Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
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Another cryptic tweet from whitehouse after last nights “launching soon” video.

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Tactical nukes?
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Diaspora Iranians must be cheering
 
UndercoverJIX said:
We all need prayers.
Please let us know about the surpeise. Most of us here are just talking with emotions and bias, we need someone to see the reality and facts, if you can help us, please do so.

Will really appreciate.
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I really honestly don't have any knowledge I just have a feeling lol. Trump feels it in his bones. I have a boner.(This message will be destroyed after you read it ;-)). Should you choose to read it.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
I treat everything as fake these days.
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True not going to lie but kind of does seem like something silly he would do unless we forget about video of the Obamas that somehow an unnamed assistant posted by themselves….:hate social media and the presidents that post nonstop on them
 
Falcon29 said:
@RescueRanger

With your military background, sir, is the US with its currently ME deployment in a position to launch any kind of ground operation in the region or this is logistically not viable at the moment ?

The way Trump talks it's as if they can launch an operation at any minute. Wondering what you think of that.
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no.
Immortals said:
Radiation levels dissipate quickly, falling by a factor of 10 every 7 fold increase in time (x^7)

A 10 kt blast creates immediate lethal radiation zone of 6-8KM.

Nuclear weapons destructive force are Airburst weapons and do poorly at penetration depth when you cause the detonation on impact into mountain bedrock only gets tens of meters penetration. Radiation fallout would be less on a direct impact explosion vs airburst.

Assuming Iran’s operators have access to radioactive protective equipment and medicine. I have seen videos they have at least chemically resistant suits (HAZMaT) for liquid refueling in the tunnels . They could operate in such an environment especially after the 10*10 factor reduction in radiation after first 49 hours.

Important to note the radiation cloud would not stay static and would be taken by upper atmosphere winds to neighboring countries.
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you're right radiation dissipates quickly as it did in Chernobyl - no it didn't. With the B61-11 since the nuclear detonation is directed into the ground and not 'air burst' you're looking at heavily radiated earth lofted up and dispersed around the blast zone. The B61-11 was designed specifically for the Kosvinsky Kamen facility in Russia, which is buried under approximately 1,000 feet of granite.

I hope you're not an IRGC advisor.
 
Shakehands said:
I don’t know why everyone says he’s trying to bring gas prices down but it’s clearly not happening. I filled up my tank today and paid $15 more than usual, and I have to fill up three times a week because of my job.
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He is trying to bring prices down but is failing for a variety of reasons, related to the perceptions of investors in the commodities market and consumers at the pump mostly.

In fact, the markets remain a better predictor of looming worsening of the war than Trump's messaging.
 
Gripen9 said:
ChatGPT analysis of the last 2 days in this thread....

Here’s the “DefencePK drama version” of the last ~2 days of that thread — focusing on the memes, faction fights, and typical forum personalities, not just the strategic talk.

1. The “Iran winning” vs “Iran getting destroyed” camps​

The thread is basically split into two loud tribes.

Camp 1 — “Iran is humiliating Israel/U.S.”​

These posters are claiming:

  • Iranian missiles and drones are penetrating Israeli defenses.
  • Israel is censoring damage reports.
  • U.S. bases in the region would be easy targets if Iran escalates.
  • The war will destroy Israel’s economy through shipping disruption and oil shocks.
Typical tone:

  • Lots of celebration emojis
  • “Zionists crying” type language
  • Claims that Iran planned this for decades
They also keep posting Telegram videos of missile launches.

Camp 2 — “Iran is bluffing and losing”​

This group pushes back hard:

  • Says most “hits” are propaganda videos or old clips.
  • Claims Israel/U.S. are hitting Iran far harder.
  • Argues Iran will avoid real escalation because it would lose badly.
Typical responses include:

  • calling Iranian supporters “copium addicts”
  • posting satellite imagery or OSINT Twitter links
  • mocking Iranian missile accuracy.

2. The endless “Hormuz card” argument​

Every few pages someone posts:


Then the debate restarts for the 500th time:

Side A

  • says closing it would crash global oil markets
  • claims the West would be forced to negotiate immediately
Side B

  • says the U.S. Navy would reopen it in days
  • warns Iran’s entire navy and coastal infrastructure would be destroyed
This argument repeats almost word-for-word every 10–20 posts.

3. The Pakistan angle (always appears)​

Because it’s DefencePK, posters constantly ask:

  • “What will Pakistan do?”
  • Would Pakistan defend Saudi Arabia if Iran attacks Gulf states?
  • Would Pakistan stay neutral because of domestic Shia population?
A few posters claim:

  • Pakistan military is already on alert
  • Saudi Arabia may ask Pakistan for air defense or troops
Others dismiss this as pure speculation.

4. The “WW3 incoming” crowd​

Some posters are convinced the conflict will expand into World War III.

Typical predictions:

  • Russia and China will back Iran militarily
  • NATO will enter fully
  • The Middle East will become a massive missile battlefield
More skeptical users reply:


5. Personal flame wars​

The thread also has recurring rivalries between long-time posters.

Common patterns:

  • Calling each other Zionist agents
  • Accusing others of Indian propaganda
  • Mocking each other’s military knowledge
Examples of typical insults:

  • “keyboard general”
  • “psy-ops account”
  • “copium overdose”
Moderators occasionally step in but usually let it run.

