Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fatman17]

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[Meengla]

As of May 2026, the UK and France are leading a multinational, defensive naval mission to secure commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, not a direct invasion of Iran, following severe disruption to trade.

The Strait is a hornets nest. Iranians can fire not only from one of the 30 missile sites along the Strait but also from deep within Iran's land--and who knows from what beneat the surface. Americans know that this is a 'war of choice' launched by Trump, the war remains deeply unpopular, and thus Americans are not willing to accept many, if any, casualties. How would the Europeans leaders sell bodybags coming back to European shores for a war which has no direct NATO involvement and a war launched by another country? Say 10 or 20 French or German dead arrive to their respective countries in bodybags?
It seems like the Europeans are trying to do the 'bare minimum' to be on Trump's good side. Many countries are pleasing Trump and hoping he would direct his wrath to someone else. There are trade/commercial reasons to not ignore America even for rich countries in Europe and Asia.

 

[Meengla]

The munitions they expended cost more than this figure, then add deployment, logistics, loss of aircraft/infra.
True cost is likely double.

Double or not, the $29 billion as quoted during the Senate hearing where Lindsay Graham was grilling Hegseth and Gen. Caine yesterday also mentioned the cost to repair the damaged/destroyed American bases in the Middle East is not factored in yet and it was uncertain if the local countries would share the cost in rebuilding them.

 

[BHAN85]

9 minor earthquakes (magnitude 2.6 to 4.6) in about 8 hours in Pardis, near Tehran.

Two major fault lines pass through Pardis in the northeast of Tehran. It seems that they're now active. A major earthquake is more likely than before.

A natural earthquake could be a opportunity to conceal the test of a nuclear weapon.

 

[VCheng]

A natural earthquake could be a opportunity to conceal the test of a nuclear weapon.

No. The propagation of the seismic waves generated is according to different patterns.

 

[925boy]

Even analysts who are anti war are saying that, yes, standoffish missiles maybe in low quantities but no shortage of relatively dumb bombs dropped from heavy bombers. Dropping them in some Dresden style probably will not capitulate Iran but will kill a lot of innocent people. A lot! Plus of course destroying much infra and buildings. Iranians are negotiating to avoid that; the leadership is responsible to its citizens despite all the propaganda against it.

Those dumb bombs won't destroy the missile cities, so US and Israel will also be receiving painful bombsings from Iran while they attack Iran.

Also, US doesn't have enough bombs to bomb irans infrastructure effectively while retaining enough bombs in reserve for a potential China scrnario.

Finally, US doesn't have enough bombs to kill enough iranians- iranians- are ready anddefinant and US can't break their will, hence why US has stopped bombing and can't win the war.
Also, Russia and China will never standby while US finishes off Iran.

US has turned into a borderline dumb nation(especially strategically), look at its actions and their results. Stupidity has a cost.

 

[BHAN85]

No. The propagation of the seismic waves generated is according to different patterns.

If I were Iran, I had built underground test facilities next to major faults.

Natural earthquake has a first strong S wave, and then P weak waves.
Nuclear earthquake has a first strong P wave, and then S weak waves.

So a nuclear earthquake can be programmed to start when a S strong wave of natural earthquake is detected. So the P wave of nuclear earthquake it will be mix to P wave of natural earthquake.

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[VCheng]

If I were Iran, I had built underground test facilities next to major faults.

Natural earthquake has a first strong S wave, and then P weak waves.
Nuclear earthquake has a first strong P wave, and then S weak waves.

So a nuclear earthquake can be programmed to start when a S strong wave of natural earthquake is detected. So the P wave of nuclear earthquake it will be mix to P wave of natural earthquake.

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So you want to tie in scheduling a test with a prediction of when the next earthquake will occur, given their inherent unpredictability, just keep the detection by seismic waves to a minimum?

Okay, then, problem solved, I guess.



(The physics of the energy expansion and propagation are totally different and detectable.)

 

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That number almost certainly includes 24 MQ-9 drones

 

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The smartest investment Irans military ever did!

 

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