Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

«Strategic patience» is suicide. What’s the point waiting for the enemy to bring all their assets?

It's suicide either way, so they hope against hope. This is what happens when you let a 86 yr old with a 4th grade education make policy for the 3rd largest oil rich country. The old man has installed regime insiders in every important organ of the government.....no wonder we're out of water, no nukes, no proxies, no enrichment.....and no money! It's amazing that we're still here in one piece.

 

[Khansaheeb]

There’s still sites to be hit. Entrances of Pick Axe mountain, the Project Amad sites in Parchin. Etc etc



They don’t have fear because they have been emboldened by Trump. Them dying is a benefit to their cause because it forces Trump to enforce his red line. Trump got duped by the same infamous red line that Obama got duped on Assad.

The riots won’t cease because they think this it, the moment of truth and that America will bomb Iran into surrender. There are many middle class people who became poor as the Toman has become worthless. Many youth in the street who are unemployed with no future.

These people have nothing to lose at this point. They will set fire to the country in order to see change. Whether that change is good or bad they don’t care. They are not rationale.

Thanks for giving the Iranians advance warning so they can move the nuke stuff elsewhere. Guess Trump needs something to boast about for midterms.

 

[StrategicBear]

I support Iran using WMD to fight till the end, with the Iranian Rulers saying, "If we're going down, you're all going down with us"

Who else supports Iranian military using WMD to resist a Regime Change?
My motto is "No Pride, No Dignity and No Honor, No Life"

Iranian Leaders should prioritize protecting their dignity than their own lives, as it's better to die resisting the enemy as a Hero rather than to Live as a Slave.

 

[mangekyo]

It's suicide either way, so they hope against hope. This is what happens when you let a 86 yr old with a 4th grade education make policy for the 3rd largest oil rich country. The old man has installed regime insiders in every important organ of the government.....no wonder we're out of water, no nukes, no proxies, no enrichment.....and no money! It's amazing that we're still here in one piece.

If they can’t handle a war when the US has almost no assets in the region, how do they expect to do it when it has gathered all the assets it needs?

 

[ToddE]

Rumor has it that Rohani-Zarif tag team are in house arrests or in jail. They weaponized the currency fall last time they were in power. Will be interesting to see who is doing it now. Khamenei backed Pezeshkian's shit show government earned 112 billion USD just in oil revenues in 2025. Where is the money ?

Simple. IRGC is part of it or more like initiator of it. Revenues got siphoned off. 112 Billion USD in export revenue got diverted to IRGC led front companies and offshore accounts instead of sending that hard currency back to the Central Bank, They keep it outside the country to fund their "war chest" and run a parallel economy where revenues never reach central bank yet imports are paid from the very same bank to cause an artificial deficit. Mullahs never got the hint of what IRGC did right under their noses. IRGC, Larijani + Mokhber factions, current government all seem to have led this coordinated coup which they knew ISrael and US will try to capitalise so it will provide them the oppurtunity to grab the power under pretext of war against superpower. Is there otherwise anyother explanation to this that a country earning ~120 Billion USD just from oil export is suddenly facing inflation ? Remember IRGC led companies run 1000+ tanker fleet that Mullahs cant control. This is Russian style war economy model where the forces themselves can fund an elongated war without concerning with government. This is why I say that Iran is heading towards military run technocracy run on petro economy. IRGC started this probably somewhere under Soleimani times but they are using it now. Ideally for them, war will start so they can finish the coup.

Why are they doing it ? different people have different theories. Iranian political commentators thinks IRGC is hardcore nationalist group dedicated to gaurd the nation, they are part of Iranian deep state of power factions, bureaucrats, intelligence community, scientists, thinkers, business tycoons .... all of them want Mullahs gone because they might see Islamism as un-necessary or themselves as better qualified for running the nation. Ali Shabani of Amwaj thinks that IRGC's grievance started with Khamenei's resistance towards nukes and probably the fact that Soleimani crafted resistance empire from Yemen to Lebanon is lost all because Khamenei could not nuke up the nation despite all the tools available to him at the right time.

 

[Arash]

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Basically, lower your pants and take a deep breathe.........

 

[Arash]

BBC has turned into a total propaganda station, although I won't deny there are corrupt and bad folks in the Iran security services.

Below headline reminds me of "Saddam would execute political prisoners and then send a bill for the bullet to their family".

Iran protests: Authorities demanding large sums for return of protesters' bodies, BBC told

Multiple sources have told BBC Persian that security forces will not release bodies unless relatives hand over money.

www.bbc.com

Looks like they been recycling this headline for awhile.

Bullets for bodies, a sick twist in Iran protests - Asia Times

There are protests and riots across Iran, brutally put down by Iranian security forces and Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corp (IRGC); the government is

asiatimes.com

Poor babies...... crying foul.

 

[aerospace_enthusiast_newb]

2000-3000 MRBMs maybe, but not total missiles including SSMs

I think the numbers are significantly higher personally but I can't prove it. except that the biggest SSM bases were significantly impeded during the war and never saw action meaning their huge missile stockpiles were not accessed and remain available

But how many SRBMs in case of war with U.S? We know that the Iranian SRBMs are significantly more accurate than their MRBMs. We also know that nearly all of them use solid-fuel propellant and that their accompanying TELs are small and more agile.

Surely the SRBMs must be in greater quantity than the MRBMs?

 

[Arash]

I broadly agree, although you are speculating, but it shows you should remain humble and not instantly resort to mocking people.

no CSG and no destroyers in the med means any attack was going to be limited, and Trump wants something decisive and quick

even Israel asked Trump to delay

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Take that kind of info with a good pinch of salt....

 

[ToddE]

Basically, lower your pants and take a deep breathe.........

Only number 4 is possible. Enrichment and HEU should be gotten rid of how when Trump has 50 times atleast claimed that his B2 destroyed them lol. Missiles is a no go zone and is demand of Israel not US. Jews were penetrated with all the MRBMs last time so they want the arsenal gone.

 

[ToddE]

But how many SRBMs in case of war with U.S? We know that the Iranian SRBMs are significantly more accurate than their MRBMs.

Fattah, Kheybar Shikan both are MRBMs yet can hit below 10m CEP. Both of them have never been intercepted despite being used in numbers.

We also know that nearly all of them use solid-fuel propellant and that their accompanying TELs are small and more agile.

Surely the SRBMs must be in greater quantity than the MRBMs?

Atleast 5-8 years back, most numerous missiles were Fateh series and Emad, Ghadr. Since then My own assumption is that Etemad/Emad MaRV, Fattah+Kheybar Shikan skip glide hypersonics, and K-4 (IRBM-PBV), Sejjil (dual staged solid fueled M/IR BM) are the major missiles now. Rest arsenal may have been moved to storage.

Most advanced in the entire arsenal is Fattah and Qasem Basir which is more of an AShBM or pin point strike. Most destructive is K-4 which can deploy 80 bomblets at 3200 KM from its PBV according to IISS.

 

[Davey Crockett]

This news story is about to go viral.....

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Straight to the Point: Iran’s Toxic Tactics

This week on "Straight to the Point", Catherine Herridge sat down with Retired Lieutenant Colonel Al Johnson and Retired Army JAG Al Broadbent who said a new “Agent Orange” crisis may be on our hands.

www.latimes.com

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[mangekyo]

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Very convenient timing

 

[Arash]

Pro-shah Iranian diaspora are as cringy as it can get

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These warmongers seem pretty passed off. But to be honest to everyone here, to me it's just another attempt that failed. Another one will come soon, they won't wait 6 months for the next either........ GET THE BOMB !

 

[ToddE]

Vance looks like grandson of Khomeini