US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

Overall, I agree with you that the US cannot free the stranded ships AND must also somehow ensure future transits are safe like before. I suspect the Chiefs already told Trump that. But I also suspect that Stump want to show that if the US can free up a few ships, for now, that will induce Iran to (re)negotiate the terms of surrender. I know that the word 'surrender' will trigger some temperaments -- do not care.

Will the Iranians allow the US to have easier terms for surrender? Strategically the USA has lost this war in the same way the USA won lots of military victories in Vietnam, but lost the war. The USA cannot find a way out of the quagmire it finds itself in, and we all saw Rubio beg for "things to be the same before the war started.."

Why would the Iranians allow the USA to have an easier time of it ?
 
Will the Iranians allow the US to have easier terms for surrender?

I think Iran should have Trump sign the Instrument of US Surrender on a little Iranian speedboat as drones fly all around, as the ultimate parody of the Japanese signing abroad the once-mighty USS Missouri that ended WW2.

If it can.

What say you?
 
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Mass Layoffs in Iran as Businesses Buckle Under Wartime Pressures​



In mid-March, Babak, a 49-year-old Iranian product designer at a tech company in Tehran, was called into his boss’s office and told that his position was being eliminated.

Iran’s government had shut down the internet two weeks earlier, at the outset of U.S.-Israeli war on the country, throwing the country’s tech industry into chaos and making Babak’s job impossible.

“Throughout my career, I have worked hard, continuously learned, and tried to grow,” said Babak, who sent voice messages to The New York Times, and asked to be identified only by his first name to avoid government reprisal. “Yet at this stage of my life, I find myself in an uncertain and ambiguous position,” he said.
Babak’s experience has become increasingly common throughout Iran as companies have instituted round after round of layoffs in recent weeks, according to interviews with businesses and employees and Iranian news reports.
For the Trump administration, Iran’s severe economic struggles are part of a strategy to pressure the country into submission. “I hope it fails,” President Trump told reporters this month, of Iran’s economy. “You know why? Because I want to win.”

Iranian officials insist that pressure will not work and that the country will not surrender.

Many of those companies are buckling under wartime pressures. During the war, the U.S. and Israel hit Iranian industrial sites that produce key raw materials, as well as key infrastructure. And a U.S.-imposed blockade on Iran’s ports, in place since a cease-fire last month, has cut off much of its oil exports and disrupted imports of other goods.

An Iranian government official, Gholamhossein Mohammadi, estimated that the war has caused the loss of one million jobs, “and the direct and indirect unemployment of two million people,” in comments reported by the news outlet Tasnim.

On April 25, an Iranian job search platform reported a record 318,000 resumes submitted in a single day, a figure that was 50 percent higher than the previous record, according to the news site Asr Iran.
Even before the war, Iran’s economy had been struggling from years of sanctions, entrenched corruption and mismanagement, while a spiraling currency has eroded Iranians’ purchasing power.
“A strange and overwhelming vortex of economic problems has emerged, and it continues to grow more complex,” Amir Hossein Khaleghi, an economist in Isfahan, said in an interview. Before the war, Iran was “already in a very poor economic situation, facing a set of mega-crises,” he said.

The private sector’s latest struggles portend a deepening crisis for Iran’s government. Its proposed budget for the year, put forward before the war, already represented a sharp reduction in public spending when factored for inflation, and depended more on taxation than in the past. Now, tax revenues from the private sector are likely to drop significantly.

Economic discontent has ignited repeated protests in Iran over the past decade, including nationwide demonstrations that began in December as the currency collapsed. Although those protests were suppressed through a deadly crackdown that killed thousands, the anger fueling them has remained unresolved.
In a statement to mark a national day in Iran that honors workers and teachers, the supreme leader, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei, urgedcompanies to avoid layoffs “to the extent possible.” Many of those companies are facing deep crises that are a direct result of actions by Mr. Khamenei’s government.

For instance, Iran’s digital sector, once a symbol of the country’s potential, has been brought to its knees by a severe, government-imposed internet shutdown.

The head of an Iranian tech industry lobbying group estimated the internet shutdown is costing Iran up to $80 million a day in direct and indirect losses.

Digikala, known as the Amazon of Iran and the country’s leading tech company, has cut 200 employees, about three percent of its work force, with recent instability among the causes, said the company’s chief executive, Masoud Tabatabaei.
And last month, the founder of Kamva, an Iranian e-commerce company, announced the firm would be closing entirely.

“After two wars and months of internet shutdown, we could no longer bypass the crisis,” the founder, Hadi Farnoud, said in a statement on his X account. “This time, it was impossible to continue.”

In the industrial sector, the immediate cause of many of the layoffs is a shortage of raw materials. Major petrochemical and steel plants were targeted during the U.S.-Israeli strikes on the country, cutting off supplies to related industries. And imports have also been disrupted by the U.S. blockade of Iran’s ports.

