Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[fitpOsitive]

That's the mentality Iran and world is dealing with.

 

[Bratva]

I have to disagree.

Pakistan won't get involved and the 'defence pact' simply does not apply as KSA is an active participant by allowing use of its territory to attack Iran.

If KSA was totally neutral then we may have a discussion whether Pakistan may get involved in some way to assist Saudi.

I have been very careful with my words here to show respect that this is a Pakistani forum.

Respected Sir. When nation interets and economic lifeline is threatned. A nation do what it feels best for its interests, not what is moral or is righteous. Iran is doing whats its in interest too

 

[Dark Knight]

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That's the mentality Iran and world is dealing with.

As if they know how Allah (SWT) work's, your just doing the Devil's work, if only you knew Ladybug.

 

[hasssanali8998]

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looking at the footage iran has to double tap these strikes .


the rats always come out after strikes .

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

After all of this is over will Iran go for nukes and become a nuclear weapons state?

Depends on how all this ends. Can't really speculate on that without knowing what any potential peace agreements would look like...all we can say is that generally speaking, nuclear weapons have been proven to be the most consistent general purpose deterrent, but even then, look at NK. They're sanctioned to hell and back. Granted no one's trying to invade them, but they have a massive benefactor in China and Russia right next to them and no theological split/israel next to them that they're in conflict with. Russia could be another good example, currently embroiled in a slogfest in Ukraine, a country completely and utterly propped up by the West and NATO, despite having nuclear weapons, though they appear to be holding steady for now.

I dunno. It's a decision that the authorities that come out of it will have to weigh the risks/benefits of. IMO it's not a binary answer.

 

[UKBengali]

Respected Sir. When nation interets and economic lifeline is threatned. A nation do what it feels best for its interests, not what is moral or is righteous. Iran is doing whats its in interest too

Pakistan needs to look at this through a medium and long term perspective.

Reliance on the Gulf puppet regimes is actually making things worse for Pakistan and countries like Bangladesh as they are a "back stop" to poor economic governance.

Yes things will be worse in the short-term but Iranian destruction of GCC energy facilities and economy will actually make things better in long term for Muslim world in general.

KSA is actively helping Zio-US attack Iran through basing and over-fly rights and so Iran has every right to attack KSA.

 

[Forsvaret]

I and Pakistanis living in Pakistan doesnt care about what countries suffering. We should really put our interests and sufferings first you know.

That’s exactly the kind of mentality which led to US & Israel attacking Iran and then Iran’s subsequent all-out-response across the region. If more countries behaved recklessly like that (just following their own interests without regard of others) — what do you think is gonna happen in the end?

 

[ToqeLowkey]

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[Brutal.]

Once again, dont speak on Pakistan behalf. Pakistan will do what is in its interestes. Iran is hurting Pakistan interests by hurting GCC who is our economic lifeline. Stop looking through iranian lens for once and feel the pain of Pakistani right now what they facing and what they gonna face. This goes to all the Irani sympathizers in Thread who arent living in Pakistan and arent facing the reprecussions.We have a defence pact with Saudi. That'll be honored. Pakistan wont jump in If Iran wont touch Saudi Infra. As simple as that. No emotional rehtoric, No cheerleading. Simple, straight hard facts.

I dont think that the decision makers in our country can completely ignore the fact that there is significant public sentiment in favour of Iran and causing unrest within wont be very fruitful since there is a party waiting to capitalize on unrest in Pakistan.

 

[Bratva]

Pakistan needs to look at this through a medium and long term perspective.

Reliance on the Gulf puppet regimes is actually making things worse for Pakistan and countries like Bangladesh as they are a "back stop" to poor economic governance.

Yes things will be worse in the short-term but Iranian destruction of GCC energy facilities and economy will actually make things better in long term.

KSA is actively helping Zio-US attack Iran through basing and over-fly rights and so Iran has every right to attack KSA.

it is easy to strategize and spiel about whats best for long term without knowing thats not gonna happen. Lets be realistic shall we. Pakistan and Bengalis are suffering. They should priortize themselves.

If Iran is gonna do whats in its interests like attacking KSA. Pakistan will do whats in its best. You can debate endlessly or warn about consequences. Its not gonna change anything.

 

[Bratva]

That’s exactly the kind of mentality which led to US & Israel attacking Iran and the Iran’s all out response across the region. If more countries behaved recklessly like that (just following their own interests without regard of others) — what do you think is gonna happen in the end?

And Iran is attacking GCC infra because it is in its interest. Are you really gonna Lecture Pakistan about what to do because our economic redlines are about to be breached? World is going to crap and it is no time to take a stand for morality but what is in the interests of Pakistan. I hope you do visit Pakistan and then lecture us about this.

 

[Bratva]

I dont think that the decision makers in our country can completely ignore the fact that there is significant public sentiment in favour of Iran and causing unrest within wont be very fruitful since there is a party waiting to capitalize on unrest in Pakistan.

Those public sentiments going to wane next week or 2 when fuel commodities medicines and perishables become hard to get and those sympathizers in Pakistan would start starving. Pakistanis has not realised yet whats gonna hit them.

 

[hasssanali8998]

as a guy that loves kennedy

i loved the dinoma strike .
also btw dinoma is also called little india , due to the large indian community there

 

[UKBengali]

it is easy to strategize and spiel aboit whats best for long term without knowing thats not gonna happen. Lets be realistic shall we. Pakistan and Bengalis are suffering. They should priortize themselves.

If Iran is gonna do whats in its interests like attacking KSA. Pakistan will do whats in its best. You can debate endlessly or warn about consequences. Its not gonna change anything.

Last post on this - KSA is the one that is actively involved in allowing attacks on Iran.

1. It allows basing of tankers and fighter aircraft on its soil used to launch operations on Iran.

2. Zio-US uses its airspace as and when they please to attack Iran -> where is the protest from KSA about this if they cannot stop this?



KSA-Pakistan 'defence pact" simply does not come into this and we all know Pakistan is not going to attack Iran over this and will pay 'lip service" to Gulfies.

We need to be prepared for Iranian destruction of Gulfie energy facilities and economy if this war carries on for much longer.

 

[Forsvaret]

And Iran is attacking GCC infra because it is in its interest.

No. Iran is only attacking GCC because these states either host American bases or let US & Israeli warplanes use their airspace to target Iran.