Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

No, I'm talking about the 12-day war. After Israel attacked Iran, oil prices went up for about $2 and went down again after 48 hours.

I honestly think that the idea of closing the Strait of Hormuz or hitting the energy infrastructure of neighboring countries is nonsense. The Islamic Republic is corrupt to the core and all their family members live abroad. They would never do that because there's just too much collateral (i.e. their families). Also, they would never upset China like that. These plans are like those foolish dreams of destroying Haifa and Tel Aviv.

Maybe....maybe, but a credible threat may give Trump pause. I don't even think they have the balls to do that. We're talking a seismic economic event that could have a multi year effect on the energy market.
Option B is to negotiate and give up everything...for sanction relief,
Option C is to die a slow death, culminating in another violent outbreak with many, many Iranian civilians dying.....and a chaos that would give Israel the perfect opportunity to destroy all of our defenses. Also, using that opportunity to arm the Kurds, Baluch, Azeri, and Arab minority to roll up Iran into a failed state.

 

[kastor ville]

- "We will not leave ballistic missiles in Iran's hands.

Ballistic missiles are an existential threat no less than the Iranian nuclear program, and we understand the pressures from Arab parties in the region.

It's possible, as in the Twelve-Day War or in other cases, that Israel will take the first steps to war," - Yaakov Bardugo of Israeli Channel 14.

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As long as we don't get pounded by the US, or have a civil war, Israel cannot do jackshit about out BMs.
I repeat, they can't even defend against our small barrage, after a surprise attack that killed the entire leadership, and destroyed a lot of our defense network.....imagine what would happen now.
If Iran did nothing....they proved Israel is a paper tiger, a mere bully....that needs to be punched in the nose every now and again to remind them they're tiny and powerless without the US.
The winds of change in the US are blowing hard....Israel's tight grip on DC maybe be coming to an end.

 

[kastor ville]

Name "all" of there family members that live abroad

Are you serious, they just fired Larijani's daughter from her job ....they also fired another one is the former VP's son Eissa Hashemi....there are also a news report about approx 4000 children of regime insiders living abroad.

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

JD Vance on Iran:

The person who makes the decisions in Iran is the Supreme Leader. The President doesn't really matter.

The Foreign Minister seems to talk to the Supreme Leader and that's mainly the person that we've communicated with.

But it's a very weird country to conduct diplomacy with when you can't even talk to the person who's in charge of the country.

Trump can pick up the phone and call Putin. He can pick up the phone and call Xi. Even countries that we have very hostile relations with.

It is bizarre that we can't just talk to the actual leadership of Iran. It really makes diplomacy very difficult.

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Khamenei refuses to talk and negotiate with the US directly. JD Vance is very obviously p'ssed.

With that logic, Iran should make diplomacy with rothschild and bankers and/or people behind likes of epsteins not random dudes/gals in white house or congress.

i'm Not diplomacy fan under current conditions.

 

[Hayabusa]

- "We will not leave ballistic missiles in Iran's hands.

Ballistic missiles are an existential threat no less than the Iranian nuclear program, and we understand the pressures from Arab parties in the region.

It's possible, as in the Twelve-Day War or in other cases, that Israel will take the first steps to war," - Yaakov Bardugo of Israeli Channel 14.

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.Israel may keep downplaying the impact of those missile strikes on its sites, but it surely has created a psychological impact. That is why they are pursuing the need to cancel Iran's ballistic missile program.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

So, they are not even waiting for the outcome of the meeting planned for tomorrow? Obviously, this whole meeting was a ruse until all assets were in place.

When you're under the scanner than every movement is a give... Iran did the right thing by moving the venue... however... for US and zion a decapitation strike means that all locations and key personnel are marked. Flip the switch on zion... play the unofficial reverse... become the hunter instead of the one hunted.

 

[mulj]

So far most realistic course of war will be that jews attacks first and Iran retaliates then americans would step along the way to "protect" them, only viable narrative path so far for me.

 

[Mehdipersian]

an emirati businesswoman gifted a piece which arrived after he was already in jail. The pieces are as big as a smartphone, cant be used as a rug.
please do not malign the Kiswa for some petty geopolitical rivalry

To perform witchcraft and satanic rituals, sacred objects need to be disrespected. Epstein needed the Kaaba curtain for this.

The things you mentioned are just excuses for the Arab media to cover up the story of the Arab leaders' connection with Epstein.

Genocide in Gaza has made everything clear and there is no need for a better reason.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

- "We will not leave ballistic missiles in Iran's hands.

Ballistic missiles are an existential threat no less than the Iranian nuclear program, and we understand the pressures from Arab parties in the region.

It's possible, as in the Twelve-Day War or in other cases, that Israel will take the first steps to war," - Yaakov Bardugo of Israeli Channel 14.

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And this is major concern. Zion got Putin's ear! They can make deal on the side and Russia quietly starts walking the wayside.

However, both Russia and China can give that crucial heads up to Iran as well on the incoming...

 

[StrategicBear]

Iran's BM must stay with Iran until the end of the world.

