Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ghazi52]

JD Vance sets off for hardest assignment since taking office
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Daniel Bush
BBC Washington correspondent

Vice President JD Vance just set off on the hardest assignment he’s had since taking office alongside President Donald Trump.

Vance will be the centre of attention this weekend as he leads the American delegation at the US-Iran talks in Islamabad. The negotiations come after both sides agreed to a temporary two-week ceasefire.

Vance faces a difficult balancing act in trying to secure a permanent end to the war that will satisfy Trump, Tehran, Israel and America’s allies.

The vice president will also face pressure to deliver something that Trump - and Vance’s - anti-interventionist Maga supporters view as a victory.

It’s unclear what solution, if any, can make every side in the conflict happy. Or if there’s a quick fix to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and bring down oil prices.

Vance said as he left Washington on Friday morning that Trump gave the US team “some pretty clear guidelines” for the talks. What those are - and the outcome of these discussions - remains to be seen.

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[The SC]

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[Irfan Baloch]

We Pakistanis overall needs to be educated that all jews world wide are not bad or "evil". Its state of Israel or more particularly the zionists that we need to be concerned of.

correctly said, there are some very couragious Jewish people who are the loudest voice and have condemned and campaigned against the Zionist at their own expense. despised by the Israelis. such examplesa re hard to find among Muslims, we hardly manage to look beyond our sectarian lines, let alone speak for Christians, Hindus or Jews or other faith.
I find myself having to clarify that I am not a Shia due to my support for Iran and Hizbullah but its because they are on the right side of history and sadly I cant say the same for those who showewred billions on Trump and danced and partied while the Israelis bombed Gaza and Lebanon.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Total losses of Hormuz Traffic

Skylight — Oil/chemical tanker — GT: 30,040 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $81.8 million — Combined estimate: $133.8 million

Hercules Star — Oil products tanker — GT: 6,081 — Vessel cost: $19.7 million — Loaded cargo cost: $12.8 million — Combined estimate: $32.6 million

MKD Vyom — Oil tanker — GT: 42,010 — Vessel cost: $74.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $73.3 million — Combined estimate: $147.3 million

Ocean Electra — Tanker — GT: 26,916 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $76.1 million — Combined estimate: $128.1 million

Athe Nova — Asphalt/bitumen tanker — GT: 2,502 — Vessel cost: $3.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $1.2 million — Combined estimate: $4.7 million

Stena Imperative — Oil products tanker — GT: 29,680 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $79.9 million — Combined estimate: $131.9 million

Pelagia — Bulk carrier — GT: 43,024 — Vessel cost: $36.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $53.6 million — Combined estimate: $90.1 million

Gold Oak — Bulk carrier — GT: 23,232 — Vessel cost: $29.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $24.6 million — Combined estimate: $54.1 million

Libra Trader — Crude oil tanker — GT: 160,601 — Vessel cost: $128.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $307.1 million — Combined estimate: $435.1 million

Safeen Prestige — Container ship — GT: 18,252 — Vessel cost: $56.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $94.8 million — Combined estimate: $150.8 million

MSC Grace — Container ship — GT: 155,104 — Vessel cost: $220.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $872.0 million — Combined estimate: $1.092 billion

Sonangol Namibe — Crude oil tanker — GT: 83,469 — Vessel cost: $86.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $156.8 million — Combined estimate: $242.8 million

Louise P — Oil products tanker — GT: 17,858 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $40.4 million — Combined estimate: $92.4 million

Mayuree Naree — Bulk carrier — GT: 19,891 — Vessel cost: $29.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $19.7 million — Combined estimate: $49.2 million

One Majesty — Container ship — GT: 78,410 — Vessel cost: $115.1 million — Loaded cargo cost: $366.5 million — Combined estimate: $481.6 million

Star Gwyneth — Bulk carrier — GT: 43,027 — Vessel cost: $36.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $54.1 million — Combined estimate: $90.6 million

Express Rome — Container ship — GT: 113,973 — Vessel cost: $133.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $551.2 million — Combined estimate: $684.2 million

Source Blessing — Container ship — GT: 40,146 — Vessel cost: $49.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $176.4 million — Combined estimate: $225.4 million

Zefyros — Oil products tanker — GT: 29,924 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $80.5 million — Combined estimate: $132.5 million

Safesea Vishnu — Oil products tanker — GT: 42,010 — Vessel cost: $74.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $73.2 million — Combined estimate: $147.2 million

Gas Al Ahmadiah — Oil products / gas tanker — GT: 49,394 — Vessel cost: $74.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $44.1 million — Combined estimate: $118.1 million

Al Salmi — Oil products tanker — GT: 162,625 — Vessel cost: $128.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $316.3 million — Combined estimate: $444.3 million

Haiphong Express — Container ship — GT: 113,509 — Vessel cost: $133.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $550.5 million — Combined estimate: $683.5 million

Grand total

Total vessel cost: about $1.7 billion

Total loaded cargo cost: about $4.3billion

Combined estimate: about $6 billion

What is the economic cost to Iran of :

a) destroyed economic and civilian infrastructure.
b) destroyed Iranian military assets ( ships, planes, bases )
c) cost of executing the war itself ?

