Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Lulldapull]

Who ams Vortexa and what she du? I never heard of her.


Sorry I've been watching videos of a certain "group of people" that are 13% of US population acting like animals and their language has rubbed off on me.

All news about this all is pretty much fake news and we know it!

 

[Flotilla]

Iran's inflation is approaching 3 digits. Do you think economic pressure works one way only?

Public opinion is of zero relevance to what the decision makers in the US will do.

Completely agree.
But you're mixing Iranian society with american one. And the values and idiosincrasy are completely different.

Iranian society swim in inflation. US did a Revolution 200 years ago because of the price of the tea.

Just let them rise the price of everything 8% and then ask their children to die for Israel.

 

[Haz]

There is no reason to restrict passage toll solely to manmade straights.

Also, the Canal of Suez was first created by the Achaemenids of Persia, and later was revived and expanded by the French and the Brits. Using your logic, Egypt should allow free passage there too, or give the toll money to Iran, UK and France.

Big difference between the two bodies of water that should be basic knowledge for anyone.

Canals are artificial man made constructs that require constant human management, intervention, resources and upkeep to exist and remain functioning. The other does not and is a natural phenomenon. You're comparing apples and oranges.

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger , Are we seeing resumption of refueller flights currently?

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refuelers have been in the air throughout the ceasefire. Asset movement and all that stuff.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Trump backed down

but maintains his blockade

this status quo is not ideal for either side, but it seems the US found its answer to Iran closing the Strait

Classic Gambler!

He folded instead of showing the losing hand. Which means status quo for now... He knows he lost so he wants his audience to process it the way he wants...
The problem is, holding itself will become untenable... so he'd want to extract a price by going full pirates of Caribbean. In the end fold again with a pie in the face.

 

[Mujhe-Kyun-Tora]

Sink China ship or hendu ship?

Which one?

Bomb the terminal where ship is heading. .
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Talk when you have might/strength. The best iran could do is bomb oil fields in gulf and israel . Thats all !!
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After that there would be massacre in iran .
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Its better to negotiate and recover your strength and stocks to fight another day .

 

[Mujhe-Kyun-Tora]

Military infrastructure has collapsed?

You must be hallucinating. Last I remembered, they were still firing missiles at Israel even when the ceasefire was nearing

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From where?
Tunnels which will last till the stock available .
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Where would they produce more missiles? From where they get the raw material , steel , electronics etc?
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if China stops the supply do they have any military infrastructure left to support them in such war?
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Any major base which didn't gt hit?
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They have to park their commercial planes in other country .
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Bravery without a brain is fatal .

 

[Homajon]

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A ground war in Iran will look like this.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

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A ground war in Iran will look like this.

I have a different opinion. The ground war over Iran will be different due to different circumstances.

Here are major differences:
- Russia do not have air dominance over Ukraine as US can achieve before ground war.
- Ukraine / Russia also have serious advantage of a woodland terrain unlike Iran. So their drone operators can hide at millions of places in thick forests as both frontlines keep trying to forward.

The drones shown in this video are being controlled from frontlines. These cannot be controlled from longer ranges as they have very small endurance / range. In other words, both frontlines are facing each other with a narrow distance between them.

On other hand, US Army do not advance until their airforce has bombed every piece of barracks, equipment in their way. We have witnessed during fighter jet pilots rescue missions helicopters and tanker aircraft flying over Iran searching for their pilot. They definitely would have strike aircraft covering them at higher altitude to hit anything that tries to hit at those assets. US air power will remove adversery frontline commands before their own army advances. So not much chances of close quarter / quadcopter drone engagements.

However, Iran will definitely have its own way of striking US army positions with longer range munitions and drones. We are talking about striking from 100s of kilometers stand off ranges. US army will face lot of death toll. But war will be different from Russia/Ukraine.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Dominant nations typically avoid direct conflict unless compelled by necessity, instead relying on smaller states and non-state actors. For instance, Pakistan has engaged in such actions in Afghanistan and Kashmir; therefore, it is disingenuous to suggest that Iran should not have taken similar measures. The United States has carried out similar activities.

Exactly!

That was my point already. If Pakistan used a group in Afghanistan or Kashmir as a proxy then the purpose is already served (To keep war outside your border, attacking enemy while using other people as cannon fodders). We will not expect anything more from that group. For years, Hezbullah has kept israel busy and fought against it. For years Houthis have fought against KSA/uae. That was primary purpose of Iran to keep an indirect war against its enemies. They have done already enough for their funders. Even in this war not of their own they jumped but still some Iranians call them "useless" and disrespect them. No matter how much you fund a group, you can never own their lives and their children's lives that you expect them to die for you.

and yes states do such actions because every country looks for their own self interests at costs of others.

 

[Hayabusa]

From where?
Tunnels which will last till the stock available .

Israel was struggling to eliminate Hamas from Gaza, even when they were hiding in tunnels. Iran is 4516X bigger.

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Where would they produce more missiles? From where they get the raw material , steel , electronics etc?

You think planners don't think of all these including continuity of business during a war?

if China stops the supply do they have any military infrastructure left to support them in such war?
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Any major base which didn't gt hit?

Hypothetical. China hasn't stopped supplies.


Surprisingly major missile bases tunnels are being digged out signifying that it is operational.

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They have to park their commercial planes in other country .
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Bravery without a brain is fatal .

Yet they still have planes to escort ASIM Munir during his visit here. Brain fatal indeed.

Conclusion: Iran's military has been degraded. It has taken hits. But it is not down, and far from collapse.

 

[clutch]

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So finally they’re facing the same kind of pain iran felt for decades….

F the UAE... They are Zionist scum and have innocent Sudanese and Palestinian Gaza blood on their hands...

 

[Yasser76]

Spoofing here now?

 

[tsunset]

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[Ali_Baba]

Or we aim everything at ‘soft’ civilian areas in Tel Aviv and aim for ~5 such impacts per day within another month.

Aiming for civilian is militarily and strategically short sighted and I don't understand why Iran wastes missiles like that, when Israel has gone after Iran's "industrial heartlands" so heavily.

Iran needs to rethink its strategy, and impose a long lasting impact on the country on expensive things that hurt them long term.

Right now, Israel is not deterred because it does not care about civilian hits, and Iran has not been able to impose a significant cost on Israel.