Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

The future is belongs to advanced technological systems.

I think the future will belong to the nation(s) that can adapt to realities
And pivot quickly. Which is a mixture of both high end systems for HVTs and low cost systems to degrade the opponent and raise costs. We see it playing out in Ukraine as Ukrainian engineers rapidly prototype and deploy.

Also the rise of superintelligence AI in next 5-10 years will increase parity of nations as AI war planners will constantly help engineers build counter inventions to stymie their opponent.

So in short, the country at most risk is America due to its bloated debt and democratization of AI allowing other countries to catch up. Plus cheap weapon systems that can counter system 10-100x more expensive

 

[Zoyou]

 

[Kharral]

The people of Pakistan, both Sunni and Shiite, are widely pro-Iran in this war and I don't doubt their sincerity in this. I don't think the same is true about the Pakistani system though. The situation is very complicated.

At the Strategic level, Pakistan’s system has always been pro Iran & it will remain so.

 

[Musings]

Name should not be a concern of anybody.until forum rules are not violated.

It is when its offensive. Multi ID

 

[ShapurII]

In 2016, Saudi Arabia and the Houthis reached a ceasefire agreement, which was torn apart in December 2018. The transaction of WL-2 production line occurred in 2017.

China has always been committed to reconciliation between Iran and the Arab world, and its position of hoping for unity among Islamic countries in China is well-known. Under the mediation of China, Iran and Saudi Arabia will resume diplomatic relations in 2023. China has not unilaterally supported Iran, which is a fact, but China has also not unilaterally supported Saudi Arabia. China's position has always been to demand that the two countries resume diplomacy and reunite.

There is no official news that Iran has purchased J-10C from China. The only news is that the Chinese government stated on March 2, 2026 that Iran has not requested to purchase CM-302 from China. However, there has been no official news about the J-10C, no evidence to prove that Iran has made a purchase request, no evidence to prove that China has refused the request, and it is even possible that Iran has secretly purchased it. Do you know how long Pakistani pilots secretly trained in China before revealing that they purchased J-10C?

China has helped Saudi Arabia establish a missile force to counter Iran. That sounds like unilateral support to me.

By the way, thanks for your mediation between Saudi Arabia and Iran. It worked wonders for us! As you can see, Saudi Arabia is not the main financer of this war now! Thank you for that again.

So, it's an issue of dishonesty, it seems. I never said Iran had purchased J-10C's. You said China offered Iran to buy J-10s. I told you that you offered us J-10As and we refused it because of obvious reasons like the engine and the outdated pulse-doppler radar. We then asked you to sell us J-10Cs and you refused. Now let's see what sort of mental gymnastic you will come up with next time.

 

[SABRE]

War won’t stop till oil is at $150

Iran promised $200

 

[wangdefa]

What’s the Chinese government and publics view on Irans retaliation against Arab countries hosting US bases? What’s your personal view?

If you ask the Chinese people how they view this war, it is now the internet age, and you can see it in the comments on the platform account of the Iranian Embassy in China (Weibo, Douyin), and you will get the answer. Or you can also get the answer from the platform account of the Israeli Embassy in China.
An Iranian who has lived in China for a long time streams on the Bilibili platform, and his channel is also very interesting.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Pakistan should distance itself from any deal, because the US/Israel will break and violate it at some point and Pakistan will be involved in this mess and seen as a traitor and be powerless about it

Unless this is a treaty recognized by the UN with solid guarantees, Pakistan should not be involved into this mess

With all due respect, No, brother.

if the Iranians have asked us to stand with them diplomatically, we should like we have.

Iran is our neighbour, and we should continue to aid them diplomatically, and to the best of our ability against the US/Israel.

I don't believe neither the GCC nor Iran with a combined population of 152 million people want to completely destroy each each, just so the only victor left after this conflict is Israel. Nobody wants that.

 

[ShapurII]

At the Strategic level, Pakistan’s system has always been pro Iran & it will remain so.

When it concerns Israel, I agree with you 100%, but things start to get tricky when Saudi Arabia gets involved. It's sort of like a love triangle.

Also, Pakistan wants to, and has to, maintain good relations with the US and I don't blame you for that. It's only reasonable and fair to pursue your interests.

 

[Gripen9]

 

[ShapurII]

Iran promised $200

Give it 4-6 more weeks, after both Iran and GCC energy infrastructure have been destroyed.

 

[MH.Yang]

Please! Either you are misinformed or you are being dishonest. You have been active here for a long time. There were like several threads on this issue on PDF alone. How could you miss them? I'm sure you were active in many of those threads too.

Here's the first link that Google gave me:

Iran Eyes China’s “Rafale Killer” J-10C as Israel Calls on Beijing to Restrain Tehran - Defence Security Asia

Israel urges China to rein in Iran’s plan to buy J-10C ‘Rafale Killer’ jets as tensions soar over Tehran’s airpower ambitions.

defencesecurityasia.com

Yes, it was in early 90s. I have never denied the amicable relations of China and Iran in 90s and early 2000s. The issues started in late 2000s.


Yes, when Saudi Arabia had severed her ties with Iran and was actively fighting Houthis of Yemen, blaming it on Iran. Also, openly threatening Iran with use of force by people like Bin Salman and their Minister of Foreign Affairs.


Good lecture. Now please lecture Persian Gulf Arabs on that too. They are the ones that constantly ask the US for "cutting the head of the snake" and are in a hidden relationship with Israel.


That wasn't the point and you know it too.

As for the relationship between China and Israel.

On February 22, 2024, Ma Xinmin, Director General of the International Law and Treaty Department of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, made it clear at the United Nations General Assembly that in a war against aggression, anti aggression armed forces have the right to attack any target of the aggressor, including civilian facilities. This is an act that complies with international law and does not constitute a terrorist attack. Do you understand what this means for Israel and Palestine?

And on July 23, 2024, 14 Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas and Fatah, signed the Beijing Declaration in Beijing, reaching a consensus to resist Israel's aggression.

China has done so much, yet you still imply that the relationship between Israel and China is good?

 

[ShapurII]

As for the relationship between China and Israel.

On February 22, 2024, Ma Xinmin, Director General of the International Law and Treaty Department of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, made it clear at the United Nations General Assembly that in a war against aggression, anti aggression armed forces have the right to attack any target of the aggressor, including civilian facilities. This is an act that complies with international law and does not constitute a terrorist attack. Do you understand what this means for Israel and Palestine?

And on July 23, 2024, 14 Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas and Fatah, signed the Beijing Declaration in Beijing, reaching a consensus to resist Israel's aggression.

China has done so much, yet you still imply that the relationship between Israel and China is good?

When did I imply that? I don't remember having said that at all. You probably misunderstood me. Your relations are not bad, but not good either.

 

[SolarWarden]

Time to hit Dimona, why are you waiting..

Because Israel would retaliate by hitting Iran's nuclear plant? Or retaliate with nukes depending how Demona "reacts" (get it? Oh nvm) which Israel has hinted in the past.

 

[Cicero]