New-Chill Bangladesh Thread

[MNZGamerX]

And yet he complains.

Yes I do because the claim the moderation here has been fair and reasonable is a lie

 

[LeonBlack08]

Yes there was indeed a conspiracy that they elections would not happen and that was discussed in Bangladesh on social media but went ahead anyway because the situation changed and the Jamaat thought they could win. Yes there was a situation where the Jamaatis were using the Deep State to engineer the elections and these allegations also appeared prominently on social media. That they were effectively outmanuvered is their fault. Don't twist the situation to justfiy the slanted moderation policy here.

Yes, no more slanted moderation. From now on zero tolerance for threads with Indian fake news in this section.

 

[MNZGamerX]

Every time I used to peek here there would be a thread started by him based on an article from Indian fake news media and there was no action taken. It was appalling to say the least.

And those India fake news media articles proved more accurate then the Jamaati crap others were posting. As I keep saying it is always a good idea to know what the other side are doing and thinking. The only thing appalling is how pathetic the moderation here is and that they cannot admit that they have been anything less than objective or fair.

 

[MNZGamerX]

Indian fake news in this section

So anything that counters the trash Jamaati propagandas will be called Indian fake news ... The only thing that is fake is the moderation in the Bangladesh section. You moderators are really full of yourselves

 

[MNZGamerX]

It is because the Jamaati types and their sympathizers chose to be blind to what the so called fake Indian news media were saying is reason they got trashed. Falsely accusing people of being pro-AL or pro-Indian and abusing and banning them just because they disagreed with the Jamaat propaganda led to their over-confidence and arrogance. A person can be both pro-AL or pro-Indian without being Jamaat. It is because the Jamaatis refused to understand this they faced this debacle at the polls. Their intolerance and inability to see other views or analyze the Indian news media made them blind as to what was coming. The moderators here are continuing to perpetuate that perspective while pretending to be objective and fair minded. I call BS on that.

 

[LeonBlack08]

So anything that counters the trash Jamaati propagandas will be called Indian fake news ... The only thing that is fake is the moderation in the Bangladesh section. You moderators are really full of yourselves

No, fake news will be treated as fake news. Be it Jamaati or Indian. Just like the rest of the sections in this forum. There is a policy against posting fake news.

If we compare your Indian news threads, vs whatever you are claiming as Jamaati, it's not even a comparison. You have out posted everyone and not once your threads were taken down in this section. I know it was taken down in other sections by other Mods for propaganda. And yet you are complaining about fairness.

We don't need to give Indian Godi media a platform.

If you have moderation concerns, take it to GHQ. End of discussion here.

 

[MNZGamerX]

Do you think The India Doctrine (1947-2007) could have been written without analyzing the Indian media, expert analyses and commentaries. In fact 60% of the book consists of that and countering the Indian viewpoint. Do any of you moderators have any idea how analysis actually works?

 

[MNZGamerX]

If you have moderation concerns, take it to GHQ. End of discussion here.

I did that last time and got banned. So much for your pretense at objectivity and fair mindedness. My posts in other sections got taken down because they were critical of certain aspects of Pakistan or China policy. Had nothing to do with India or the AL or Bangladesh. There are certain restriction in this PDF that prevents discussion of politically sensitive topics concerning Pakistan, USA and China. I am not sure why that should apply in the Bangladesh section as well.

 

[MNZGamerX]

So basically, the evidence behind your claim is "stranger things have happened". Sounds convincing!

Well it will last longer than your prediction that the AL is not making a comeback which was contradicted within minutes. If the AL does make a complete comeback it will be without Hasina and many of her close family as it would not be acceptable in Bangladesh and the Indians know it.

 

[LeonBlack08]

Do you think The India Doctrine (1947-2007) could have been written without analyzing the Indian media, expert analyses and commentaries. In fact 60% of the book consists of that and countering the Indian viewpoint. Do any of you moderators have any idea how analysis actually works?

No, you are the only expert here and we are all cab drivers, as your UK Sylheti buddies like to claim. We don't have real life jobs nor academic credentials.

You can research and of course try to understand the other sides POV. I agreed with you on that that and which is why I never stopped you opening threads from Indian media.

But there is a thin line about following Godi media to understand their mindset to actually start absorbing every piece of trash they pump out. You appear to have crossed that threshold and you are no longer objective in your research. The fact that you are defending Godi media being right is the proof of that.