There is also a cost to Iran aswell.

 

[ToddE]

Dates	Side	Aircraft	Count	Cost	Subtotal	Link
28 Feb; 1 Mar; 3 Mar; 6 Mar; 10 Mar	Israel	Elbit Hermes 900	9	43	387	https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/bj7w7td8kg
2 Mar; 6 Mar; 9 Mar; 28 Mar	Israel	IAI Heron	5	16	80	https://www.military.africa/2020/02/morocco-receives-iai-heron-uav-in-48-million-deal/
3 Mar; 6 Mar	Israel	IAI Eitan / Heron TP	3	40	120	https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/india-to-buy-15-harop-suicide-drones-from-israel-578947
22 Mar; 1 Apr	Israel	Elbit Hermes 450	2	2	4	https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-intentionally-crashes-uav-after-detecting-malfunction/
2 Mar; 3 Apr	United States	F-15E Strike Eagle	4	100	400	https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-news-2026/card/how-much-do-the-jet-fighters-that-crashed-cost--gLkKICTeiWqzVBsiSDVw
5 Mar; 6 Mar; 7 Mar; 9 Mar; 11 Mar; 13 Mar; 15 Mar; 20 Mar; 28 Mar; 31 Mar; 2 Apr; 5 Apr; 6 Apr	United States + Italy	MQ-9 Reaper	20	32	640	https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/06/10/why-the-air-force-needs-a-cheaper-reaper/
12 Mar; 13 Mar; 27 Mar	United States	KC-135 Stratotanker	8	221	1,767	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/KC-46A_SAR_DEC_2022.pdf
27 Mar	United States	KC-46 Pegasus	1	221	221	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/KC-46A_SAR_DEC_2022.pdf
19 Mar	United States	F-35 Lightning II	1	101	101	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/F-35_SAR_Dec_2022_25_July_2023.pdf
23 Mar; 3 Apr	United States	UH-60 Black Hawk	2	80	160	https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/09/30/2025-19040/arms-sales-notification
3 Apr	United States	HH-60W	2	290	480	https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4241742/norway-hh-60w-helicopters
3 Apr	United States	A-10 Thunderbolt II	1	20	20	https://www.127wg.ang.af.mil/About-127th-Wing/Fact-Sheets/Article/3665798/air-force-a-10-thunderbolt-ii/
3 Apr	United States	CH-47F Chinook	1	220	220	https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4182033/united-arab-emirates-ch-47f-chinook-helicopters
5 Apr	United States	MC-130J Commando II	2	115	230	https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104510/mc-130j-commando-ii/
15 Mar	Italy	Eurofighter Typhoon	2	120	240	https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/07/23/turkey-uk-agree-on-eurofighter-exports-in-step-closer-to-deal/
2 Apr; 3 Apr	UAE / Saudi Arabia	CAIG Wing Loong II	2	6	12	https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3349036/iran-demands-explanations-saudis-and-uae-after-chinese-made-drone-was-shot-down
21 Mar	GCC civilian	Airbus A380	1	446	446	https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbta136/files/2021-07/new-airbus-list-prices-2018.pdf
21 Mar	GCC civilian	Airbus A321	1	130	130	https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbta136/files/2021-07/new-airbus-list-prices-2018.pdf
9 Apr	US	RQ-4C Triton	1	200	200	https://thedefensepost.com/2025/05/08/rq4-global-hawk-guide/

Known and Acknowledged US/Israel/PGCC/NATO aircrafts destroyed/damaged ​

Numbers downed: 85​

Grand total of costed: ~ 6 Billion USD​

PS.
(1) Unknown cost and types of 3 Jets destroyed at Ben-Gurien Airport (Not included).
(2) Iranian claimed list is as follows:

- 2 F-15 (claimed friendly fire)
- 1 F-15 (Kuwaiti F-18?)
- 1 KC-135 (claimed shot down by Iraqi militias)
- 1 KC-135 (damaged, claimed mid-air collision)
- ~20 Hermes-900 (claimed by Iran)
- ~10 Heron family (claimed by Iran)
- ~24 MQ-9 Reaper
- 1 KC-135 (heavily damaged on the ground)
- 3 KC-135 (damaged on the ground)
- 1 F-35 (heavily damaged/crash-landed)
- 1 F/A-18E (light damage by SAM)
- 1 KC-135 (destroyed on the ground)
- 3 KC-135 (claimed damaged on the ground)
- 1 E-3 AWACS (destroyed on the ground)
- 1 E-3 AWACS (claimed damaged on the ground)
- 2 EC-130H (claimed destroyed on the ground)
- 1 UH-60 Blackhawk (hit by Iraqi FPV drone)
- 1 F-15E (shot down)
- 1 A-10 (shot down over Strait of Hormuz)
- 1 A-10 (damaged & crashed, northern P. Gulf)
- 1 HH-60 (hit and crash-landed in Iraq)
- 1 HH-60 (hit by small arms, damaged)
- 1 CH-47 (hit on the ground, irreparably damaged)
- 2 HC-130 (hit/destroyed on the ground by U.S.)
- 4 MH-6 (destroyed on the ground by U.S.)
- 1 RQ-4C Triton (shot down)
- 3 Jets of Un-known types at BenGurien Airport.

