Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Exped-33]

But, the question is, does USA need to do more than 200 strikes per day to exert a sustained amount of military pressure on Tehran? Those 200 strikes per day may be sufficient to cripple infrastructure, oil supply chains etc.

I am only speculating of course. I just see no reason to assume USA's supply chain for munitions is somehow compromised. Other nations from around the world have also been summoned to supply munitions to fill any supply chain gaps, which would have been expected.

Hormuz Strait blockade remains Iran's best strategy to harm its enemy economically.

That and bombing Tel Aviv. Make Israelis rebel against their pedophile leader.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

That is a general statement that applies to everybody who allows hatred to flourish, no matter who, since hatred only destroys the hater by disallowing rationality and logic.

No matter who it is.

Listen... hater can hate all they want within their four walls... US and zion are not those haters... these bite. And during negotiations!

 

[r3alist]

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

what is there for China to do?? Iran is fighting remarkably well right now. So far none of US strategic goals have been achieved

this war is poised to become another big L for Trump 2.0. way bigger than Doge and tariffs I'd say

Right and right!
However this donkey pulling cart for zion and that demon is on short fuse.
They'll take the world with them is their moto!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I have to agree with @VCheng

this is not looking good

 

[PakAl]

One of the biggest victory of Pedo alliance is massive propaganda or perception maintenance maneuvering they have done by enforcing total censorship over their own losses. Despite reports, despite people coming out and telling the amount of damage, bodies etc we have no means to prove. Jews are extra sensitive to being perceived weak.

IRGC targeted Haifa refinery last night, Russian accounts on twitter were saying there was massive clouds of fire but we have no way of knowing.

Have you seen all the zionist Muslim propaganda on social media, all celebrating attacks on Iran, and yes they have big long beards and claim to represent Islam. Any real Muslim will oppose this war but zionist puppets will be celebrating the killings of Muslims. So its not just the western world who does unlimited propaganda, they say if you lie 1000 times the people will accept it as the truth.

 

[maverick]

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sounds like he already capitulated , what a simp

 

[VCheng]

But the question was, what is the valid framing of American or Israeli demands?
Trump has just said that he wants to choose the next Iranian leadership

Trump's demands at this point are more hubris than substance, but that might be due to the military's assessments of whether they can deliver that strength by destroying Iran's offensive capabilities, quickly and without many casualties, while keeping the Strait open.

That is a tall order indeed, given the Iranian resolve and their drone and missile capabilties.

But, IF that does happen, then Trump might be in a position to dictate such demands and get them.

What I personally suspect will happen is the Venezuelan model, where the old setup survives in name but conforms in its policies.

 

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Callsign: White Tie (TACAMO) is airborne

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TACAMO (Take Charge And Move Out) is a United States military system of survivable communications links designed to be used in nuclear warfare to maintain communications between the decision-makers (the National Command Authority) and the triad of strategic nuclear weapon delivery systems. Its primary mission is serving as a signals relay, where it receives orders from a command plane such as Operation Looking Glass, and verifies and retransmits their Emergency Action Messages (EAMs) to US strategic forces.

Ya Allah reham,
Brother combined with the vapors expended in Tehran's air, what effect would something like this do ?
In case of conventional attack and in case of tactical nuke would it multiply the destruction effect and nuclear fall out ?

 

[clutch]

Israeli media reports that the UAE has struck water desalination plants in Iran

The United Arab Emirates struck Iran for the first time. This was confirmed to Ynet. The strike targeted an Iranian desalination facility, and Israeli assessments indicate the strike is currently only a signal to Iran, and if Iranian attacks escalate - then there is a real possibility the UAE will join the campaign, even if in a limited capacity.

First time: UAE strikes Iran

www.ynetnews.com

I believe Iran can also easily put boot on the ground in the UAE. It's an easy target for a land invasion. There are no local residents willing to fight.

 

[VCheng]

Then why are you wasting the bandwidth?
Throwing open ended statements here and there doesn't serve any purpose

The real waste of bandwidth here is to pontificate what the parties to the conflict should or should not do, as you and many others are doing.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

What each side would be willing to willing to negotiate on will depend on who, if anyone, is able to gain the upper hand to be able to negotiate from a position of strength. That is all war does - to give one's side a stronger position at the table.

Whether that strength is with Iran or USA remains to be seen, and hence too early to talk about what each side may or may not be willing to accept.

Again with the will, will... negotiate that negotiate this...
He bombed them twice cosplaying as deal maker. Only to get enough ammo in the region to scuttle them... both times with the aim to decapitate. Who talk with the one planning your death mid sentence?
Just keep the holier than thou out for a minute.

 

[RescueRanger]

Ya Allah reham,
Brother combined with the vapors expended in Tehran's air, what effect would something like this do ?
In case of conventional attack and in case of tactical nuke would it multiply the destruction effect and nuclear fall out ?

I dont think they have used a nuclear weapon but the strikes last night hit a lot of fuel depots the vapour from that is causing this - plus many of thr fires are still burning.

 

[VCheng]

In my opinion, bringing Israel and usa to the negotiating table means Iran has achieved something. Of course they need some guarantors who matters to be present on that negotiating table for outcomes and agreements to hold.

For both sides to come to the table is a win in a way. The makeup of who gets to sit at the table will depend on the outcome of the hostilties.

 

[r3alist]

Trump's demands at this point are more hubris than substance, but that might be due to the military's assessments of whether they can deliver that strength by destroying Iran's offensive capabilities, quickly and without many casualties, while keeping the Strait open.

That is a tall order indeed, given the Iranian resolve and their drone and missile capabilties.

But, IF that does happen, then Trump might be in a position to dictate such demands and get them.

What I personally suspect will happen is the Venezuelan model, where the old setup survives in name but conforms in its policies.

If they are hubris and lacking in substance then again, following all of this destruction, what exactly is the valid negotiation

It is not on nuclear enrichment, it is not on land or territory, is it not a war of choice?

Negotiations have parameters and purpose.

Your last response effectively says there is no purpose for this destruction across the region

Also you remember attacks happened during negotiations last time.

I don't see that anything you raise is rooted in the reality of what is unfolding