Israel can't do shit about it, and if anyone tries to use WMD on Iran then Iran can justifiably retaliate with WMD of her own. Don't give in to bullies but destroy them completely so they won't exist anymore to bully anyone ever again.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

To perform witchcraft and satanic rituals, sacred objects need to be disrespected. Epstein needed the Kaaba curtain for this.

The things you mentioned are just excuses for the Arab media to cover up the story of the Arab leaders' connection with Epstein.

Who believes in witchcraft in 21st century?

There's no evidence of what you are saying.. There's lot of cooked up / fake stories being made but no sane person should believe on anything without hard proofs. Don't believe on AI generated photos. I see many people in social media becoming fools and commenting on obviously fake/AI photos.

Above post clearly shows that you have a mindset which has a tendency of believing in conspiracy theories, cooked up stories. You should see things factually & objectively.

See, a genocide happened in Gaza. Israel committed a heinous crime. None of islamic countries did a thing to stop it. This is already a tragedy. Most of islamic countries (incl Pakistan) wants to be in good books of US. Everyone of them fears from the US because of its enormous economic grip influence over the globe. These are already the facts of the world we live in. No need to create conspiracies and cooked up stories like (gifted curtain of kaaba). It only discredit the facts on ground. Relying on hard facts is enough to shame islamic world as a whole.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Iran's BM must stay with Iran until the end of the world.

Correct 100%! That is Iran's only deterrence. Otherwise Israelis/US would come anytime like a walk in a park. If Iran would not have BMs then it would already become Venezuela case.

Israel can't do shit about it, and if anyone tries to use WMD on Iran then Iran can justifiably retaliate with WMD of her own. Don't give in to bullies but destroy them completely so they won't exist anymore to bully anyone ever again.

Iran do not have WMDs. Why on earth you want to believe in fantasies? Why not prefer facts over fiction ? Iran themselves have said numerous times that they are not pursuing WMDs. They never will. They even have a fatwa on it. What else needs to be done to convince you? Above all, now its not even possible in foreseeable future as the ciritical infrastructure is destroyed by the US.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

The winds of change in the US are blowing hard....Israel's tight grip on DC maybe be coming to an end.

I disagree, the "armada" is brought to persian gulf only because of Israel's demands. Otherwise US should have absolutely no problem with Iran. It is only Israel that feels threatened by Iran's BM program.

I think grip of Israel over US middleeast policy is still intact and it will remain so regardless of republicans or democrats. They fund and own both sides.

 

[TallGuy]

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CENTCOM shares new footage from the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, sailing near Iran.

Is that Mavrick from TopGun2?

 

[ToddE]

Can't confirm this and likely wishful thinking on your part. You often leap to conclusions despite the absence of evidence to back your claims.

Among all your neighbors, Turkey likely possesses the most accurate insights regarding Tehran, and political analysts and decision-makers in Ankara are saying the same:

There is a major infighting in Tehran, an internal power struggle, with decision-makers frequently "overruling" each other's "instructions".

People here are overly focused on military technicalities, battlefield strategies and potential unrest in Iran. While all of this unfolds in the Middle East, there is also an ongoing conflict within the IRI. In this regard, you are correct, and I acknowledge that. However, it is by no means as straightforward and "already decided" as you would like to portray here. The outcome remains uncertain.

Do you genuinely believe that Erdogan proposed Iran's oil, gas, and mineral resources to the US on a whim without prior consultation with Tehran? Or do you think the Turkish government would arrange a meeting between Washington and Tehran in Istanbul without receiving approval from Tehran?

Based on my understanding of the Iranian dynamics from Turkish sources, it appears there is quite a chaotic, if not nearly frantic, exchange of contradicting statements and decisions coming from Tehran.

This should worry us, not make us happy. I don't understand your optimism.

- Turkey has a ~600 Billion USD western (Jew controlled) debt. Thats Almost half your GDP. Without it, your economy will be destroyed as Turkey has no resources like IRI. It happened before when Lira got crushed to rubble. Stupid or reduced iq people will say here oh thats just business but its not. These western financial institutions work as a financial weapon to have leverages over governments. The hand that feeds you controls your strategic decision making.

- Turkey kept on supplying 5-6 Billion USD worth raw material including oil to Israel (and still is) when entire population of Gaza Sunni Arabs were minced and turned into meat shreds by Israel. Erdogan's empty speeches against Israel may fool Pakistanis and Bengaldeshis here but we know the reality.

- Turkey made sure that by installing CIA/Mossad backed Jolani into Syria, Iran/Iraqi access to Hezbollah is cut permanently so Israel can do to Lebanon as it pleases, the threat up north for Israel is gone forever thanks to Turkey! Israel has been freely bombing Lebanon now, may even create a buffer wasteland inside Lebanon, thanks to Turkey.

I am not against Turkish people, we are same blood. I am just saying the facts here. From your POV, all above may be righteous of Turkey. So be it for all I care. But these are the reasons IRI is not trusting Turkey. You need to understand IRI POV as well.