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[mack8]

Don't want to get anyone's hopes up but this was posted yesterday, possibly an export bird and if so possibly iranian, but nothing is confirmed.

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Me i'm resigned we're never going to see Su-35 or something else new in IRIAF colours what with the imminent israeli-US attack coming in the next few days the signs of which the iranians seem to be serenely ignoring, even if they come it's far too late to matter and all they'd do is get destroyed on the ground.

I hope i'm wrong but i have a really bad feeling that the attack is imminent.

 

[ToddE]

Israel was at the limit of the range of its jets capabilities when it attacked Iran but they still managed to degrade Iran's ability to launch missiles as we saw launches drop off each day.

Your logic is wrong. Less launches caused 10 fold more damage than early mass launches. Beersheeba, Eshkol, Soroka, Bazan, Weiznmann, Gav-Yam negev strikes came at mid to end of the war yet

(A) Were never responded by Israel ... target value for target value. These strikes were aimed at oil infra, hospitals, strategic research institutes, tech parks, power stations etc.
(B) As per Israelis themselves who are known to hide casualties or give censored numbers (official gag order on local targetted area coverage), just these late strikes resulted in roughly 3000 injuries.
(C) Less numbers of missiles fired from both sides align with momentum of talks for ceasefire. If we go by your theory, what was stopping Israel from going after oil infrastructure or terminals, nuclear domes, military or strategic HQs in end days of war ?

The lack of an air force, and IADS will cost Iran dearly as its missiles capability will be defanged very quickly for that reason.

Provide evidence for "Iran has no IADS" ?

In reality, Iran has a dense and layered IADS network of OTHs, Search n Track radars, passive sensors, HIMADS, SHORADS etc but like any other IADS on earth including the ones of superpowers, there is just no defence against hypersonic lofted ALBM with separating MaRVs (Golden Horizon) or even some SOWs. Israeli ABM/AD sheild itself despite being full datalinked with US Search/Track assets (ground, air, space) failed to shoot down a single hypersonic or skip glide missile in TP1,3,4 despite being fired (Fattah, Kheybar Shikan). Attack weaponry has left AD far behind. Khinzal, P-800 Oniks/Brahmos, Fattah, Kheybar Shekan, Golden Horizon, Rocks, Blue Sparrow have not been kintelically intercepted despite being fired in wars or conflicts. Even if we go by one sided Ukrainian claim of shooting 5-10 % Khinzals, there exists zero evidence of other types ever been shot down.

 

[ToddE]

Don't want to get anyone's hopes up but this was posted yesterday, possibly an export bird and if so possibly iranian, but nothing is confirmed.

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Me i'm resigned we're never going to see Su-35 or something else new in IRIAF colours what with the imminent israeli-US attack coming in the next few days the signs of which the iranians seem to be serenely ignoring, even if they come it's far too late to matter and all they'd do is get destroyed on the ground.

I hope i'm wrong but i have a really bad feeling that the attack is imminent.

Deliveries are for 2026 and probably for the better. I dont want to see the fleet being attacked on ground. No defense exists on earth against the kind of ALBMs/SOWs we face and we cant excavate more underground bases to hide 50-60 of these huge jets.

 

[Flotilla]

Don't want to get anyone's hopes up but this was posted yesterday, possibly an export bird and if so possibly iranian, but nothing is confirmed.

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Me i'm resigned we're never going to see Su-35 or something else new in IRIAF colours what with the imminent israeli-US attack coming in the next few days the signs of which the iranians seem to be serenely ignoring, even if they come it's far too late to matter and all they'd do is get destroyed on the ground.

Wow, beautiful beast.

If you check the belly the engine nacelle has a much smaller metallic heat shield. Probably that points that it is a newer version and suggest a lower IR signature

Your logic is wrong. Less launches caused 10 fold more damage than early mass launches. Beersheeba, Eshkol, Soroka, Bazan, Weiznmann, Gav-Yam negev strikes came at mid to end of the war yet

I agree.
In reality IRGC did it good. Finished the stock of interceptors you don´t need to send volleys of dozens of missiles. Yo only need to launch six or seven just to destroy with pin-point ability whatever target you want.
That suggest that in reality IRGC could launched much more missiles and just used the necessary quantity to destro the designated target.

IMO IRGC was prepared for a long protracted war.

 

[Nuffle]

While I agree that US combined with their Rogue partner can destroy cave's entrances and jam availability of missiles launch ratios, obviously not all missile forces are under earth. There are many of them just hide in open áreas and also mixed with decoys.

The operation was so problematic that even IDF was not mixed in the aborpted attack. Just USAF involved.

That suggest that IADs is working also.

It was reported that several IAF fighter jets took off shortly before the attack was aborted, so I believe the IAF was involved in this operation.

 

[kastor ville]

Don't want to get anyone's hopes up but this was posted yesterday, possibly an export bird and if so possibly iranian, but nothing is confirmed.

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Me i'm resigned we're never going to see Su-35 or something else new in IRIAF colours what with the imminent israeli-US attack coming in the next few days the signs of which the iranians seem to be serenely ignoring, even if they come it's far too late to matter and all they'd do is get destroyed on the ground.

I hope i'm wrong but i have a really bad feeling that the attack is imminent.

