Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

So China forced us to accept a ceasefire, but couldn’t force us to accept the conditions for the ceasefire? What are you saying? How are they forcing us then

Read again. It's very simple. Read it again until you understand the difference. I am not here to teach you how to read.

The world economy was on the verge of collapse when the war ended.
This war is shifting towards economic submission at this point. Just like how Iran tried to use energy and raw materials coming out of the region as a means to end the war, the US will do the same to Iran soon. Iran lost a 2-week head start by accepting this ceasefire.

 

[ety]

How does China force us to do anything? Russia also has veto if that’s what you mean they’re pressuring us with?

Indeed, Iran didn't absolutely need China's veto in UNSC this time, Russia also vetoed it. Russia is an independent country from China.

 

[MH.Yang]

In fact, neither the United States nor Iran has the sincerity to hold peace talks, and neither of them has the popular support for peace talks domestically.

The reason why they went to Pakistan is just to strive to perform in front of people all over the world, and to make their opponents bear the responsibility of destroying peace and the world economy. So Trump said negotiations were based on Iran's 10 conditions, while the Iranian government said the United States asked them to surrender unconditionally.

Isn't this the result we guessed from the beginning?

 

[ShapurII]

Pakistan China pushed for the ceasefire and talks, its a good move to end the war, I guess it didnt work as we expected but what else can they do.

Pakistan was simply an executioner of decisions made by the others. No blame on Pakistan as it has no weight to impose anything on Iran. China, however, betrayed us again.

 

[mangekyo]

Read again. It's very simple. Read it again until you understand the difference. I am not here to teach you how to read.

The world economy was on the verge of collapse when the war ended.
This war is shifting towards economic submission at this point. Just like how Iran tried to use energy and raw materials coming out of the region as a means to end the war, the US will do the same to Iran soon. Iran lost a 2-week head start by accepting this ceasefire.

I know how to read, you’re just making up a nonsense conspiracy theory.

 

[ShapurII]

I know how to read, you’re just making up a nonsense conspiracy theory.

You clearly don't because your questions show otherwise.

 

[Mobius]

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if the war resumes, Iran will also do a massive 24-48hr missile barrage as well. they have got time to re-group as well.

 

[mangekyo]

You clearly don't because your questions show otherwise.

If you think harder, you can understand why I am asking those questions. If Iran did not want to enter negotiations, but China somehow forced Iran. They would have forced Iran to accept the American conditions too.

 

[Mobius]

if the war resumes, Iran will also do a massive 24-48hr missile barrage as well. they have got time to re-group as well.

I hope so. They should focus on Israel & UAE this time.

 

[clutch]

Why is US hell bent on preventing Irani nukes though? Even N.korea has nukes. Its for deterrence not to blow up other countries.

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[MH.Yang]

Indeed, Iran didn't absolutely need China's veto in UNSC this time, Russia also vetoed it. Russia is an independent country from China.

As far as I know, not only China and Russia, but also France voted against it.

So Iran doesn't need China's veto power at all. China has not used its veto power to pressure Iran.

If China had really abandoned Iran, the China Iran railway should have stopped transportation long ago. But as far as I know, not only has the China Iran railway not stopped, but four Y-20 planes have also arrived in Iran.

 

[ShapurII]

If you think harder, you can understand why I am asking those questions. If Iran did not want to enter negotiations, but China somehow forced Iran. They would have forced Iran to accept the American conditions too.

If you think harder and read carefully, I already explained it a few posts earlier.

I said the Chinese wanted a ceasefire, not Iran's surrender. And I have already explained why.

 

[ShapurII]

As far as I know, not only China and Russia, but also France voted against it.

France didn't vote against it. France voted yes.

 

[MH.Yang]

France didn't vote against it. France voted yes.

Israel does not want peace talks and hopes to undermine the relationship between Iran and China. Your actions are completely in line with Israel's wishes. Is this a coincidence?