Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Oscar]

Listen to these clowns calling Iran's move an escalation.....meanwhile the US has 33% of their naval force in Iran's backyard.....this is the type of knuckleheads in charge in the US. Ahh, the humanity

Iran possibly repositions strike drones amid Russia drills in Strait, expert says

Defense expert Cameron Chell called Iran's military moves a "calculated escalation" as U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drones with strike capabilities were reportedly spotted in the region.

www.foxnews.com

There is a reason for this as well. Because republicans have been able to market themselves much better than democrats ever could and more importantly the introduction of social media has led to shorter attention spans.

It is very much a dystopian world emerging and unfortunately things are heading towards what will be some rather dark times with various extreme ideologies all over being more successful along with reduction of rights everywhere. Covid was the trigger - call it engineered or by happenstance.

Just as ecosystems when threatened tend to devolve - shifting to less diverse, pioneer species under stress from climate change, pollution, or habitat loss the same will happen with humanity which under ideological, economic, and institutional pressures reverts to tribalism and simplified survival strategies. This pattern appears in rising polarization and violence, where complex cooperation yields to zero-sum conflicts.

This has happened prior to the Persian Empire as well - where warlords took over so it is possible that even post an attack instead of some planted Pehlavi all over its more IRGC type fiefdoms - I hope it does not but this has historical precedent.

 

[Oscar]

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The challenges for Anti Ship ballistic missiles go beyond maneuverability - and are more dependent upon having surveillance and targeting in place . Without persistent, real-time ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) networks they are flying blind. Iran's coastal radars are all prone to jamming and satellites are an unknown.

 

[Falcon29]

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US pilots may struggle more than Israeli pilots as they're trying to land on aircraft carriers under fire.

Israeli F35 pilots stay in the air until they go back to Syria and back to Israel. It's less risky mission for their pilots.

That's why US crashed two F18's during campaign against Houthi's. While Israel didn't lose a single fighter jet.

Supposedly US jets had to steer while on aircraft carrier to avoid a Houthi AA fire. While one jet was going to hit the corner of the carrier and pilot ejected.

Anyway as an American I really don't want our soldiers dying in this war. Neither do Trump supporters. It would be better for Trump to restrain Israel not only in Iran but also Lebanon and Gaza to ensure peace and deescalate the situation overall.

 

[kastor ville]

There is a reason for this as well. Because republicans have been able to market themselves much better than democrats ever could and more importantly the introduction of social media has led to shorter attention spans.

It is very much a dystopian world emerging and unfortunately things are heading towards what will be some rather dark times with various extreme ideologies all over being more successful along with reduction of rights everywhere. Covid was the trigger - call it engineered or by happenstance.

Just as ecosystems when threatened tend to devolve - shifting to less diverse, pioneer species under stress from climate change, pollution, or habitat loss the same will happen with humanity which under ideological, economic, and institutional pressures reverts to tribalism and simplified survival strategies. This pattern appears in rising polarization and violence, where complex cooperation yields to zero-sum conflicts.

This has happened prior to the Persian Empire as well - where warlords took over so it is possible that even post an attack instead of some planted Pehlavi all over its more IRGC type fiefdoms - I hope it does not but this has historical precedent.

Best post of the month...if not the year.
Brother, we're on the same wavelength.

 

[Falcon29]

The challenges for Anti Ship ballistic missiles go beyond maneuverability - and are more dependent upon having surveillance and targeting in place . Without persistent, real-time ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) networks they are flying blind. Iran's coastal radars are all prone to jamming and satellites are an unknown.

Forgive my ignorance, but do guidance systems of these anti ship missiles depend on coastal radars or are they heat seeking or how do they work?

I absolutely agree with your points. Iran cannot sink an aircraft carrier. But it has ability to disrupt operations if we look at Yemen example.

US used F-35 lightning, F18 and F16 in that operation against Ansarallah in Yemen. Houthis fired mix of drones, cruise missiles and anti ship ballistic missiles at one carrier. Probably a small number, maybe one or a few came close to hitting, but it stressed the crew and caused two F18's to crash. Could be pilot error but the pressure likely played a role.

I don't believe US military could lose this war but the US government most certainly can. US cannot defend the energy infrastructure well enough in the region. Nor it's bases as well as Israel protected. I really believe Israel is more protected than the US military because US government prioritizes Israel over our own military.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Falcon29]

Don't use our military to help the modern Nazi state which is engaged in an active Holocaust in Gaza

Absolutely no way the global public gets behind a war on behalf of Israel

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[GWXP]

It seems like, based on experience of the 12 Day War, Trump now believes Iran is bluffing when it threatens to close the Strait of Hormuz.

If US starts a shooting war, Iran should take out entire Kuwaiti oil industry as a warning and to impose costs on the West.

Iran and its people must not be afraid of war with the US.

Trump/Netanyahu's bark is worse than their bite.

 

[Falcon29]

Latest Updates on the U.S. Military Buildup in the Middle East

• 6× E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft have either already arrived or are en route to the Middle East. Four Sentries were forward-deployed from Ramstein AB and RAF Mildenhall to Prince Sultan AB in Saudi Arabia, while two remain at Ramstein.