A textile factory in western Iran has laid off 700 of its 800 workers, according to the Iranian Labor News Agency, a semiofficial outlet, which also reported another factory in the country’s north shedding 500.

Even manufacturers that have not announced formal layoffs are effectively frozen, staying open in name only but producing little output, labor leaders say.
“In practice, some of these units do not have real production and only work semi-actively or intermittently to maintain their existence,” saidBahram Zonoubi Tabar, head of a local labor council in Iran’s Fars province, in an interview with the news agency.

Mehdi Bostanchi, head of the country’s Coordination Council of Industries, a body that liaises between companies and the government, said Iran’s industrial sector was going through a contraction that would affect as many as 3.5 million workers.
“In this situation, unlike classic periods of recession, the decline in employment is less visible in official statistics and instead manifests through nonrenewal of contracts, reduced working hours, and forced leave,” Mr. Bostanchi said in a written response to questions from The New York Times.

At times, the government’s efforts to address the economic crisis have added to the pressure on businesses. In March, the government announced a 60 percent increase in Iran’s minimum wage, which was meant to keep wages in line with the country’s galloping inflation rate. Instead, it “created a shock to the economy,” said Nima Namdari, chief executive of Karnameh, an online car sales company.
“As a result, the wave of layoffs intensified,” Mr. Namdari said.

Babak, the product designer, has been laid off twice in the span of a year. His first layoff occurred just 10 days before Israel struck Iran in June 2025, and it took him months to find a new role, which was for less pay. It was hard to make ends meet, he said, but he and his wife managed. Then came the U.S.-Israeli war, the internet shutdown and his recent layoff.

He and his wife have sold their cars and jewelry to stay afloat in recent weeks. With nothing left to sell, he said, they are now relying on help from their families.

Babak said he still hasn’t been able to find another job. “It pains me to see how this situation has affected my wife’s spirit,” he added. “There are moments when we both struggle, but we are doing our best to hold on to hope.”

 
I think Iran should have Trump sign the Instrument of US Surrender on a little Iranian speedboat as drones fly all around, as the ultimate parody of the Japanese signing abroad the once-mighty USS Missouri that ended WW2.

If it can.

What say you?

I think it would be more appropriate for Trump to be paraded down Tehran's main street on a donkey naked with a loser hat as he is led to the signing ceremony of surrender.

It is more his level.
 
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I think it would be more appropriate for Trump to be paraded down Tehran's main street on a donkey, and naked with a loser hat as he is led to the signing ceremony of surrender.

It is more his level.

Interesting scenario, but can Iran pull it off?

Jes aksin' fer a fraand. :D
 
Looks like it will happen, are we not watching the same war ?

It is the same war, but obviously it is being seen from very different perspectives. It would be prudent to just wait for the eventual outcomes. It cannot be long now, one might think.
 
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I disagree. At the least, the US demonstrated military capabilities that so far have been confined to the testing regime. Couple of new examples are the ODIN and HELIOS defensive laser systems. The F-35 moved from being the butt of jokes to making jokes out of contested airspaces. The A-10 got another reprieve. Precision bombs got more precise.
Indeed. The A-10 mission will be extended through 2030 now at D-M.
 
Well, unless you are in charge of the MIC and you get a share of their profit, that's not the matter for you. I mean, how are you personally gaining from F-35 being used "brilliantly," and A-10 got reprieved?

I don't care about LM being able to sell more F-35 because of their performance in the Gulf, I don't care about Boeing being able to renew A-10 interest because of the strike. You want to know what I care about? Putting gas in my car, buying beef from Kroger, Dude, even he touted gas now $95 a barrel, and we are the number 1 oil exporter in the world, I don't see a single cent being paid to me. So, tell me what I get for Precision bomb being more precise?

I am not aware US had become North Korea, when it is good for the country, it has to be good for you, I had 5 relative lost their job in the last 4 months, and 14 lost their job since Jan 2026 (4 of them working in our factory in California), you may need to sell the F-35, A-10 and Paveway to them, not me. And the more this is going on, I don't just need to cut my workers in California, I would have to close the factory. And that's 70 people gone. You may need to sell it to them, not me; I don't live in the US anymore. I mean, that's just some sacrifice, wasn't it? telling them they lost their job because we don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons.......
Yeah we did stop Iran who was just weeks away from making the bomb for past 20-30 years, also yeah USAF already unmatched fighter jets get little bit more unmatched against a enemy that basically doesn't have a proper AF or BVR. But here on ground people are asking others for 20-40$'s just to make ends meet, Gas is around 4.60$ in Part of Tampa, inflation is high, even republicans are confused and outright mad at current Govt and their policies, but hey at least we get to see some "Precision Strikes" on Iran, tell that to those 180+ Minab Children.
Priorities are not in line for many Americans unfortunately, they just have to follow and say yes to whatever GoP says or does, criticism is basically no allowed.
 
It is the same war, but obviously it is being seen from very different perspectives. It would be prudent to just wait for the eventual outcomes. It cannot be long now, one might think.
here's some insight on the American perspective:

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