Total 90 Aircrafts.

Both sides match

I have seen many wars but first time we are seeing both sides matching in losses acknowledged = claims made.

 

[Goenitz]

Saad rafiq's tweet is still ok. Khawaja asif tweet was actually antisemitic rant. It wasn't focused just at Israel but included European jews and even targeted Europeans to be burn in hell, for creation of Israel.

Khawaja asif looks like an illiterate person, It was seriously absurd for a state's official. Such could be tolerated if any opposition member say something like that. Even Iranians do not post antisemitic statements. Iran have lots of jews, they have synagogues in Tehran.

We Pakistanis overall needs to be educated that all jews world wide are not bad or "evil". Its state of Israel or more particularly the zionists that we need to be concerned of.

It is a feudal mindset that can escalate to such levels. Anyway, we have to firefight now. That is why I said if we can take media to churches and some synagogue or their graveyard in Pakistan, that will be helpful.

In fact, give Khawaja a media appearance and a question about it. He should clarify his pov. MOFA should help him in his responses.

 

[ghazi52]

Islamabad waiting for US and Iran delegations to arrive
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Carrie Davies
BBC Reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan

Image source, EPA/Shutterstock

In Islamabad, the security cordon is extending.

While the BBC was filming in the D-Chowk area of the city, near the President's House, the main crossroads in front of parliament, the police began to move TV crews back.

A spokesman for the Islamabad police told the team that they expected the delegations to arrive shortly, although they did not confirm who would be arriving or when.

Around the red zone – the area of the capital with the majority of government buildings and foreign embassies – has been closed off with barbed wire.

There are an increased number of checkpoints in the city and less traffic on the streets. Police, army and paramilitaries are on the streets to provide security and international journalists are landing in the city.

As yet there is no official confirmation that either of the delegations have arrived in the capital.

Yesterday, Iran’s ambassador to Pakistan posted that their delegation would be landing that night, but deleted the post within an hour.

There’s also been no official schedule announced by Pakistan, but the White House had previously said that the talks would take place on Saturday morning. Islamabad is waiting.

 

[ToddE]

What is the economic cost to Iran of :

a) destroyed economic and civilian infrastructure.
b) destroyed Iranian military assets ( ships, planes, bases )
c) cost of executing the war itself ?

There is also a cost to Iran aswell.

Wait a lil, I am compiling lists with as much verification as possible.

In short, Iran has lost 47 aircrafts and 7-8 ships (IRIN-IRGCN) completely sunk. Total war losses are amounting to 140 Billion USD which is upward close to net exports in one year (110-120 Billion USD).

 

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[Ali_Baba]

Wait a lil, I am compiling lists with as much verification as possible.

In short, Iran has lost 47 aircrafts.

Thanks.

The gas fields were also attacked, and the Iranian navy etc.

 

[Immortals]

Islamabad waiting for US and Iran delegations to arrive​

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Carrie Davies
BBC Reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan

Image source, EPA/Shutterstock

In Islamabad, the security cordon is extending.

While the BBC was filming in the D-Chowk area of the city, near the President's House, the main crossroads in front of parliament, the police began to move TV crews back.

A spokesman for the Islamabad police told the team that they expected the delegations to arrive shortly, although they did not confirm who would be arriving or when.

Around the red zone – the area of the capital with the majority of government buildings and foreign embassies – has been closed off with barbed wire.

There are an increased number of checkpoints in the city and less traffic on the streets. Police, army and paramilitaries are on the streets to provide security and international journalists are landing in the city.

As yet there is no official confirmation that either of the delegations have arrived in the capital.

Yesterday, Iran’s ambassador to Pakistan posted that their delegation would be landing that night, but deleted the post within an hour.

There’s also been no official schedule announced by Pakistan, but the White House had previously said that the talks would take place on Saturday morning. Islamabad is waiting.

Any other news regarding the security implementations that Pakistan is doing besides BBC News? Is parts of the city being evacuated?

 

[hussain0216]

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[Immortals]

 

[ToddE]

Thanks.

The gas fields were also attacked, and the Iranian navy etc.

The 145 Billion USD estimate includes all of them and is official figure now which Iran may demand as reparation.

The preliminary numbers I am seeing as damage on the other side is in 1 x Trillion+ USD.