Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[KAL-EL]

Hopefully the buffet has some nice 'medicine' inside.

Yikes! Won't even go there

 

[Meengla]

For anyone interested how negotiation can proceed , sen mushahid described from his past experience in a recent video.
Both hating parties sit in seperate rooms and a person is called to take paper from one party to the other (sitting in another room).funny part is that they never get to see each other..a messenger is carrying papers from one room to the other

I don't think the pigeon carrying paper route between the rooms is going to last long, if even happens. As early as tonight there maybe face to face. Also, a major American channel (CBS?) reported that JD Vance will not stay even full 24 hours. His flight was 15 hours to Islamabad and that started, unless false reported, about 6-7 hours ago.
If Vance is staying that briefly then he is just going shove it down Kurshner and Witkoff throats some broad concessions to make to wrap it up and he goes home. A wild guess!

 

[uknwit]

this is not real but a lot of aerial activity over isl rn

Are the boys on afterburners?

 

[Oscar]

Specific to the summit:

Gentlemen - I want to offer a sobering perspective regarding our eagerness to bring updates.

Yes

There are plenty of news streams and tiktok users on Honda motorbikes here and there.

But while flight radar provides one perspective , giving so much additional context on something this critical and sensitive in real time can be that little push that opens up door for malevolent opportunities.

Im not asking to not say anything on updates, not being alarmist

but at the same time as minor a channel as PDF may be in the overall bombardment from news channels in Pakistan I cannot even name anymore, and “influenza” on Instagram that posts every Air Blue flight as PAF fighters -

lets delay our updates just a little and avoid anything that could expose or even hint at specifics of security (or lack therof)

Happy to be corrected if you felt this was unwarranted, harsh or plain much ado about nothing

 

[Abdul q]

Specific to the summit:

Gentlemen - I want to offer a sobering perspective regarding our eagerness to bring updates.

Yes

There are plenty of news streams and tiktok users on Honda motorbikes here and there.

But while flight radar provides one perspective , giving so much additional context on something this critical and sensitive in real time can be that little push that opens up door for malevolent opportunities.

Im not asking to not say anything on updates, not being alarmist

but at the same time as minor a channel as PDF may be in the overall bombardment from news channels in Pakistan I cannot even name anymore, and “influenza” on Instagram that posts every Air Blue flight as PAF fighters -

lets delay our updates just a little and avoid anything that could expose or even hint at specifics of security (or lack therof)

Happy to be corrected if you felt this was unwarranted, harsh or plain much ado about nothing

Its on X before PDF…. Infact most of material in here comes from X… but i get it

 

[Persian Gulf]

did anyone understand why the US used two large C-130 planes with hundreds of special forces deep in Iran to rescue one WSO? which conveniently happened to be 40km from Iran's Esfahan nuclear facility where the 60% enriched uranium is believed to be stored?

and how the C-130s used an abandoned runway but also somehow got stuck in mud, despite the C-130s being built to operate on unpaved runways?

 

[Abdul q]

did anyone understand why the US used two large C-130 planes with hundreds of special forces deep in Iran to rescue one WSO? which conveniently happened to be 40km from Iran's Esfahan nuclear facility where the 60% enriched uranium is believed to be stored?

and how the C-130s used an abandoned runway but also somehow got stuck in mud, despite the C-130s being built to operate on unpaved runways?

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Yeah that’s called hollywood level Bullshyt

 

[nervouscar]

I don't think the pigeon carrying paper route between the rooms is going to last long, if even happens. As early as tonight there maybe face to face. Also, a major American channel (CBS?) reported that JD Vance will not stay even full 24 hours. His flight was 15 hours to Islamabad and that started, unless false reported, about 6-7 hours ago.
If Vance is staying that briefly then he is just going shove it down Kurshner and Witkoff throats some broad concessions to make to wrap it up and he goes home. A wild guess!

I found some video on witkoff approach ..he carried apollo pager(ones manufactured by taiwan but had mosad chips and used by hizbullah) last time to negotiate in oman .. seperate rooms are needed also to group discuss easily and proceed like in chess(opponent doesnot read face tensions,feelings) hopefully some book will come out later yearsits all about comfort of parties-since its mediation

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

did anyone understand why the US used two large C-130 planes with hundreds of special forces deep in Iran to rescue one WSO? which conveniently happened to be 40km from Iran's Esfahan nuclear facility where the 60% enriched uranium is believed to be stored?

and how the C-130s used an abandoned runway but also somehow got stuck in mud, despite the C-130s being built to operate on unpaved runways?

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I would watch HistoryLegends video on the subject

 

[dbc]

no one is going to start a war over JD Vance.

 

[nervouscar]

IF these talks fail (hopefully not)i pray Pakistan come out of this nonsense peacemaking PR campaign and act to assist or liberate iran and KSA respectively swiftly

 

[Aziqbal]

The MAGA movement is dead

It started off being America first then became Israel first

Tucker Carlson
Candice Owen’s
Megan fox
Nick Fuentes
Alex Jones
Marjorie Taylor Greene

And many more MAGA supporters who put their lives on the line for Trump have been dumped

And who has the ear of Trump? Zionists who put Israel first

Randy Fine
Mark Levin
Ben Shapiro
Laura Loomer
Lindsey Graham
Mike Pompeo

all Israel first

American politics is changing

2028 we will see for the first time ever American first candidates

JD Vance will run for 2028 either he puts America first or it’s another candidate

 

[clutch]

did anyone understand why the US used two large C-130 planes with hundreds of special forces deep in Iran to rescue one WSO? which conveniently happened to be 40km from Iran's Esfahan nuclear facility where the 60% enriched uranium is believed to be stored?

and how the C-130s used an abandoned runway but also somehow got stuck in mud, despite the C-130s being built to operate on unpaved runways?

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This video does a real good job explaining the details of the botched mission....

 

[side-winder]

Asim Munir and Ishaq Dar receive Iranian Delegation at Nur Khan Base.

 

[Musings]

All day Indians have been getting their chadees in a twist.
This is about peace breaking out - end of people losing their home and lives. If Pakistan can facilitate this then great.
India is actually humiliating themselves. Thank the lord Pakistan was created so we dont have to be part of their shit