Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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they understand it won't be like Venezuela
 
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guess Fidan lied

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What a hollow man this Trump is....I mean one day, it's enrichment, the next is ballistic missiles, and another day is executions.....what a clown, what a nightmare to deal with this man child.
 
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kobra said:
Looks like Satanyahu got what he wanted yesterday in his meeting with orange man. All current and upcoming deployments of US forces points towards a shock and awe strike on Iran.
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Still....if you were to study Trump, he will insist on a quick action, not a prolonged conflict.
I still think this is bluster.
If I'm wrong....his administration will be finished in the US.
When the economy gets rocked.....MAGA will be done.
I just hope Iran is planning, and planning with China and Russia to turn this into a Vietnam for him.
If they can't then they better just fold the cards and give it up.
They need to talk about this....it's either a slow death or going out with a blaze of glory.......the 2nd option is actually better for Iran, but they need to go all out.....no half measures. They need to shock the energy market, not just mine the Strait. They need to think about UAE's gas terminal and pipeline. Don't even bother with the empty US bases.....go for Israel and the Israeli outpost....that's it.
 
Hassan Al-Somal said:
It is possible he received a signal from some of his handlers that another batch of Epstein files is about to be dropped. Trump could be releasing these tough talks against Iran fo please Netanyahu and his ilk. It looks like Trump will be a push around for his handlers in the next 3 years. He must be regretting the day he ran for office!
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As I have repeatedly said in this thread: Netanyahu is not going to stop neutralizing Iran as long as Trump is the President!!! I had paid attention to what the Israel-firsters in America and what the Israelis themselves were rooting for in the 2024 elections and it was unmistakable what they wanted: A President Trump over a President Harris. Even the usually liberal Jews in America, who after four decades, voted the least for the Democratic Party in the 2024 elections.
What you are seeing in the Middle East is because Israel's own man is in the White House with a level of support which surpassed even Biden's support.

I am surprised no one posted this here. Reuters is generally a credible source. God help us all if there is a frontal war!! The front page of Reuters:

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kastor ville said:
Still....if you were to study Trump, he will insist on a quick action, not a prolonged conflict.
I still think this is bluster.
If I'm wrong....his administration will be finished in the US.
When the economy gets rocked.....MAGA will be done.
I just hope Iran is planning, and planning with China and Russia to turn this into a Vietnam for him.
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If rookies like us here know what you said above then the Iranians too know. But the problem is that this is not America's war: It is Israel's war and for the Israeli interests. While every American President since 1967 had supported Israel, the level of support by Biden and now Trump is unprecendent. This would NOT be happening if today Trump dies of a heart attack and Vance become the President. You can bookmark this. Which brings me to my main point: The so-called American vaunted checks and balances are in tatters as one man--just one man and his personal biases are leading to huge decisions affecting tens of millions of people.
What we have in the White House is another Hitler but a senile Hitler.

kastor ville said:
If they can't then they better just fold the cards and give it up.
They need to talk about this....it's either a slow death or going out with a blaze of glory.......the 2nd option is actually better for Iran, but they need to go all out.....no half measures. They need to shock the energy market, not just mine the Strait. They need to think about UAE's gas terminal and pipeline. Don't even bother with the empty US bases.....go for Israel and the Israeli outpost....that's it.
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If Iran doesn't resist now then it will be another nation to be fragmented and bombed by Israel at will. Netanyahu wants nothing less than that for Iran.
 
To re-emphasize: As long as Netanyahu is the PM of Israel and as long as Trump is the POTUS, the threat of a frontal, devastating war on Iran will remain. On that , we have about three more years of Trump and I don't know how long more the world has to suffer Netanyahu: He has more than the 9 proverbial lives. Things don't look good at all for tens of millions of people with the current combination of leaders in Tel Aviv and Washington.

But as far as I can tell, a frontal attack on Iran will be devastating for America's regional interests along with Trump's political standing in America, and quite likely really bad for Israel itself.
 
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US is ramping us psychological warfare as Trump views such military threats as part of his negotiating strategy
 
Persian Gulf said:
US is ramping us psychological warfare as Trump views such military threats as part of his negotiating strategy
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Indeed.
But as I said above, if rookies like us know, then the Iranian officials must know that too.
Trump is a bully who has gotten away with pressurising Colombia, Venezuela, the EU, India and several other nations to get concessions from them. But here what he is asking of Iran is impossible for Iran to give: Iran's ballistic missiles system.
I wonder what Netanyahu whispered into Trump's reluctant ears when Netanyahu came to Washington just a day or two ago?!!
 
Trump may be a bully, but here we don't entertain the thought of accommodating him because we're in the business of overthrowing White Supremacy off the face of this Earth, and Trump and USA's fall is the first step towards this goal of ours.

Trump should prepare to lick Khamenei's shoe and bark like a dog, "Woof".
 
StrategicBear said:
Trump may be a bully, but here we don't entertain the thought of accommodating him because we're in the business of overthrowing White Supremacy off the face of this Earth, and Trump and USA's fall is the first step towards this goal of ours.

Trump should prepare to lick Khamenei's shoe and bark like a dog, "Woof".
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Trump is bluff master but his leash in Epstein file .
 
StrategicBear said:
Trump may be a bully, but here we don't entertain the thought of accommodating him because we're in the business of overthrowing White Supremacy off the face of this Earth, and Trump and USA's fall is the first step towards this goal of ours.
Trump should prepare to lick Khamenei's shoe and bark like a dog, "Woof".
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Care to elaborate, please? It's late night where I am so plain speaking for the tired minds like mine much appreciated.
 
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they understand it won't be like Venezuela
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Ok, they will bomb Iran weeks long then what if Iran still retains its capability to fire his own missiles?
If this happens Iran has no other choice then to burn everything around itself.
 
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