Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Lol! Iran never had an air force to begin with, so what did the US grounded? In fact the only thing Trump constantly babbled about was how US destroyed Iran's missile and drone capacity only to find out that the Iranian strikes have significantly increased.
dr.coomer
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Look buddy, hate to break it to you nukes from Pakistan won't help with anything, their Air force is terrible (I know from working with them in the industry). If they were smart they would've given all those bases to PAF instead of outsourcing their defense to US and other countries. Instead they wasted billions of dollars on projects that have no practical value (the line, indoor ski resort, etc.). Not to mention the investments they've done in India. At some point they need to take responsibility for their actions and you need to stop making excuses for them
delta2
Registered Member
A nuke is a nuke. A few modern nukes can eliminate a country from the map. Millions will die once one of these nukes explodes and 10s and 100s of millions will die from radiation poisoning, thirst and hunger. And not a single air force jet will be used to launc any of those history changing nuclear armed missiles.
If you don't believe me, set your sofa on fire and try to put it out.
lightning f57
Trusted Member
Yahu wont care with Iran controlling SOH as he will push for a pipeline going through Israel from the gulfies to bypass it.
Can't see the gulfies going via Israel to med.
Lulldapull
Trusted Member
Irans winning this!
delta2
Registered Member
Pakistani armed forces did have a presence in the KSA in the 1980s. For some odd reason they were asked to leave on behest of someone.
delta2
Registered Member
As long as the Iranian Mullahs are acting crazy, nothing is off the table for them. They have to see a mushroom cloud for reality to hit them.
lamdacore
Registered Member
US has not yet prevailed over Iran. Time will tell if it does.
SIGINT is only as good as till you can detect such things that emit signals but not necessarily passive sensors. The 20th century US power believe that every country is going to fight wars the way they do. That is not the case and that is rapidly changing.
You are making the assumptions that all countries will rely on radars to detect and lock in on targets. You do not account for decoys, counter-intelligence, and passive detection methods which are definitely gaining ground and ever more precise. Iran engaged in direct jammping of GPS funnily showing many ships on land. The shootdown of US aircraft was a result of counter-SIGINT from Iran.
You relying much on your own experience, which while valuable, is nearing obsolescence. Not saying that US can keep pace but current trajectory shows it probably will struggle thanks to excessive profiteering and acquisition of defence articles which is going to be increasingly unsustainable is the petro dollar takes a hit.
During your relic years the US indeed had absolute dominance but now we see pics of US military assets nakedly exposed via Beidou and Russian assets. This directly translates into 5th Gen assets being hit....a fact that can not be denied no matter the reasons the US provides. Fact that Iran shot down US aircraft and busted the myth of invincibility. Fact that Iran keeps the USN at length effectively making a spectator rather than an active participant (unless you only tomahawks).
The thing is that we are all witnessing a nation, full of hubris, that is going to fall and all can see it except the US itself. That is fine by everyone....its time the US fell.
So let the US do its worse to Iran and see if it come out victorious....I place a big fat doubt on it.
Anyway, I respect old men sharing their past glories...those were well earned but they do not become the benchmark of what is to come.
dr.coomer
Registered Member
Just an FYI tactical nuclear weapons aren't like those in movies or video games. The radiation dissipates very quickly. Maybe if you directly target population centers, but then the issue still exists who are you going to fire the nuke at?
EugeneP
Trusted Member
This is The Times (U.K.) reporting:
www.thetimes.com
Is there any evidence of his audio/video/picture in the last month?
Iran’s supreme leader ‘unconscious and receiving treatment in Qom’
Iran’s supreme leader ‘unconscious and receiving treatment in Qom’
A diplomatic memo reveals the location of Mojtaba Khamenei. He was wounded in the same US-Israeli airstrike that killed his father
www.thetimes.com
Is there any evidence of his audio/video/picture in the last month?
Zarvan
Elite Member
One month and ten days of this war between the USA and Israel on one side and Iran on the other side has once again proved a few points that the will to survive and no fear of death will eventually triumph over the will to occupy and make people slaves or make them surrender to your will. On the other hand, this conflict also makes it clear that if you lack technology, power, and military might, you may eventually win against a bigger, stronger, and vastly more powerful enemy. Still, the destruction in your own country after the end of the war will be catastrophic, and it will take decades and a huge sum of money to recover from that. In other words, you need both; you need progress, but that doesn't mean you lose the will and appetite to fight and, if needed, die for your own country. So, the will to fight and obliterate your enemy, plus investing in education, technology, and military might, have to go along. You ignore one you pay a very heavy price.
Hassan Al-Somal
Elite Member
U.S. Central Command:
CLAIM: Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps claim they attacked and struck the amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli (LHA 7) with missiles, forcing it to withdraw from the region to the southern Indian Ocean.
FACT: USS Tripoli has not been attacked and continues to sail in the Arabian Sea in support of Operation Epic Fury. The America-class amphibious assault ship serves as the flagship for the Tripoli Amphibious Ready Group / 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit composed of about 3,500 Sailors and Marines in addition to transport and strike fighter aircraft, as well as amphibious assault and tactical assets.
CLAIM: Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps claim they attacked and struck the amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli (LHA 7) with missiles, forcing it to withdraw from the region to the southern Indian Ocean. FACT: USS Tripoli has not been attacked and continues to sail in the Arabian Sea in support of Operation Epic Fury. The America-class amphibious assault ship serves as the flagship for the Tripoli Amphibious Ready Group / 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit composed of about 3,500 Sailors and Marines in addition to transport and strike fighter aircraft, as well as amphibious assault and tactical assets.
