Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[MH.Yang]

Please! Either you are misinformed or you are being dishonest. You have been active here for a long time. There were like several threads on this issue on PDF alone. How could you miss them? I'm sure you were active in many of those threads too.

Here's the first link that Google gave me:

Iran Eyes China’s “Rafale Killer” J-10C as Israel Calls on Beijing to Restrain Tehran - Defence Security Asia

Israel urges China to rein in Iran’s plan to buy J-10C ‘Rafale Killer’ jets as tensions soar over Tehran’s airpower ambitions.

defencesecurityasia.com

Yes, it was in early 90s. I have never denied the amicable relations of China and Iran in 90s and early 2000s. The issues started in late 2000s.


Yes, when Saudi Arabia had severed her ties with Iran and was actively fighting Houthis of Yemen, blaming it on Iran. Also, openly threatening Iran with use of force by people like Bin Salman and their Minister of Foreign Affairs.


Good lecture. Now please lecture Persian Gulf Arabs on that too. They are the ones that constantly ask the US for "cutting the head of the snake" and are in a hidden relationship with Israel.


That wasn't the point and you know it too.

As for the relationship between China and Israel.

On February 22, 2024, Ma Xinmin, Director General of the International Law and Treaty Department of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, made it clear at the United Nations General Assembly that in a war against aggression, anti aggression armed forces have the right to attack any target of the aggressor, including civilian facilities. This is an act that complies with international law and does not constitute a terrorist attack. Do you understand what this means for Israel and Palestine?

And on July 23, 2024, 14 Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas and Fatah, signed the Beijing Declaration in Beijing, reaching a consensus to resist Israel's aggression.

China has done so much, yet you still imply that the relationship between Israel and China is good?

 

[ShapurII]

As for the relationship between China and Israel.

On February 22, 2024, Ma Xinmin, Director General of the International Law and Treaty Department of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, made it clear at the United Nations General Assembly that in a war against aggression, anti aggression armed forces have the right to attack any target of the aggressor, including civilian facilities. This is an act that complies with international law and does not constitute a terrorist attack. Do you understand what this means for Israel and Palestine?

And on July 23, 2024, 14 Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas and Fatah, signed the Beijing Declaration in Beijing, reaching a consensus to resist Israel's aggression.

China has done so much, yet you still imply that the relationship between Israel and China is good?

When did I imply that? I don't remember having said that at all. You probably misunderstood me. Your relations are not bad, but not good either.

 

[SolarWarden]

Time to hit Dimona, why are you waiting..

Because Israel would retaliate by hitting Iran's nuclear plant? Or retaliate with nukes depending how Demona "reacts" (get it? Oh nvm) which Israel has hinted in the past.

 

[Cicero]

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[hasssanali8998]

Give it 4-6 more weeks, after both Iran and GCC energy infrastructure has been destroyed.

god i love when millions of people starve to death and die of thirst because of a single guy and his ego

 

[ShapurII]

god i love when millions of people starve to death and die of thirst because of a single guy and his ego

It's not just one guy though. It's a whole international cult that enables him.

 

[hasn2009]

For people who are expecting jolani to fight Israel

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[kobra]

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Althought he is emotional impatient kid but he is not wrong here. Iran has not many option left in sleeves. The daily dose of 10-12 missile towards israil is not bad enough for israil to not carry out complete destruction strikes of iranian civili and energy infrastructure. By the time iran retaliate in same manner there will be of no use, they will be bombed back to few decades.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Trump on Iran: "They've made a proposal, and it's a significant proposal... it's not good enough, but it's a very significant step."

 

[MH.Yang]

China has helped Saudi Arabia establish a missile force to counter Iran. That sounds like unilateral support to me.

By the way, thanks for your mediation between Saudi Arabia and Iran. It worked wonders for us! As you can see, Saudi Arabia is not the main financer of this war now! Thank you for that again.

So, it's an issue of dishonesty, it seems. I never said Iran had purchased J-10C's. You said China offered Iran to buy J-10s. I told you that you offered us J-10As and we refused it because of obvious reasons like the engine and the outdated pulse-doppler radar. We then asked you to sell us J-10Cs and you refused. Now let's see what sort of mental gymnastic you will come up with next time.

Do you really know the inside story of Saudi Arabia's purchase of ICBM from China?

In 1987, China's economy was on the brink of collapse, with only 2.9 billion US dollars left in foreign exchange. At this time, Saudi Arabia proposed to purchase 35 DF-3 missiles for $3.5 billion. China agreed to sell ICBM only when it was at a dead end.

In 1987, we were a group of beggars on the verge of starvation. You cannot blame a beggar for selling the stick in his hand to survive.

 

[MH.Yang]

What’s the Chinese government and publics view on Irans retaliation against Arab countries hosting US bases? What’s your personal view?

This establishes a legal basis for our future attacks on US bases in other countries.

 

[ShapurII]

Do you really know the inside story of Saudi Arabia's purchase of ICBM from China? In 1987, China's economy was on the brink of collapse, with only 2.9 billion US dollars left in foreign exchange. At this time, Saudi Arabia proposed to purchase 35 DF-3 missiles for $3.5 billion. China agreed to sell ICBM only when it was at a dead end.

Yes, I was referring to a much more recent cooperation though.

China has reportedly sold Saudi Arabia DF-13 and DF-21 missiles. China has also been helping Saudi Arabia create underground missile bases.

 

[Blain2]

I'm curious. Does IRGC have any plans for ground invasion of Bahrain and Kuwait in case things got worse ? and how will the IRGC transport troops hmmm

There is no "ground invasion" of Bahrain. It sits across the Persian Gulf and Iran has no navy/expeditionary capability. Iran's best bet would be to harass and damage US forces if they were to take over Kharg island. Otherwise, how would Iran keep its forces supplied if they occupied Kuwait?

Don't think its their strategy either.

 

[Immortals]

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[sharreman10]

He does not have the feeling of win, a capitulation, surrender, no photo ops... the last optics of destroyed air assets and failed attempt of securing UF6 is going to piss him off even more, if ceasefire happened, it will be considered a defeat and he will lose the elections.

He will lose the elections if the war continues.