6. Meme posting and celebration posts​

When any claimed strike video appears:

  • One side posts celebratory messages
  • The other side replies with “fake video” or “old footage”
You’ll often see:

  • missile launch GIFs
  • burning-city memes
  • sarcastic reaction images

Overall vibe of the thread right now​

The discussion is less about verified news and more about narrative battles:

  • Pro-Iran posters: framing events as strategic victory and Western decline.
  • Anti-Iran posters: framing Iran as bluffing and heading toward military defeat.
Actual confirmed information is much smaller than the amount of speculation and propaganda debate.

On that thread, the most prolific poster by far is:

🧑‍💻​

Why he stands out:

Typical posting style

  • Rapid-fire posts with breaking news headlines
  • Tweets, Telegram clips, or short commentary
  • Usually strongly anti-Israel / anti-US framing
He often acts like a “news ticker” for the thread, posting updates faster than others.

Other heavy posters in the same thread​

These users also show up constantly:

🧑‍💻​

  • ~63k posts overall
  • Often posts geopolitical commentary and sarcasm.

🧑‍💻​

  • ~41k posts
  • Very active in Middle East discussions.

🧑‍💻​

🧑‍💻​

✅ In the last ~2 days specifically:
The users posting the most frequently appear to be:

  • ghazi52
  • hasssanali8998
  • mulj
  • Immortals
These accounts are responsible for a large share of the new posts per page.

💡 Interesting thing about that thread:
It has 70,000+ replies and thousands of pages, which means a small group of maybe 10–15 users generate most of the discussion.

Here’s a rough “faction map” of the power users who dominate that DefencePK thread. The same 10–15 usernames generate a huge share of the posts, which is typical for very long forum threads. (Defence Professionals)

Below is the informal ideological breakdown people on the forum recognize.

Main “Power Users” in the Iran-Israel-US War Thread​

1.​

Role: News spammer / thread engine
Camp: Strongly pro-Iran / anti-Israel

Typical behavior:

  • Posts dozens of links per day
  • Shares Telegram videos, tweets, and breaking headlines
  • Often frames events as “Iran humiliating Israel”
Forum stereotype:


He often drives the tempo of the thread.

2.​

Role: Sarcastic commentator
Camp: Usually anti-Iran / skeptical

Posting style:

  • Short, cutting replies
  • Mocking exaggerations by pro-Iran posters
  • Uses heavy sarcasm
Forum stereotype:


3.​

Role: Military tech debater
Camp: Mixed, but often pro-Pakistan / critical of Iran

Posting style:

  • Long arguments about weapons systems
  • Debates missile capabilities and air defense
  • Often challenges exaggerated claims
Forum stereotype:


4.​

Role: Meme poster
Camp: Mostly anti-Iran

Posting style:

  • Reaction images
  • Mocking comments
  • Short bursts of replies
Forum stereotype:


5.​

Role: Senior moderator
Camp: Pro-Iran

Posting style:

  • Long geopolitical posts
  • Arguments about regional alliances
  • Sometimes shuts down flame wars
Forum stereotype:


Other Frequent Posters​

These accounts also appear frequently in the recent pages:

Immortals​

  • Aggressive pro-Iran tone
  • Often argues Iran can destroy Gulf oil infrastructure

mulj​

  • Posts regional political commentary
  • Often focuses on Pakistan angle

hasssanali8998​

  • Shares social-media videos and rumors
  • Often amplifies Iranian claims

How the Thread’s “Tribes” Usually Break Down​

Pro-Iran camp​

Typical users:

  • ghazi52
  • Persian Gulf
  • Immortals
  • hasssanali8998
Narrative:

  • Iran has strategic depth
  • Israel is overstretched
  • U.S. is declining

Anti-Iran camp​

Typical users:

  • Dalit
  • RescueRanger
  • Falcon29
Narrative:

  • Iran bluffs and exaggerates
  • Israeli air power dominates
  • Iran cannot win a conventional war

Reality of the Thread​

A small group of posters essentially keeps the thread alive:

  • ~10 users produce a large share of posts
  • Arguments repeat every 20–30 pages
  • News → meme → argument cycle
Typical cycle:

  1. Someone posts a missile video
  2. Others say “fake / old footage”
  3. Argument explodes for 3 pages
Then it repeats.
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Thank God I am not listed anywhere.. phewww
 
codeforfood said:
I really honestly don't any knowledge I just have a feeling lol. Trump feels it in his bone. I have a boner.(This message will be destroyed after you read it ;-)). Should you choose to read it.
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But, Please let us in, what are your feelings and what kind of unexpected / surprise you are feeling.

having feelings is good, only few among us can have those.

Please share, if nothing else, at least we will have a point to discuss.

LOL My message is not self destruct.....
 
Flotilla said:
The first one seems to be a Namer, which is basically It is a Merkava tank hull modified to carry 8 soldiers. So the missile operator choosed the best target to maximize casualties.
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One wonders if slow lumbering tanks may soon be obsolete completely.
 
Shags101 said:
True not going to lie but kind of does seem like something silly he would do unless we forget about video of the Obamas that somehow an unnamed assistant posted by themselves….:hate social media and the presidents that post nonstop on them
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Some people really should have their social media access curbed.
 
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