No...Iran is not getting attacked. At least not in the next few weeks. I just read a news article explaining the play by play of what happened during that strike meeting and the 24 hours that followed. Trump simply didn't want to do it....The iranian foreign minister's phone call to witcoff, MBS's phone call and Netanyahu's complaint about not having enough Western forces in the region to shoot down Iran's retaliation...all of those influnces played into him never giving the order.

 

[mangekyo]

Deliveries are for 2026 and probably for the better. I dont want to see the fleet being attacked on ground. No defense exists on earth against the kind of ALBMs/SOWs we face and we cant excavate more underground bases to hide 50-60 of these huge jets.

Will Russia snake Iran again by delivering the planes right before the attack so they get destroyed?

 

[Shags101]

Wow, beautiful beast.

If you check the belly the engine nacelle has a much smaller metallic heat shield. Probably that points that it is a newer version and suggest a lower IR signature



I agree.
In reality IRGC did it good. Finished the stock of interceptors you don´t need to send volleys of dozens of missiles. Yo only need to launch six or seven just to destroy with pin-point ability whatever target you want.
That suggest that in reality IRGC could launched much more missiles and just used the necessary quantity to destro the designated target.

IMO IRGC was prepared for a long protracted war.

So here’s my problem with the whole su 35 honestly it’s really just simple math so let’s say they speed up and send the su 35s to Iran in large numbers maybe send some from existing stocks that Russia already has and let’s say the number is 48 how can 48 defend the entire country if Iran they can’t remain in the ai 24/7 the smartest thing would be to put them in those mountain bases but to protect them from an initial attack but if they can get into the air the numbers would be at 2 to 4 hundred aircraft in the sky from many different points and saying all that they would have to be able to detect those f 35.

I’m just saying Iran is far behind in their Air Force even compared to Qatar to tilt the balance in their favor they would have to destroy as many air bases in the region as possible and make it nearly impossible for those aircraft that were in the sky during the attack to be able to land back at those bases again no military tactician but not any easy feat for one country against many who have been threatened into action if trump decides to do something

 

[Shags101]

Will Russia snake Iran again by delivering the planes right before the attack so they get destroyed?

Honestly honestly Russian china and North Korea decide to intervene meaningful with troops on the ground those aircraft would be the first thing any military would destroy that any air defenses seen as a threat…….i don’t think Russia or china would intervene just saying but honestly as nuts as the Koreans are I really don’t see why they wouldn’t want to send a F you to the world but that’s just fan fiction

 

[ToddE]

Wow, beautiful beast.

If you check the belly the engine nacelle has a much smaller metallic heat shield. Probably that points that it is a newer version and suggest a lower IR signature



I agree.
In reality IRGC did it good. Finished the stock of interceptors you don´t need to send volleys of dozens of missiles. Yo only need to launch six or seven just to destroy with pin-point ability whatever target you want.
That suggest that in reality IRGC could launched much more missiles and just used the necessary quantity to destro the designated target.

IMO IRGC was prepared for a long protracted war.

They did waste missiles initially like launching 200 in one go on extremely defended military targets. It seems like they learned very quickly and changed their tactics to

(A) Tit-for-Tat which surprisingly worked massively since same nature of targets were never chosen again by Israelis pointing to establishment of deterrence.
(B) Chose more sensitive targets where you dont need huge volleys but damage was enough to bring enemy to a ceasefire.

In the next war they will need this tactics from the beginning.

 

[ToddE]

Will Russia snake Iran again by delivering the planes right before the attack so they get destroyed?

Its not the question of when Russia delivers. Its more about where would IRIAF hide this fleet. Without underground bases the entire expensive fleet is open season for ALBMS, SOWS, internal terrorism etc.

 

[Shags101]

They did waste missiles initially like launching 200 in one go on extremely defended military targets. It seems like they learned very quickly and changed their tactics to

(A) Tit-for-Tat which surprisingly worked massively since same nature of targets were never chosen again by Israelis pointing to establishment of deterrence.
(B) Chose more sensitive targets where you dont need huge volleys but damage was enough to bring enemy to a ceasefire.

In the next war they will need this tactics from the beginning.

Honestly use them or lose them especially the older stock but the newer models should have been used last at more sensitive sites and hopefully they have been moved in more secure spots hopefully Iran learned their lessons from the war

 

[Shams313]

Are u guys getting fighter jets or what..The airforce is totally naked.
Hearing a lot news about J!0C and SU35. The YT community and X spreading nonstop procurement BS.

Hoping for SU35 soon.

Iran Could have acquired 50+ of J10C by now.

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[mangekyo]

Its not the question of when Russia delivers. Its more about where would IRIAF hide this fleet. Without underground bases the entire expensive fleet is open season for ALBMS, SOWS, internal terrorism etc.

That was my point. It wouldn’t surprise me if Russia were to coordinate with Israel before delivering the planes.

 

[ToddE]

That was my point. It wouldn’t surprise me if Russia were to coordinate with Israel before delivering the planes.

You are right. They have a close relationship which is OK. One can say that Russia is delivering these huge and expensive air-superiority fleet only because it poses no actual threat to atleast US+Israel. They are mere interceptors since Russia wont give Khinzal and IRGCASF cant fit Fattah or KS as ALBM beneath them. Surface attack Missile tech is advancing very fast if we go by recent most wars or conflicts. Airbases if not underground are open targets for hypersonic BMS, supersonic SOWs/CMs and no ABM/AD can provide survival of billions of USD worth planes, fighter or force multipliers.

Against other foes yes, equation changes though.