along with next gen aircraft. Even logically, PAF will have to get full command on building a JF-17 type aircraft with local systems and modifications before being qualified to do anything ambitious.

 

[Mrc]

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This must b aesa upgrade for older blocks

 

[maxpane]

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This must b aesa upgrade for older blocks

Ai fake news

 

[Corax]

If only the JF17 really did look like that.

 

[kimjongun]

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If only the JF17 really did look like that.

its front looks like a mig29 and the engine side looks like f16ish while with the paintjob it looks like a mirage 2000...jeff doesnt look inherently bad..it just have to be more sleek

 

[Michael]

How much are they ?

A simple evaluation method:
What is the unit price of the JF-17B1? What is the unit price of the JF-17B3?
Which core components have been upgraded in the JF-17B3 compared to the JF-17B1?

Putting integration costs aside, when the air frame wears out, porting over the avionics and radar from one air frame (and older block 2 JF-17 with the KLJ-7A upgrade) into a new PFX air frame, justify these costs?

I bought a great PC 14 years ago, and it's still running well. It meets most of my needs, but it can't run some of the latest AAA games.

I have two options:
1. Continue using it and not play AAA games;
2. Replace the entire PC with a latest-generation model to play AAA games;

Do you think this PC is worth upgrading parts of it?

 

[FuturePAF]

A simple evaluation method:
What is the unit price of the JF-17B1? What is the unit price of the JF-17B3?
Which core components have been upgraded in the JF-17B3 compared to the JF-17B1?

I bought a great PC 14 years ago, and it's still running well. It meets most of my needs, but it can't run some of the latest AAA games.

I have two options:
1. Continue using it and not play AAA games;
2. Replace the entire PC with a latest-generation model to play AAA games;

Do you think this PC is worth upgrading parts of it?

In my analog, I upgrade the graphics card to the latest specs, and still let it live out on that older rig until the new rig is ready. I gave an option 3, if it is technically possible.

It is the same as a SABR upgrade on the F-16. That radar could outlive the air frame and make its way into a new air frame down the line with better cooling and other system to make full use of its features.

 

[Michael]

In my analog, I upgrade the graphics card to the latest specs, and still let it live out on that older rig until the new rig is ready. I gave an option 3, if it is technically possible.

It is the same as a SABR upgrade on the F-16. That radar could outlive the air frame and make its way into a new air frame down the line with better cooling and other system to make full use of its features.

Maybe, You can check the following:
What are the supported interface transfer speeds of the new graphics cards currently sold on the market?
What is the maximum transfer speed supported by the graphics card interface of a motherboard from 14 years ago?
Of course, you can force them to be compatible. However, the new graphics card will have to operate at reduced efficiency.

You will encounter similar problems when upgrading older fighter jets. If you attempt to comprehensively upgrade an old fighter jet, the cost will exceed that of buying a brand new fighter jet.