US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

Entirely understandable.

Much of modern discourse has turned into an endless war of opposing narratives created for particular purposes rather than any bases in facts or results, unfortunately.

Neither Iran nor USA has won anything - as of yet.
You won't be lost in narratives if you develop the capacity to detach yourself and look at the whole gambit from a neutral venue....
 
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31st MEU conducting amphibious assault training at Diego Garcia
 
Battlestar Galactica? Well to be fair, the Galactica did reach Earth 150,000 years ago and was never attacked by the cylons again.

lol - yes. My reference was more than the USA is doing Vietnam .. again.


( we are running out of time after 150,000 years, mind you .. ).

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Well, let us wait and see, then. The latest figures for the US economy are not that bad yet.



I would let Asia worry about Asia's problems. After all, USA is not the world's sole superpower anymore, as many here believe, so it is not responsible for anyone else but itself.

A week ago, I told @RescueRanger that, based on data from East Asia, the problems would start there and then spread, much like a contagion.

[Note: In my assessment, China is the best-positioned actor in the region. As they've shifted their energy needs to other alternatives, they have been the least impacted by the Strait's closure.]

But overall, I do not feel like this administration will put this conflict to rest until Iran capitulates, that, too, with Israeli consent. It's unfeasible; it will leave Israel to fight it out.
 
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The power has shifted for all time. The USA will not be looked at or trusted the same way for a generation.

Cope and wishcasting. This has been the most dominant air/naval campaign in modern history. US relations with Gulf countries are only growing stronger after this war.
 
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Trump admin to unveil a $1.5T defense budget for 2027
 
This is not about deals or MAGA, this is about price, and how bad it can be, but more importantly, how you can fix it

It really didn't matter if Asia reached a deal with Iran, the ships are still not moving, and we have already done a very big damage in the last 33 days. Even if stuff ends tomorrow, you are looking at around half a year to go back to normal.

It all started here


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Hormuz sees about 130-140 tanker movements a day, we got 7 yesterday, usually it's either 0 or 1, and no more than 10 on a good day (I think there is a day that 13 went through, anyway) so let's say on average, we have 10 pass thru a day, which is very generous, we would had 330 ships sail thru the last month, which usually seen 4000+, which mean 93% of the shipping is currently suspended, unless they had pipeline directly from the Middle East, deal or no deal, nothing had moved. And the ship doesn't teleport from Hormuz straight to Japan, South Korea, or the Philippines........So you get the drift

If you are an American, you may ask, "What does that have to do with us? We produce more than we use, and we don't generally depend on oil in the Middle East." Well, oil prices are global. which means when Asia, which is the industrial heart of the world, is not getting enough oil, they will buy OVER the market price from somewhere else, which means even if you are not related to Hormuz and its spoil of war, you would still get a price hike because say if you are Texas Oil Exec, would you sell 30% more over the market price to Japan or South Korea or at price to local? And that also means whatever you are getting from China, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and Taiwan, which is basically everything in your home, you now get them more expensive. Either that or the entire supply line is just gone.

Which means at the end of the day, you are looking at 6 months + when the oil price is going to go up and up, and that's if the issue is resolved in Hormuz. And there is no guarantee that, if the escalation keeps going, and either Trump or Iran or both don't back down, the only way we can physically stop it is literally either force a regime change in Iran, or the US has to occupy part or all of the Iranian coast. Because if Iran keeps on closing the Strait even after the US says they have had enough and is going home, that's what will happen.

At the rate we are going, if the conflict ends now, you're looking at a minimum of one year before normalization returns to what it was before this conflict. With shocks still within the system.

The main question will be what next? As the supply chains have been exposed, it's showing that just-in-time inventory isn't sustainable. I do feel the small- to mid-size firms will not have the liquidity to build up their raw material base to weather another conflict, as this one is burning through their reserves at a high price point.

East Asian SME liquidity was already tightening before the conflict due to higher borrowing costs, lower cash flow, and dependence on short-term financing; this was already causing a shrinking financial cushion in East Asian markets. I want to mention that this was while they were still recovering from the COVID impact & navigating the impact of Trump's tariffs and supply chain shifts.

At what point does the ADB step in?
 
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Battlestar Galactica? Well to be fair, the Galactica did reach Earth 150,000 years ago and was never attacked by the cylons again.

That's the news series, not a patch on the old original. How dare you.
 
B-52s now flying into Iranian airspace....

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An official tells ABC News the U.S. dropped 2,000-pound bunker busting bombs on an Iranian ammo site.
 
But overall, I do not feel like this administration will put this conflict to rest until Iran capitulates, that, too, with Israeli consent. It's unfeasible; it will leave Israel to fight it out.

That is what I am afraid of, since geopolitically terms like capitulation and unfeasible demands mean that neither side will concede anything to the other, making it a fight to the finish, whatever it might look like for the region.

We will have to wait and see, as is often said.
 
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The US struck the IRGC naval base on Qeshm Island last night.

Commercial vessels have since taken the untolled route today.
 
Cope and wishcasting. This has been the most dominant air/naval campaign in modern history. US relations with Gulf countries are only growing stronger after this war.



Also, for a country with an obliterated navy, Iran does a pretty good job of keeping your US Navy 1000km offshore. How many Kc-135 have you lost and other aircraft to a country with no airforce? This US campaign will go down in history as total incompetence. This is your Suez Canal moment.
 

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