Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

Lol ..... They are always in the comment sections dishing out death threats

 

[RocketLaw]

MAJOR BREAKING:

Pakistan just said it directly.

The ceasefire included Lebanon.

Not implied. Not assumed. Not lost in translation.

Included.

Pakistan’s Prime Minister put it in the announcement. In writing. With U.S. involvement.

And now Israel is bombing Beirut. And Vance calls it a “reasonable misunderstanding.”

And Netanyahu says Lebanon was never part of the deal.

Someone is lying.



Included!

Can you pronounce "included"? Shabaaaash!

 

[UndercoverJIX]

So US scammed Iran legally because it couldn't secure a convincing win against Iran on the battlefield?

Knowing the past behaviour and nature of the deceptive and dishonest opposing party, iran should have been more attentive and precise what they put in writing.

 

[LeonBlack08]

War is not necessarily a win-lose situation; it can also be a lose-lose or a win-win scenario. Whether Iran fails does not prove whether the United Staes succeeds.


You can talk about what the United States has gained and lost from this war. Only in this way can we correctly determine whether the United States has won.

Very good point, war can also be win win or lose lose. Doesn't have to be one single outcome.

Also - We need to compare what US's stated objectives were with what they have achieved so far. It was supposed to be regime change, it didn't happen.

Even if we consider US's true objective was to weaken Iran to the point it is no longer is a threat to Israel - that is also something US failed to achieve. In fact, Iran is now more dangerous than ever. They are still launching missiles and in fact unveiling new weapon systems after surviving tremendous US Israeli bombing campaign. They are definitely going to pursue nuclear weapon with the amount of HEU they have in their possession.

In fact, faced with existential threat, they could lash out by triggering a dirty bomb somewhere in Israel, if they are unable to achieve the capability to build a nuclear warhead.

And finally - Iran still controls the Strait of Hormuz and holds the global economy hostage.

So anyone claiming that US won, is just blinded by patriotism.

Given the disparity in military strength, surviving the onslaught of the mighty US military for more than one month is nothing short of a victory for Iran. They were always going to get hammered by US. The question was whether they would survive or not. And they did.

I am surprised people with military experience can't seem to comprehend this simple thing.

 

[Fatman17]

 

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[Shags101]

Well pessimisti in me says let’s see if people aren’t really just buying some time to build up more troops and offensive capabilities one part of the ceasefire was supposed to be Lebanon it looks like trump currently did Israel a favor so they can solely focus on destroying the capabilities so if there is a next round Hezbollah won’t be as capable as they have been how much you want to bet Houthis are next

 

[Cipher212]

No, the US lost against Iran. We lost badly.

You failed to do regime change, you failed to disable even a single missile base, you failed to defend your bases in the middle east and your Arab allies lost confidence in you to protect them. You failed to defend Israel. You failed in taking out the Houthis, Hezbollah or any other proxy. Basically you did nothing except unsanction Iranian oil and give them control of the Strait.

I'm not even going to bother counting 'taking out their airforce' because they never had one. Their most capable jets were a few surplus MiG-29As that fired R-27s probably. Same for their museum piece Navy.

 

[Aggregate]

At one time I used to absolutely hate Megyn Kelly due to her right wing BS. But looks like almost everyone in the US right wing is now sick and tired of israel. Megyn Kelly, Bill Oriley, Tucker Carlson are just some of the most prominent ones .. if they are so fed up of israel and the genocidal wars, then I won't be surprised if all the polls about israeli support in US right wing are being faked right now.

Hopefully this will get to such a tipping point that even AIPAC won't be able to do anything about it and US politics would hopefully shift over to an anti-israel one (or at least a neutral one) too. For the fist time I am starting to see hopes of it, considering how sick and tired everyone is becoming, of israel.

 

[Falcon29]

If Israel keeps attacking Hezbollah’s before than Hezbollah needs to fight back and if Irans not in its corner which I’m hoping they will be but if they’re not they’re going to have to show the Arab world that the little guy is sometimes the toughest guy on the block

Iran will tell them to stand down for the two weeks so don't count on it. They'll respond in low intensity manner for mean time and Israel will likely keep it that way too.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

On the afternoon of April 8, Fazli, the Iranian ambassador to China, held a press conference.

He said: We have always maintained active and in-depth dialogue and cooperation with friendly countries such as Russia and China in various fields.

From the very first day of the illegal war against Iran by the United States and Israel, the Chinese side has expressed deep concern over the aggression Iran has suffered and has strongly condemned the attacks on Iran by the United States and Israel. I want to thank the Chinese ambassador to Iran for his tireless efforts and the continuous support provided by China at all levels.

In the past few years, the United States has broken its commitments three times after negotiating or reaching agreements with Iran.

Iran has consistently maintained intensive consultations with countries such as China, Russia, Pakistan, Turkey, and Egypt. We hope to reach a reasonable basis for dialogue through consultations and promote a peaceful resolution of the situation.

On April 7, the United Nations Security Council voted on a draft resolution concerning the Strait of Hormuz, and China and Russia cast opposing votes. The Iranian ambassador to China expressed gratitude for this at the press conference.

Fazli, the Iranian ambassador to China, said: These negotiations, these interactions, and the stance taken by China are all based on the principles of international security and international law. China's courageous voice on this issue and its communication of its position to the international community will be long remembered by the peoples of all countries, showing that China chose the right side and a historically just position.

The Iranian people will never forget China's support. This also proves that China and Russia are true friends of Iran in times of difficulty.

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伊朗驻华大使感谢中国在安理会投下反对票

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[BHAN85]

I would drop a nuke on their 'common people ' and I imagine that will stop it overnight

It would change nothing, they don't take decisions

A lot more effective cut off supply of money from USA to Israeli rulers

 

[Shags101]

Iran will tell them to stand down for the two weeks so don't count on it. They'll respond in low intensity manner for mean time and Israel will likely keep it that way too.

I think if we keep getting days like this Iran tells them to stand down or not I don’t think Hezbollah is going to be able too but I’m going to sleep night