Also - after Noam Chomsky being outed in the Epstein file, my tolerance and trust in public figures in general has gone. Now I realize anyone can be "controlled opposition" irrespective of their life's work.

 

[MNZGamerX]

But there is a thin line about following Godi media to understand their mindset to actually start absorbing every piece of trash they pump out. You appear to have crossed that threshold and you are no longer objective in your research. The fact that you are defending Godi media being right is the proof of that.

Also - after Noam Chomsky being outed in the Epstein file, my tolerance and trust in public figures in general has gone. Now I realize anyone can be "controlled opposition" irrespective of their life's work.

At no point did I absorb the Godi media and if I have crossed that threshold and am no longer objective in my research THEN PROVE IT. Don't just throw around your opinion without proof. The reason I got banned had nothing to do with any fake Indian media articles but because I exposed the Jamaat slant of some moderators. Please stop your lies. They are pathetic. Your reference to Noam Chomsky and the Epstein files shows an another desperate attempt to discredit me without proof. Show me one instance and proof that I have been implicated with the Indians or the AL or any other nefarious grouping. Easy to make aspersions. Now prove it.

 

[MNZGamerX]

No, you are the only expert here and we are all cab drivers, as your UK Sylheti buddies like to claim. We don't have real life jobs nor academic credentials.

I have never claimed that I am the only expert here but your perspective is extremely deficient and patronizing. You have thrown a number of allegations against me without a single piece of evidence and I have countered all your observations. I was not banned due to any news items or articles I posted but because I exposed a Jamaati slant in the moderation and complained to GHQ and got banned.

What did you mean my UK Sylheti buddies? What are you trying to imply now? Make it clear.

 

[BananaRepublic]

It is certainly a possibility and the AL may be on the way to that as even if the AL were to make a comeback it cannot be with members of the Sheikh family who are all implicated in the last regime. The same could happen in the BNP but there would need to be something similar to happen as in 2024. For a while that might leave the door open for the Jamaatis but more likely the military will need to take over in a transitionary period till things settle down. If there were two non-dynastic parties that would probably be good for the country.



Yes the Jamaat's main failure was it could not become broad based enough like the AKP and could not appeal to the majority so relied on anti-Indian and anti-AL sentiment but that could only get it so far.



I was always opposed to the Jamaat joining hands with the secretive and notorious Choton gang to gain power and it was the betrayal of a faction therein that led to the crashing defeat. The JI also relied too much on American and Pakistani support thinking that was enough to get it a majority. It's campaign for the whole 18 months was wholly negative, manipulative, abusive, deceitful and duplicitous. Without the AL not being on the scene the Jamaat got a bump but that will dissipate over time even if the AL is not there. If the AL were to make a return as a non-dynastic party then it would be all over for the JI unless they can fundamentally change their tactics, methods and perspectives.

You can check my posting history, going back years, but even as a mega Hasina fan….

I wanted her to give up politics in 2030.

And an end to dynastic politics in BAL.

I think the same will happen to BNP once Tareq runs out of steam.

This election has confirmed what we already knew about the vast majority of Bangladeshis:

1. Pluralistic
2. Nationalists
3. Peaceful

Once thing vast majority of Bangladeshis despise are Islamists.

Ps, even as a mega Hasina fan - I have never abused you for being critical and harsh towards Hasina. Your opinions are always fair and based on fact.

Contrast that with the fake democrats who banned you!

Anyway, welcome back!

You are one of the few original thinkers here!

 

[MNZGamerX]

Ps, even as a mega Hasina fan - I have never abused you for being critical and harsh towards Hasina. Your opinions are always fair and based on fact.

Thank you for that and I hope the mutual tolerance will expand on this forum so there is a free exchange of views rather than the kind of selective baiting that has been going on.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Thank you for that and I hope the mutual tolerance will expand on this forum so there is a free exchange of views rather than the kind of selective baiting that has been going on.

If you cannot see the negative aspects of your own side - not only that - but attack anyone who points it out then you are a cult member.

Being pluralistic means - you accept you aren’t perfect and other people have the right to highlight it.

You need to accept that in your personal life, religious life, work life to political life.

The responsibility on the critic is to do it constructively, empathy, honestly and based on fact.

If you ignore the Jamati fanatics on this forum - we have that.

I see the constructive honest critic even from some Indians like @SoulSpokesman.