Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kharral]

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How would Pakistan know this? Zionist propaganda are all over the place.

You’d be surprised.

Pakistan’s assessment of Iraq’s capabilities before the first gulf war were spot on & a major surprise for CIA & other nato countries intelligence services.

Subsequently a campaign of undermining ISI & MI was carried out by the above mentioned services.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Althought he is emotional impatient kid but he is not wrong here. Iran has not many option left in sleeves. The daily dose of 10-12 missile towards israil is not bad enough for israil to not carry out complete destruction strikes of iranian civili and energy infrastructure. By the time iran retaliate in same manner there will be of no use, they will be bombed back to few decades.

US withdrawal must happen first and nukes must be developed, only way to do that is for the energy fields to be destroyed. There will be massive damage but that is khamenei's fault and will be his legacy.
PGCC will be reorganized under a new security understanding and reconstruction can be funded by loans paid back via the toll and future energy exports. Pegging hormuz toll to the rial will also increase its value. The oil itself can be paid in RMB.

 

[Blain2]

He will lose the elections if the war continues.

IF there are elections in the US...all such things are possible.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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I don't think so. That is not how wars are fought. Flawed logic by this X post.

 

[ShapurII]

If Iran cannot reciprocate today's attack on our petrochemical industry by Israel by the end of today, things will start to look very bad for Iran.

 

[SABRE]

When it concerns Israel, I agree with you 100%, but things start to get tricky when Saudi Arabia gets involved. It's sort of like a love triangle.

Also, Pakistan wants to, and has to, maintain good relations with the US and I don't blame you for that. It's only reasonable and fair to pursue your interests.

More than KSA, it's Iran's own policies that make things tricky. I am quite sure Iran would have similar opinions about Pakistan's policies, and they might actually be true as well. But for Pakistan, Iran's tilt towards India has been problematic since the fall of the Shah, and the anti-Pakistan militants and RAW agents often operating from Iranian soil haven't helped the matter either. Despite this, Pakistan is quite possibly the only country in the immediate neighborhood holding relatively favorable views for Iran, regardless of regime type and its policies.

If KSA ever influenced Pakistan's Iran policy, then quite possibly you would have had a hostile Pakistan to your East, and it would be acting either passively or worse, antagonistically, during the current conflict, much like the Gulf states. What you instead have is Pakistan's balancing act beyond its best. We have never seen such diplomatic maneuvering in our history, not even for Pakistan's own sake, just to end the conflict that we are not directly part of.

Do you think KSA doesn't want us to drop bombs on Iran while it targets its oil fields? They would love for us to do that. Yet, Islamabad and Rawalpindi stay awake late in the night discussing peace plans with both Washington and Tehran. Iran should learn to discern between friends and exploiters.

Edit: Long before KSA, Iran was Pakistan's strategic ally.

 

[Immortals]

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@Persian Gulf

@ShapurII

 

[Garcia Sea]

Unfortunately, Iran's reputation among cn citizens is not very good.
This is due to distrust and negative feelings stemming from the long history of Iran's foolish actions, such as dreaming of a pro-US stance only to be betrayed by the US.
The decisive blow was Iran's foolish signing of the JCPOA and its inaction after Trump abrogated it.
Compared to North Korea, there is a harsh view that Iran is reaping what it sowed for its own folly in selling out its sovereignty, and few praise its efforts.

 

[Hayabusa]

I don't think so. That is not how wars are fought. Flawed logic by this X post.

This X poster is quite an avid supported of Iran though.

I don't think poster is wrong in saying that. Iran has not been going aggressive on Israel's assets based on OSINT. Just hope that I am proven wrong and Iran goes all out on energy facilities after this incident.

 

[MH.Yang]

Yes, I was referring to a much more recent cooperation though.

China has reportedly sold Saudi Arabia DF-13 and DF-21 missiles. China has also been helping Saudi Arabia create underground missile bases.

Yes. At the request of Saudi Arabia, China replaced 35 DF-3A missiles with 35 DF-21s at a price of 60 billion US dollars. This gives Saudi Arabia the power to attack Israel and Türkiye.

Iran is only 1300 kilometers away from Saudi Arabia. It is obvious that Saudi Arabia's target for spending $60 billion to upgrade the range of its ICBM is not Iran.

Well, another reason is that Saudi Arabia's $60 billion offer was indeed too tempting. And at that time, relations between Turkey and China.

 

[Ali_Baba]

If Iran cannot reciprocate today's attack on our petrochemical industry by Israel by the end of today, things will start to look very bad for Iran.

Why? That logic makes no sense to me. This is a war, not a theatrical exhibition either.

This is not a badminton match where you have to keep matching otherwise you are out of the game.

Iran, should respond when it is ready to do so, and when it can incur a real cost on the enemy....

 

[Immortals]

If Iran cannot reciprocate today's attack on our petrochemical industry by Israel by the end of today, things will start to look very bad for Iran.

Hitting Israel’s petrochemical does very little strategically. They won’t be deterred. But I’m sure Iran will try. Iran hit Haifa badly in 12 war and has some smaller success hits during this war. Neither did much to stop Israeli aggression.

The wild card here is the last major oil player — Saudi Arabia that is still pumping an estimated 7MBPD and exporting 5MBPD thru the Red Sea. Halting that production will truly create a far greater energy crisis that will lead to the end of the war.

Tit for Tat with Israel won’t go anywhere. they won’t stop.

 

[Forsvaret]

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Iran once again rejects Pakistan’s proposal for a temporary ceasefire, demands permanent end to war instead:

Source: MSN
@Bratva @Watandar @That_Guy @M. Sarmad @Bilal @Persian Gulf

 

[newb3e]

I don't think so. That is not how wars are fought. Flawed logic by this X post.

used to follow him he lost it for him every bomb drop was a tactical nuke he had weird theories!

 

[Kharral]

And these “spies” walk around deep inside missile cities counting missiles and drones?

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There is absolutely no need to do that & you know it.

Intelligence & intelligence assessments are two different things.

You do realise Pakistan has a strategic relationship with China & a very good relationship with North Korea too. Also there may not be cooperation at tactical & even operational levels between Pakistan & Iran but you can rest assured there is wink wink at the Strategic level from both sides.