Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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But to be fair - yes - I do sound like many of us heard with parents or teachers

یہی چار سال محنت کے ہیں

ابھی محنت نہیں کرو گے تو بعد میں رو گے

The only thing I wont say is the following because as in a person’s life until the hereafter this is never true

ابھی محنت کرلو پھر ارام اور ایش ہیں

There is no such thing as work-life balance
You integrate the two

You can celebrate whatever you did - great the party is from 5pm to 9pm
now rest and back to the job at hand

عیش * :P
 
yep really stupid , pointed it out when they tested it .
still dont get it

rail tracks/roads are the first things that will be taken out in a war , you already have long range missiles why not just go the iran route
Typically, when any nation engages in a show of force, it will display either the missile itself or its launch platform. In reality, however, launching a ballistic missile requires the support of a vast, complex infrastructure—far more than just a standalone launch platform or the missile itself.

In the case of road-mobile ballistic missile TEL (Transporter-Erector-Launcher) systems, we typically see only the TEL vehicle itself. Yet, behind it lies a massive convoy providing comprehensive support.

Rail-mobile ballistic missile launch systems essentially integrate this entire, extensive support infrastructure onto a single train.

It is worth noting that the TEL systems of most nations are, in practice, capable only of launching from pre-designated sites; they cannot execute a launch at any time or from any random point along a roadway. These pre-designated sites are prepared in advance during their construction phase, complete with the pre-installation of necessary pipelines and cabling.
I think we have enough knowledge on how to dig up tunnels , mostly modern miltary tunnels are built by traditional destructive methods instead of the more expensive TBMs..
1. Military-grade underground engineering systems are extremely complex. This constitutes a highly specialized, independent discipline—one that is far more intricate and challenging than you might imagine.

2. In terms of both economic cost and operational efficiency, Tunnel Boring Machines (TBMs) offer a significantly higher cost-effectiveness ratio compared to manual excavation.
 
This is potentially an impossible and illogical suggestion but Pakistan should leverage this positive energy to “announce” some additional development with nuclear capability specifically for “changing dynamics that require first strike for certain scenarios ” and tie it to to “protection of our red lines including water resources”

The right wording of it is beyond me to make it a both - here’s what happens if you don’t back down from water and tying that in with potential deal making discussions to see if Orangeman can talk to it during one of his ancillary ramblings “You know Pakistanis will do anything to protect their water supply”.

Very “wishful” and “ideal”(from a plan) concept - that I acknowledge
You will need heavier missiles, with larger payloads and MIRV....which means the same will be able to hit the US if employed with lighter and smaller warheads.
 
We as an organisation and as a country suck at laying out our achievements... That too right after any conflict. Since we don't do that, it gives space to our detractors for filing it with their own agenda.... Otherwise, 71, 84, 98...they still have achievements which no one talks about yet....
I don't buy that argument at all. Since when have Pakistanis, or Indians for that matter, shied away from beating their own drum about achievements? Look at after Swift Retort, there was no end to TV shows, videos, and magazine articles. If there was an attempt at a significant broad attack, there's very little to show for it, otherwise we wouldn't hear the end of it. The PAF had something to show after downing multiple Indian jets, so showed it, although in my view they showed a little too much capability.
 
I am of the view that Pakistan always focuses on a tactical level and sometimes loses its sight on a strategic scale.

The battle in 25 did not culminate in India repositioning its stance on IWT. The longer the status quo stays, Pakistan loses leverage on enforcing this issue.

There are diplomatic pressure, nuclear doctrine (as a member mentioned) that can be triggered. But there is absolute silence on this. Pakistan’s water is supposed to be a red line.
 
You will need heavier missiles, with larger payloads and MIRV....which means the same will be able to hit the US if employed with lighter and smaller warheads.
Why?
What existing systems cannot achieve this?
Especially when it is change in messaging and reiterating posture rather than anything different to capability?
 
India have unveiled a new toy:
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American delegate visits India or Pakistan , terrorist activities are done in India to hyphen up Kashmir issue.

Pahalgam terror attack during JD Vance visit was last example.

These so called ceasefire talks might create tensions.
American delegate visits India, India does a false flag to play the victim card. Somehow without even catching the culprits, indians would have pre-fabricated proof to blame Pakistan, but then culprits just disappear as easily as they cross the world's most heavily guarded border, then reach 200/300 KM deep inside the country which is heavily infested by indian military, paramilitary and police.
World has now caught up to your silly girly dramas, besides no one gives a shit if a few smellies are killed by their own government to further their evil designs.
 
When you have "small men occupying big offices", this is the result.
They are petty in their thoughts and behaviour, lack character, confidence an dself respect. so how do they cope, they try to make us look bad so they look good.
 
Trump said he might come to Islamabad to sign the deal, even if he send some high level Dignitary, I think Indians can try to create some issues, or they might just sit this one out.

i dont think they have the balls to do anything at this time. Specially if US delegation is coming to Islamabad.
If they do, they might as well learn a fatal final lesson, inshAllah.
 

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