Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[The SC]

US just anniunced the complete blockade of Strait of Hormuz…

the whole world will go in a economic tailspin.

Urgent:

Axios quotes an American official:
These were the red lines in the negotiations with Iran in Pakistan:

-Washington requested a freeze on uranium enrichment in Iran
-It requested the removal of enriched uranium from the country
-It Requested the dismantling of uranium enrichment facilities (most of which were destroyed in US and Israeli strikes)
-It requested the full reopening of the Strait of Hormuz and the cancellation of transit fees
- It asked Iran for a regional security agreement and to stop funding terrorist organizations and militias in the region
-There are also gaps between the two parties regarding the volume of release of frozen Iranian funds, according to a source familiar with the details

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[Shags101]

So I was going to bring this up but of course Bibi corruption appearance got canceled yet again most likely preparing for something big I mean the Iranians have to just watch for those cancellations to know something big is about occur @Immortals @Persian Gulf

 

[The SC]

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[Meengla]

Also, even your theory is ridiculous. So, the Iranian delegation flew over a thousand kilometers from Tehran to some small Iranian city near Pakistan to be escorted by you for the remaining flight path?

Don't twist my words! Hussain Baqri had named some Iranian city's name which I don't remember but it was certainly not a 'thousand' of KMs from Tehran. I never said that. You remind me of a certain Pakistani-American here who does such insertions and then backs off; it seems like you have this trait all the time in your posts.
And who would give you some 'official' or 'factual' proof? Those who are supposed to keep such technology as hidden as possible?
Anyway, how do you explain the Iranian delegation flying thousands of KM to land in Islamabad when the topmost Iranian leadership is being taken out like some turkey shoot right inside Tehran itself?
I am done with you on this topic.

 

[Kyussis]

This is why people here insisted that OTH radars are not enough for a country with Iran's topography. This is why you need AWACS planes and jet fighters to cover your air space and blind spots.

What good would AWACS be for Iran when their support infrastructure on the ground is volnerable to Enemy saturation fire of Stand off weapons?

Shahed-136 carries a 40-45 kg warhead. A Tomahawk missile carries a 450kg warhead. Apples and oranges.

I was not comparing them against each other. I wrote that if slow ass Shahed-136 can penetrate U.S air defenses in the region ( over flat terrain). It is unreasonable to expect Iran to do better against much faster U.S cruise missiles flying through Valleys between mountains.

 

[hasssanali8998]

You had above denied any Pakistani aircraft presence in Iran to help the Iranian delegates

becasue PAF never entered irani airspace , we just escorted them through afghani and pakistani airspace

 

[Meengla]

So I was going to bring this up but of course Bibi corruption appearance got canceled yet again most likely preparing for something big I mean the Iranians have to just watch for those cancellations to know something big is about occur @Immortals @Persian Gulf

Good post.
And can you believe Trump is publicly calling the Israeli President all sorts of names asking the Israeli President to drop the corruption charges on Netanyahu. Isn't that not only meddling in another country's domestic affairs but also shows to what extent Trump is a Netanyahu stooge?!

 

[hasssanali8998]

I would go even further and say that the Pakistani escort was only a symbolic act of friendship with Iran, and also a symbolic act of prestige for PR by the PAF.

no , it wasnt symbolic . we didnt even see an official video or post by paf

 

[ShapurII]

All with the exception of the Mig-29s (which only came into service at the end of the war) where 3rd Gen aircraft. All the Russian aircraft were downgraded export version of what the Soviets where flying at the time. Iran had 4th Generation F-14s from day one and our older F-4D/Es where more capable than most the types flown by the Iraqis. This is why I said their only advantage was Quantitative. Unlike Iran, Iraq was able to purchase fighters to replace their loses and build up their fleet.

Our F-14s were the game changer weapon for us. Anyway, the point is that the IRIAF and the IRIAA helped us defend our territory and even expand into the Iraqi territory.

We could've invested in an air force. The Russians sold us RD-33 engines and were developing a joint fighter named Shafagh with us.

They have lost more than that but those are the ones that proof has been provided for.

It's hard to hide the shooting down of a jet fighter.

 

[mangekyo]

Well to tell ya truth I am not too sure about that. Most use of Western jets is press a button and drop a bomb etc from a mile up there. When was the last time you saw a competent air force fighting against American Israeli etc. against Iraq? Libya? Syria? Iran? Hamas? hezbollah? Yet we always told about invincible IAF or USAF etc

Only place i can see in recent years western jets facing competent air force Pakistan faced Indian raffles and kicked their asses.

Oh and Pakistan jets at a fraction of the cost of western jets why do we accept that their kit is worth so much? Trump forces NATO armies to spend more and buy more kit of America and more money for Americans and jobs etc etc it look a bit scam to me

The thing is that US has the capability to obliterate almost any airforce before they even get a chance to take off. And this is before the US sends in their own airforce.

 

[Shags101]

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Good post.
And can you believe Trump is publicly calling the Israeli President all sorts of names asking the Israeli President to drop the corruption charges on Netanyahu. Isn't that not only meddling in another country's domestic affairs but also shows to what extent Trump is a Netanyahu stooge?!

It’s fine interfering in other peoples corrupt or totalitarian “governments” but as long as you don’t question Trump and his “policies” or call out Bibi and his governments atrocities……because it’s antisemitic to do that…..ok

 

[Meengla]

Things don't get hidden in Pakistan for long and Pakistani officials were involved in the discussions, even as the proverbial 'fly on the wall'. It will be interesting to watch what some credible journalists have to say about the Islamabad Talks based on their engagements with the Iranian delegates...

 

[ety]

Gulf oil including gulf arabs and iran only accounts for 7-8% of total China energy needs. Most is from coal power and clean energy. And China has oil pipelines into russia/central asia and deep connections in africa/brazil/venezuela etc so boost the oil as required.

So end of the day, China is definitely not risking all for something very marginal but will do everything to hurt america as much as possible without getting directly involved.

Unlike India that finds itself in trouble now totally unprepared for this Mideast oil crisis, China has been preparing for this scenario of energy supplies choke esp in Mideast for the last few decades by developing new green energy sources, diversifying oil and gas supplies and stockpiling huge oil reserves.

 

[r3alist]

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[The SC]

Satellite images, according to an American institute, reveal the construction of berms, barriers, and fencing at the Isfahan nuclear facility. (after the 18 th of March)

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