• 6× F-22 Raptor stealth fighters arrived yesterday at RAF Lakenheath, bringing the total to 12 jets. These jets are expected to fly to the Middle East within the coming days.

• 36× F-16 fighter jets are either already forward-deployed to the Middle East or preparing to deploy from Lajes. The jets were from Aviano (12), Spangdahlem (+12), and McEntire Joint National Guard Base (12).

• 30× U.S. Air Force F-35A Lightning II fighters have arrived in the Middle East, 18 from RAF Lakenheath and 12 from Morón/Rota Air Bases.

• 6× EA-18G Growler electronic warfare aircraft are deployed at Muwaffq al-Salti Air Base and are now operating out of the base.

• 2× E-11A Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN) aircraft [carrying tail numbers N770AG and 22-9046] have departed Ramstein and arrived at Prince Sultan AB, Saudi Arabia. There are now 5 BACNs stationed there.

• 1× RC-135 Rivet Joint signals intelligence (SIGINT) aircraft is scheduled to deploy from Homestead to Chania, Greece. This will increase the number of Rivet Joints based there to two, as the aircraft that had been operating near Iran for the past month has now repositioned to Chania as well.

• U.S. airlift operations with C-17 Globemaster III and C-5M Super Galaxy heavy-lift aircraft continue in the region, with over 210 flights recorded so far since mid-January 2026. This includes around 21 C-5M flights to Al Udeid AB (Qatar), Prince Sultan AB (Saudi Arabia), and Camp Lemonnier (Djibouti).

• ~50 U.S. aerial refueling tankers, including KC-135s and KC-46s, are currently positioned across the Middle East (Al Udeid and Prince Sultan ABs), and nearby locations, as Diego Garcia, Chania in Greece, and Sofia Airport in Bulgaria.

• USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is approaching the Strait of Gibraltar and is expected to stay in East Med, off Israel. Meanwhile, the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group continues to operate off Oman in the Arabian Sea.

• 5× U.S. Navy guided missile destroyers are operating independently in the region, not including those in CSGs: two in the Mediterranean, two in the Strait of Hormuz/Persian Gulf, and one in the Red Sea.

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[asifhaq]

The challenges for Anti Ship ballistic missiles go beyond maneuverability - and are more dependent upon having surveillance and targeting in place . Without persistent, real-time ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) networks they are flying blind. Iran's coastal radars are all prone to jamming and satellites are an unknown.

You guys should recall the sinking of the Russian flagship in the Black Sea all it took was a couple of drones and one anti-ship missel to send it to the bottom.

 

[Falcon29]

It seems like, based on experience of the 12 Day War, Trump now believes Iran is bluffing when it threatens to close the Strait of Hormuz.

If US starts a shooting war, Iran should take out entire Kuwaiti oil industry as a warning and to impose costs on the West.

Iran and its people must not be afraid of war with the US.

Trump/Netanyahu's bark is worse than their bite.

IRGC is not afraid and won't be restrained this time around.

Problem is their airspace is vulnerable following the 12 day war. They probably didn't anticipate fighting an entirely asymmetric war with the US and/or Israel in this sense.

IRGC is not like Hezbollah (imo more ideologically tough/motivated than Hezbollah). They're probably having same risk tolerant posture as Hamas right before 10/7 but for different reasons. Because strategic patience has bought time and served its role up to this point. Now a different posture is entering into play.

 

[Falcon29]

This situation sucks for Iran in the sense window to preemptive attack successfully has kind of gone with all the defenses in the region and early warning radars.

Hamas saw writing on the wall that Israel will attempt takeover of Gaza in Trump's second term so it pre-empted it and caused significant damage on Israel.

Iranian government doesn't want to be seen as irresponsible and can't take risks like Hamas so it didn't preemptively strike. This means Iranian 1st and 2nd wave of retaliations will not be that effective so we will have to be patient if US attacks, people on this forum will be screaming for retaliation or be defeated for a week or so. Iran will then later get back on its footing.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

There are people who don't seem to understand and are very impressed by the US arms imports into the region, but you're forgetting a major point: IRAN.

Russia, China, and Belarus supply weapons to Iran, and the Iranian military industry mass-produces weapons 24/7. Every day, weapons of different types leave the factories. And that, too, is very impressive.

 

[kastor ville]

The first wave of attacks is going to be on the missile bases.....they can't execute their plan if Iran can still keep firing missiles.....Knowing this Iran should be planning to have options outside of missile bases.
second, every command and communication building will be targeted, knowing this Iran should move the entire brain network of the military to an offsite hidden location or to hardened bunkers.
Every division should have their own battle plans that they will need to execute in case of a comms black out.......they need to be independent of central command, if they get cutoff.
As far as the naval assets are concerned...the carrier needs to be the main target, this way the sorties will be reduced, and give time for the Iranian missile command to target airbases.

 

[aerospace_enthusiast_newb]

Can you give me their names ? Anything is possible with Trump and Netanyahu , they are amoral sick killers. But using a nuke is crossing a very dangerous red line and will be followed up by Russia doing the same to Ukraine and a mass scramble for nukes around the world. Hence I don't think it's going to happen.

He is almost certainly talking about Col. Daniel Davis, he has a show on youtube.