Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Magi said:
The catamarans were sweet.
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I don't think they ever got radars, but if Iran considers the Navy something worth putting effort into in the future, they are the most promising platforms for our purposes.
 
For People who like to take these supposed watchdogs, their reports and assessments seriously and consider them unbiased and just 😆😆😆

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Iran is not a small and weak country. See this was your mistake to consider Iran as small and weak.
Iran has a large territory. Intelligent educated population and old civilization and culture. They make their own arms don't rely on foreign pressures. Sanctions taught Iran a lot. Necessary being the mother of invention.
Trump keeps reinforcing the failure and compounding the problems.
 
Persian Gulf said:
you are still peddling this nonsense?

here's your answer:

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Yes they have American presence on designated bases, and those are legitimate targets . But no Missiles were fired on Iran from their "International Airport" .
Same as Iran has Indian presence against Pakistan at Chah Bahar Port, and India is using Iranian Land against Pakistan.
Does that make Tehran Airport a legitimate target for Pakistan? I dont think so.
ChahBahar? Yes
 
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ShapurII said:
Dude, you were the person that said Qatar was Iran's bestest friend. I mean I don't want to dig old stuff, but you have had your fair share of wrong predictions.
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I wouldn’t say “bestest” friend. But we were allies at one point during the Saudi conflict and IRGC had a secret contract with Qatar or Saudi Arabia were to invade. They did just hand over 6B dollars to us. Ask yourself why Qatar hasn’t been attacked since March 19th. But sure maybe I overstated where I thought relations would develop to.

ShapurII said:
You were also strongly against Iran going nuclear. Kind of ironic, no?
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I was against going nuclear under the circumstance that it would somehow get us sanctions relief and lead to prosperity immediately.

But this war has changed everything. Khamenai and many officials assassinated, Iran now has probable cause and justification to go nuclear as a means of protection.

That being said, if we don’t, it’s not the end of the world either. I seem to think that IRGC and Iran’s elite never want to find them in this situation again and only a nuclear arsenal can change that.

ShapurII said:
Nevertheless, it isn't me that is negotiating with the Americans to hand over our HEU. In fact, my stance has always been against negotiation with the West before going nuclear. And it isn't a recent stance. I was against negotiations with the West long before the JCPOA and I was the strongest critic of the JCPOA here.

There is no scenario in game theory where a non-nuclear Iran can survive and prosper with all this animosity and threats surrounding us.

The only type of fair negotiation that Iran can ever have with the US is over the kilotons and megatons of our nuclear devices. Period.
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I was against no nukes, no negotiations, no war because as has been pointed out by you and others that leads to economic stress which leads to anger among the local population which leads to riots which leads to US/Mossad activating assets which leads to another attempt at colour revolution.

However now I think in the future the West knows that regime change isn’t possible from The air or by hoping somehow millions of people organize into some armed militia that can fight the Artesh and IRGC.

So my logic was either fight for peace (which I advocated in 2020 after Solemani assassination, in Syria for years, after our embassy was blown up, and in 2023) or just give the nuclear shit up and rebuild the country and see what happens in 20 years. What I couldn’t stand was this purgatory we have been in since JCPOA ended. It was stupid game theory that made zero sense.

Thankfully we are the conclusion stage and one way or another this multi decade drama will reach an end one way or another.
 
safriz said:
Yes they have American presence on designated bases, and those are legitimate targets . But no Missiles were fired on Iran from their "International Airport" .
Same has Iran has Indian presence against Pakistan at Chah Bahar Port, and India is using Iranian Land against Pakistan.
Does that make Tehran Airport a legitimate target for Pakistan? I dont think so.
ChahBahar? Yes
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Indians have no military presence in Iran, hence refuting your argument.
 
Immortals said:
I wouldn’t say “bestest” friend. But we were allies at one point during the Saudi conflict and IRGC had a secret contract with Qatar or Saudi Arabia were to invade. They did just hand over 6B dollars to us. Ask yourself why Qatar hasn’t been attacked since March 19th. But sure maybe I overstated where I thought relations would develop to.



I was against going nuclear under the circumstance that it would somehow get us sanctions relief and lead to prosperity immediately.

But this war has changed everything. Khamenai and many officials assassinated, Iran now has probable cause and justification to go nuclear as a means of protection.

That being said, if we don’t, it’s not the end of the world either. I seem to think that IRGC and Iran’s elite never want to find them in this situation again and only a nuclear arsenal can change that.



I was against no nukes, no negotiations, no war because as has been pointed out by you and others that leads to economic stress which leads to anger among the local population which leads to riots which leads to US/Mossad activating assets which leads to another attempt at colour revolution.

However now I think in the future the West knows that regime change isn’t possible from The air or by hoping somehow millions of people organize into some armed militia that can fight the Artesh and IRGC.

So my logic was either fight for peace (which I advocated in 2020 after Solemani assassination, in Syria for years, after our embassy was blown up, and in 2023) or just give the nuclear shit up and rebuild the country and see what happens in 20 years. What I couldn’t stand was this purgatory we have been in since JCPOA ended. It was stupid game theory that made zero sense.

Thankfully we are the conclusion stage and one way or another this multi decade drama will reach an end one way or another.
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The silvering lining in all of this is that now all of us have reached the conclusion that we need to resist until the end and go nuclear the first chance we get. Iranians were very divided on this 10 years ago.
 
clutch said:
There were IDF terror tunnels underneath the airport.
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Safriz is either extremely anti-Iran or he's trolling.
A civilian airport still has jet fuel depots at the minimum. There are many ways that a civilian airport can be used for military purposes and I'm sure he knows that.
 
must listen urdu , MBS beg Imran Khan to attack Iran.
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